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Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:00 PM

Went to Home Depot this weekend to return an incorrectly purchased item.

While I was waiting as the next person in the return line, I could hear the female cashier say to the customer:
"As long as Obama is President, he's going to audit everyone's tax return".
Within 30 seconds, she yelled "NEXT".
I walk up to her register, and tell her "You're wrong about Obama."
She replied "In what way".
I said "Obama never mentioned in his campaign or debates that the IRS was going to audit everyone's tax return".
She then said "Well, he's going to take our guns as well."
I repeated "Obama never mentioned in his campaign or debates that the he was going after your guns".

I then finished the conversation by telling her
"You might want to listen to something other than Fox or Limbaugh. You might learn something."

I will not allow stupid people to make blanket statements without calling them on their facts.

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Reply Went to Home Depot this weekend to return an incorrectly purchased item. (Original post)
aggiesal Nov 2012 OP
Auntie Bush Nov 2012 #1
mainstreetonce Nov 2012 #2
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dchill Nov 2012 #40
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LiberalFighter Nov 2012 #33
freshwest Nov 2012 #41
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Tree-Hugger Nov 2012 #32
regnaD kciN Nov 2012 #35
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Wellstone ruled Nov 2012 #5
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renate Nov 2012 #55
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frylock Nov 2012 #39
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Populist_Prole Nov 2012 #18
Floyd_Gondolli Nov 2012 #67
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aggiesal Nov 2012 #50
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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:02 PM

1. Three cheers to you.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:03 PM

2. So sad

It is really sad that people believe this stuff and the store should teach employees to not discuss politics.

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Response to mainstreetonce (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:51 PM

38. My first thought. Never discuss politics even if the customer brings it up. nt

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Response to mainstreetonce (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 06:04 PM

40. ding ding ding!

Businesses don't want to alienate half (or even 47%) of their customers. Not good business at all.

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Response to mainstreetonce (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 06:25 PM

47. Like that's going to happen at Home Depot.

The Home Depot Man Who Wants to Demolish Obama | Mother Jones
www.motherjones.com/politics/.../ken-langone-home-depot...

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Response to mainstreetonce (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:51 AM

95. Yes, employees should not discuss politics with customers.

I was at a truck stop getting gas, and a truck driver was in front of me in line ranting on and on about Obama. The clerk just let him rant and didn't respond at all. When he left the counter, I couldn't help myself and put my thumb to my nose and gave a wave at his back. The clerk laughed and did the same thing, but she said that she will not get into any discussion with a customer. I told her that I didn't blame her. But I think it was funny that she showed her disgust with what he had said.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:07 PM

3. You rock. nt

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:08 PM

4. I went to Home Depot today

to return two hose bibs that weren't need on a job I was doing. I presented the receipt,
the hose bibs and the cashier asked me for a "government issued ID, like a drivers licence"

I balked and asked why, she told me it was new policy.So, to get my 12.00 back I had to show it.

I have been avoiding buying anything from there due to the way they treat their employees and that
just sealed the case.

Never did like that store very much anyway.

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Response to onethatcares (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:14 PM

7. I recall having to do that with a return there months ago.

It was for a larger item, though. I assumed it was a loss prevention measure. They wouldn't want people buying items and then stealing one of the same item to return it with the receipt. If the same person is constantly returning large ticket item, that could indicate theft. Doing it for $12 does seem a little silly.

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Response to Incitatus (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:40 PM

33. People in charge can be very stupid.

You would think people would know what the difference is between stupidity and common sense. A red flag should be raised or considered when an item reaches a general level in cost. If I was a merchant and a customer was buying items that were on expensive side with a credit card I would exercise more due diligence in making sure the cc wasn't stolen per the cc's agreement.

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Response to Incitatus (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 06:05 PM

41. When I last lived in a small town, I learned that addicts had been doing exactly that.

They look for dropped cash reciepts from customers outside stores or go through garbage, steal the item and then come back to return it for cash. The amount didn't matter, they did enough to get what they wanted from many reciepts. Stores said that was why they cahnged their policy to insist on giving credits to buy merchandise, because the addicts didn't want that, they only wanted cash. They are also involved in ID theft in both crude and sophisticated ways. The store doesn't know who is doing what, so they treated everyone the same.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #41)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 01:59 AM

79. That's why they sell the gift cards

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Response to Incitatus (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 08:35 PM

62. $12 is a lot of money to me....I live on a fixed income

so if I have to jump through a hoop to get my money back..I jump through the loop...

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Response to onethatcares (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:39 PM

32. This is going to be a trend

I just heard a report the other day that more retailers will be requiring ID when you want to return something. I completely forget the companies they mentioned, except for Children's Place (clothing store for kids). They said one of the reasons is to track people who are repeatedly returning items.

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Response to onethatcares (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:46 PM

35. So, Home Despot is going to audit everyone's government I.D.?



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Response to onethatcares (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 06:31 PM

49. They asked to register my military ID to get my 10% discount...

 

Told em to skip it... Odd...

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Response to onethatcares (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 06:52 PM

51. Let me assure you that Menards is just as bad politically.

John Menard is an asshole of long standing. A billionaire, he got busted for sneaking toxic ash from treated lumber home to put into his home trash cans to be disposed of illegally in the landfill.

True story, well-known in his home base of Eau Claire.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #51)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 08:31 PM

61. I definetly agree about Menard's

I live in New Mexico now but I am a native Minnesotan. When my husband died, Menards cheated me out of his bonus check even though he had completed all of the paper work for the bonus he was entilted to but he died unexpectedly before the bonus checks were passed out. I truly HATE Menards.

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Response to chillfactor (Reply #61)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 12:38 AM

74. me too. i used to be a contractor,

meynards made doing business very hard. my signficant other worked in outside sales for them and the jacked her badly. i'll drive 20 miiles out of my way not to shop at meynards

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Response to chillfactor (Reply #61)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 12:37 PM

106. This might make you feel a tiny bit better-I never lived in a state with a Menards

so never heard of them, but while researching an item I wanted to buy, I found they were the only store who carried just what I wanted. In fact I found they actually manufactured the item. I didn't buy it, however because the reviews for them as a seller were so unremittingly bad that I can't imagine anyone ignoring such reviews and actually buying from them on line. You can fool all of the people. . . just so long.

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Response to onethatcares (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 06:18 AM

85. People buy stuff, then come back and steal the same item and return it.

In San Juan, the "returns" section cannot be accessed from inside the store. You have to go in a separate door OUTSIDE the store--makes it harder to sneak something that will set off the door alarms out to go "return" it after stealing it.

I returned something in SJ to a Home Depot a year or so ago--I did not have to show an ID, but I purchased the item with a credit card, so that may have made the difference.

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Response to onethatcares (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 12:11 PM

102. Aside from those mentioned...


There are a number of species of refund fraud.

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Response to onethatcares (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 12:16 PM

103. I had to do the same thing and I was only returning a garden hose

And it was a faulty hose that had a big crack in it when I bought it from them. I had the receipt that showed I had just purchased the dang thing about 2 hours previous to returning it, and you could clearly see the weak spot in the hose (not noticeable in the original packaging), and all I wanted was my money back so I could go somewhere else and get a new one, but they still made me show an i.d.
I don't like them, and only shop there if I have absolutely no other options.

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Response to onethatcares (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 12:19 PM

104. Was ID required to make the purchase?

then it shouldn't be required to reverse the same.

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Response to onethatcares (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 12:25 PM

105. Whoa (pun intended). I first read that as "horse bib."

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:08 PM

5. What do you expect from

a Big Box Retailer who's CEO spent millions on a Obama hate video the week before the elections. Geez,this Company has some of the worst customer service out there. Home Depot=TeaBilliy Home Center.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:13 PM

6. That's why we go to Lowe's

 

They're not much better, but at least they know to shut up.

If Lowes open their mouth, it's bye bye Lowes, hello Ace Hardware.

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Response to Panasonic (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:03 PM

19. Ace Hardware is better because it's cooperative owned

Unlike a corporation, people who are part of a co-op actually OWN it, and make decisions about how it's run, and such. It's a totally different business model. The corporate model is dictatorial, and the cooperative model is democratic, and some might even say a bit socialist, only because co-ops aim for a consensus when making decisions.
Co-ops are much fairer to the consumer, and the employee/owner. I am quite surprised that they have not caught on in our great democracy more.

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Response to RoccoR5955 (Reply #19)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 06:27 PM

48. I actually like Ace's near my house..

 

Problem is we don't have credit with them, so it's either HD or Lowe's until my credit rating improves.

Then once it improves, I'm going to close both of those accounts and open Ace's credit.

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Response to RoccoR5955 (Reply #19)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 07:20 PM

55. interesting!

I love going to our local Ace. The people there are super helpful and friendly (although I'll admit that I've gotten very good advice when I've had to go to Home Depot, too). It's a zillionth the size of Home Depot but they have EVERYTHING.

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Response to Panasonic (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:37 PM

30. Lowe's

They pulled their advertising from a Muslim reality show that aired on TLC after being pressured from right wing groups.

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Response to Tree-Hugger (Reply #30)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:50 PM

37. yeah, but it's one of those things where how they treat employees is more important

than where they advertise.

lowes is republican also but they aren't as bad as home depot. i think home depot use to be better but they seemed to have gone down. at least from what i remember when i was younger.

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Response to Panasonic (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 06:00 PM

39. i always start at the local ace and go to lowe's if they don't have what i need

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Response to Panasonic (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 08:09 AM

91. Don't have a link, but I understand that

Lowe's is Mormon owned.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:56 PM

18. Home Depot is a right wing scumbag company anyway

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:26 PM

67. You're half right

 

The person you are talking about is the co founder. The other co founder is Arthur Blank who also owns the Atlanta Falcons. He's also a big donor to Democrats.

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Response to Floyd_Gondolli (Reply #67)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 02:47 PM

113. Same with Whole Foods.

One is an anti-union libertarian type and the other is a liberal Democrat.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:15 PM

8. Thank you, aggiesal, for speaking out against the brainwashing

going on in our country, from fox, limbaugh, etc, etc etc!

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Response to Cha (Reply #8)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 06:49 PM

50. You're welcome.

I will continue to do this whenever I hear anyone bad mouthing
that good Irish boy O'Bama

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:15 PM

9. The more I listen to beck ...

in my evening drive-time commute, I'm finding that the most wrong-headed talking points are not from fox (that at times pretends to be a news outlet, tied to facts - twisted as they may be) or rush (as he rarely makes specific, and therefore, verifiable statements); rather what we are hearing comes straight from the mouth of beck.

That said ... beck does a segment where he takes callers and asks them 4 questions, like: "Complete this phrase: 'Life, Liberty and the pursuit of ... what?'" From my observation, approximately 60% of his listener get it wrong. Or, my favorite (for the responses): "Define Socialism." I have yet to hear any of his listeners come close to the actual definition.

I am becoming more and more convinced that beck listeners are, happily, ignorant and therefore, largely unreachable.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:18 PM

22. Happily ignorant is the key

The less they think, the better they feel. Upset their apple cart by dissecting their views logically, and they become indignant like an angry sullen drunk.

Recently during a conversation with my rightward turning friend, he began spouting ignorant talking points bashing Obama about the economy, raising his taxes, trying to cut social security and medicare blah blah; Not just half truths, but blatant falsehoods. Despite my irritation, I kept my cool and corrected him in a tactful way. ( He knows I'm much much more well read than he is ) I would think he'd be relieved to hear such things but he got really angry and defensive and almost spitted as he snarled "We'll he's gonna take your guns away, you just watch!". Like the clerk in the OP, the gun thing is their last refuge when they know they're wrong.

Interesting post script: This same person recently told me he was angry with his high school age son because his son says he's a bigot ( and he is ) and he snarled, "he's just a kid, he don't know dick about the world". I dryly asked him that would he be of the mindset that if his son was more worldly he would dislike black people as much as his father? We're drifting apart anyway, so I figured why just bottle it all up inside?

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Response to Populist_Prole (Reply #22)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 01:04 AM

75. Hmm, around here they have "belligerent ignorance". I don't know and you can't make me know.

I don't know anything and you can't make me know anything. So there. you over-educated, over-informed, smart person.

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Response to SharonAnn (Reply #75)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 04:30 AM

84. That's pretty much it

They'd rather drown with a good feeling than swim with an uncomfortable one.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:23 PM

24. I agree that the listeners are ignorant

but I can tell without a doubt that there's as many that are devotees of FOX as anybody. IF you bother to try and correct some of these blithering dolts, they aren't gonna run to the computer to fact check you - they just conclude you're too stupid to tune to FOX.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:20 PM

10. Home Depot's founder was in an anti-Obama Super PAC ad.

Home Depot is dead to us.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:30 PM

11. bravo or bravisima

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:33 PM

12. I'd have told her that Obama was also going to force women to have abortions ...

performed by Gay OBGYNs from France.

After he takes the guns, obviously.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #12)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 07:58 PM

59. I like the way you think!

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:41 PM

13. Why confront someone like that?

You cannot change their mind. What's the point? If someone actually believes that "Obama" is going to have the army go door to door to take their guns they obviously have no grasp of reality.
The only thing that can convince a person like that is TIME. And even that doesn't always work..

When Obama was elected in 08' a friend of mine ran out and maxed out his credit cards on guns and ammo because Obama was going to "make it illegal to sell guns". When this election started he brought up the whole gun thing again, when I mentioned he was still paying for the guns he bought 4 years ago and the fact that Obama didn't ban any sales or come and take his guns his reply was, "yeah but this time he doesn't need to get re-elected".

You cannot win.

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Response to SomethingFishy (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 06:25 PM

46. Because even if the chances are low, they are not zero. (nt)

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #46)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 07:41 PM

56. With a person like this..

Who actually believes that Obama's army is coming door to door to take your guns the chance is not "low" it's not existent. Even worse if you actually convince them that no one is coming to get their guns they will tell you that Republicans saved them in some back door deal. (Yeah I have heard this one a couple times).. There is no way to convince these people of anything other than "President Blackenstein is destroying America". This isn't just about political ideology, it's also about race.

Here's the thing, another DU'er posted today about getting their tire slashed by a panhandler who was ranting about Obama. And this person did nothing but tell them they had no change to spare, he wasn't inviting a confrontation.

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Response to SomethingFishy (Reply #56)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 07:54 PM

58. You're welcome to throw away 47% of the country.

I don't think it's a good idea to casually toss people aside.

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #58)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:24 PM

66. You think 47% of the country thinks Obama is going to take their guns?

Obviously we are talking about 2 different kinds of people here. Not everyone who voted for Romney is a fucking looney but hey if thats what you think then be my guest and confront the girl working the counter at Home Depot.

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Response to SomethingFishy (Reply #66)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:40 PM

70. While guns may not be their specific issue, they had some crazy issue.

And according to you, it's not worth bothering increasing the size of our coalition. So we get to have relatively close elections from here on out. Great plan.

Obviously we are talking about 2 different kinds of people here. Not everyone who voted for Romney is a fucking looney

I've yet to be provided with an example otherwise.

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Response to SomethingFishy (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:00 PM

64. Says who?

Because you can't change their mind in that instant does not mean it's not worth it. If people called her on the BS every time she said it, she's start to realize it's BS.

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Response to treestar (Reply #64)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:33 PM

69. That has not been my experience at all...

Matter of fact it's been my experience that when you back them into a corner with facts they double down on the lunacy.

Funny, but since the election I have yet to see one far right lunatic actually admit that it's their policies that lost the election.

Rep Peter King actually said the Republicans have a MANDATE since they didn't lose the house.

I have seen Grover Norquist claim that they lost because Obama said Romney was a "poopyhead".

I have seen pundits and tea baggers claim that if they want to win more elections they need to move further to the right.

I saw this, said today by Ruben Navarrette a conservative latino columnist:

"When the media talk about the imminent arrival of comprehensive-immigration reform, this is what is generally assumed: Supposedly, the tuneup to our immigration system that President George W. Bush first talked about at the White House with Mexican President Vicente Fox in September 2001 is a done deal. We’re told: Democrats want it, and Republicans need it.

The assessment is half right. The Republicans need it. But the Democrats don’t really want it. They’ve never really wanted it. They only say they want it to trick Latinos and immigration-reform advocates into voting for them again and again.

Which is why reform probably won’t happen. We’ll have a debate but no solution will emerge from it.

So why don’t Democrats want comprehensive-immigration reform? For the same five reasons that Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid teamed up in 2006 and 2007 with the nativist wing of the Republican Party to kill bipartisan bills and, in 2010, helped scuttle the DREAM Act — a mini-legalization program for college students and military."

Yes according to this nutcase Harry Reid killed immigration reform (while claiming to be for it so he could trick the latino voters) while the poor poor powerless Republicans couldn't do anything about it.

Go ahead, convince him of "reality".

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Response to SomethingFishy (Reply #13)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 12:01 AM

72. Sometimes you can. Take the chance. Do not let a lie stand.

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Response to The Wielding Truth (Reply #72)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 01:59 AM

78. Yep, we must wield the truth. Never being challenged on those lies definitely

does add to the CONdfidence those who spew those lies have in them and in their ignorance-based opinions.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #78)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 02:01 PM

112. Thanks for incorporating my user name. We have a strong weapon against deceit. We must use it.

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Response to SomethingFishy (Reply #13)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 04:20 AM

83. Because there are other people in line

Maybe one of them hears that its not just USA VS Obama. Probably she doesn't follow the topic of the conversation at all, but she hears that there are two sides to the discussion, both held by people she has seen as a part of everyday life.

And maybe the clerk learns its not appropriate to start that conversation with customers, and is ever so slightly much less likely to spread the lie at work tomorrow.

And because there is no reason to shrink from confronting a lie. Why let it go unchallenged? What does that benefit anyone?

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Response to SomethingFishy (Reply #13)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 10:59 AM

99. Because in saying what s/he said, the cashier, INVITED others to speak too. If that's not

true, then, the cashier must have spoken out of a PRIVILEGE for him/herself to speak alone and no one else to speak. There is no such privilege. A right is not a right unless it applies to everyone. If the employees of Home Depot have privileges that the rest of us don't have, perhaps they should publish that fact so we can make appropriate shopping decisions accordingly.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:43 PM

14. I wonder if the gun manufacturers and sellers

started this year's version of the "He's gonna take your guns!!1!1" story. They made a fortune off these suckers after the 2008 election because they all thought that (and how stupid do you have to be anyway, to run out and spend a bunch of money on guns if you really believe they're just going to be confiscated soon?). They would know the same damn fools would fall for it again even though the President hasn't made a single move to take anyone's guns from them.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:48 PM

15. Regardless of the CEO's politics, few retailers would look kindly

on their employees spouting political beliefs in front of customers. She's probably going to get in trouble doing that, if she hasn't already. Actually, that goes for any business where there is extensive client conact.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:51 PM

16. k&r

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:56 PM

17. I had one tell me that Obama made a deal with all of the automakers to stop making car parts on all

vehicles 2005 or older. I asked them where they heard it. They told me someone told it to them. I told them before you believe everything you hear you need to do your research.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:06 PM

20. But think of all the jobs

that would be created if every single person's tax return were audited?

I bet the unemployment rate would drop to 3%.

Really, people never think through idiocy like this. I cannot actually make a sensible estimate of the number of new IRS employees that would be needed to audit everyone's tax returns, but the IRS would have to hire an awful lot of people.

Same with actually taking away everyone's guns. Now, I'm one of those who thinks we need to have much stricter gun laws, but to go out and take away all the guns? In some kind of fantasy world everyone would cheerfully turn in their guns -- wait! That's an excellent conspiracy idea -- they'll put something into the water that will make everyone want to turn in their guns. Yeah, that's it! Now why didn't we realize that before?

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:08 PM

21. Good job, but why shop in an anti-Obama store in the first place?




Home Depot Founder Virulently Anti-Obama – Could Race Be To Blame?
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03/15/home-depot-founder-virulently-anti-obama-could-race-be-to-blame/

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:19 PM

23. Good for you...I also am with fed up with these stupid comments and

always call people on their BS.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:27 PM

25. I want stores like that to ask for IDs.

I was a victim of identity theft a couple of years ago. The person opened up a Lowe's card on line and picked up their items later on in the day and got away with it because I don't think that Lowe's adequately checked out their ID. I had no idea that it happened until I got the bill.

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Response to avebury (Reply #25)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:30 PM

26. Stores get enough of my personal information as is without demanding ID. (nt)

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Response to Posteritatis (Reply #26)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 06:13 PM

43. You may find that you change your mind the day you end

up dealing with identity theft. It was a pain in the ass for months, even impacting me with Telecheck. I ended up even changing my driver license's number (which ended up helping me with Telecheck) since I could prove 100% that I didn't have that driver license number on the day the identity thief wrote a fraudulent check in my name.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:33 PM

27. I would suggest

you email the HD corporate office. Explain the situation and that you found the cashier's comments objectionable. I would indicate that you intend to move your business to other Retailers. HD may be run by a Right Wing leaning whatever, but that said you are still the customer and you have a right to shop in peace in their store. If they choose to not provide you with the atmosphere you desire, you can go elsewhere and vote with your dollars. There is absolutely no reason that you as a customer need to be subjected to the political or other opinions of their employees. The cashier should be pleasant, competent and efficient any opinions should be kept to themselves.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:33 PM

28. I'd like to buy you a drink!

Good work!

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:34 PM

29. I hate going into a business and get confronted with hate

She is doing the service desk at Home Depot for the same reason the person at Walmart is working there and getting the same treatment. Yet she is not smart enough to realize the reason she is there is partially because of the people who she supports politically.

There is no excuse for ignorance!

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:37 PM

31. Good work. They must be informed that there are REAL alternatives to faux.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:41 PM

34. Receipt theft

Very common among drug-users! Fish around in the trash for a receipt someone has thrown away, go into the store, find the identical item, then "return" it for cash. My neighbor the LAPD cop and another attorney friend tell me the tales. When I'm asked for ID if using a credit card, I always say, "Thank you." But agree about not shopping at Home Depot or any other big box store...especially Walmart.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:48 PM

36. Yet she's paid minimum wage or barely more and she's happy about that?

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Response to NICO9000 (Reply #36)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 06:09 PM

42. Puzzles me too to see their inability to make that connection

I have a friend who is certifiably poor and works long hours at a shitty job. What's bizarre to me is that he has an extraordinarily parochial pro-business and anti-labor view though. Not just a "fellow traveler" but a categoric supporter of the 1 percent.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 06:23 PM

44. Costco Salesman says I can trust him because he's "christian"

When we moved to Oregon we were looking for a TV. Went to Costco where a nice man in the TV department spent time with us. Finally he told us that we can trust him because he is "christian". We just about flipped out. We immediately went to the General Manager and told him that he had people evangelizing on the corporate sales floor and we were offended by his comment. We asked him if we could trust a man in the jewelry department because he was Jewish. Or how about a Muslim selling carpets.

He was quite irritated in hearing this and assured us that this is not Costco policy and that he will schedule an all employees meeting the next day before opening to review their corporate policy against this sort of religious promotion.

The guy didn't lost his job but I bet he never said that again to any customers.

I recommend to all that when they hear politics or religion spoken by employees of any corporation while at work, that you take it directly to the highest level in that organization and put your foot down so that can put their foot of that employees ass.

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Response to zwyziec (Reply #44)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 06:55 PM

53. A Jew selling jewelry or a Muslim selling carpets---stereotypes.Good grief !

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Response to virgogal (Reply #53)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 06:28 AM

86. Well, since so many Xtian religions are on TV--they've got the "televangical" market, after all--

I suppose a "christian" selling televisions is equally stereotypical...in a postmodern sort of way...?

Getchyer "Hour of Power" right here~! "700 Club for EVERYone!!"

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 06:25 PM

45. And, you think she is going to believe you?

No offense, but she seems to want to believe the worst about the President. These things weren't even up for discussion during the campaign.

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Response to wisteria (Reply #45)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 08:15 PM

60. It doesn't Matter if she believes

I have these kinds of confrontations frequently. I know I am not changing the minds of anyone who is rabidly anti-Obama. What it does accomplish is:
1) making them hesitate before spouting off in public the next time, &
2) gives courage to other people in earshot who are more timid than I am about expressing viewpoints.

I don't think letting things like this go unchallenged does anything to move us forward.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 06:52 PM

52. We haven't shopped at Home Depot since....

K&R

...their CEO came out against Obama before POs first election. I remember it well, as we had recently purchased a generator from there as we had a power outage the winter before. Haven't shopped there since. Isn't it against the law to ask for people's ID? I seem to remember being told by consumer groups to never give out that kind of info. Maybe it just referred to old folks who are scammed by phone?
Ace is the place....

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 07:04 PM

54. "I don't watch FOX!", she said defensively. At least that's the usual response. That one always

makes me laugh. Okay, may be it's Newsmax or any one of the hate radio perverts she gets her information from. You can always tell when you've got a live one. My girlfriend is kind of a radical libertarian. She's told me on a number of occasions, "you have more conservative views than you think." I come back and ask her just how she thinks that happens? It's because I pay attention to numerous news sources, not just my favorite left-wing programs. Plus, I'm a working guy and can go along with actual legitimate small business type conservative views.

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Response to brewens (Reply #54)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 01:55 PM

111. I'm of the opinion

that many of these people get their political information and orders from their pastors.

They are low-information people who don't even likely listen to political pap or TV or radio.
They just get preached to on Sundays, Weds., and perhaps a few more days.

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Response to No Vested Interest (Reply #111)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:37 PM

119. I have a FOX "News" fan friend who uses the term "low information voter" to describe us.

Of course the studies That show FOX viewers to be the most uninformed are just more librul lies to him. You're right about some of the evangelicals, and there are also those that only listen to family members that dominate them. We have no way to get through to those people.

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Response to brewens (Reply #119)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:44 AM

120. That's called projection. It's quite common in right wing circles. nt

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 07:44 PM

57. I'll never understand why things like that don't happen to me... n/t

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #57)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 06:33 AM

87. Me either. I have a couple of GOP neighbors who say the odd dumb thing,

but I've yet to run into a working person who was that obtuse.

I do have an old school chum who is what most would regard as "middle class" who has overdosed on the koolaid, but I think that's down to being a resident of TX, in Tom Delay's former district, for the last three or four decades.

Brain rot owing to incessant propaganda, I'm thinking...

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #57)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 06:38 AM

88. ;-)

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #57)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 08:21 AM

92. Not even once.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:51 PM

63. When ever I hear foolish comments

like the ones mentioned here I ask if they've ever tried any of the wonderful Fleet products.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:06 PM

65. This breaks my heart...a very dear woman quotes all the stuff she watches on TV

And I have to very gently prod her to go check her facts

I love her dearly

But I can't take it...

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:30 PM

68. To be fair

 

I never heard him say that everyone's tax returns would be audited, but he most certainly did say that he supported an "assault weapon" ban, which is most certainly going after guns.

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Response to TrueBlueinCO (Reply #68)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 02:06 AM

80. Well, good.

I hope he goes after guns.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #80)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 12:10 PM

101. That's all well and good

 

but you were wrong when you told that woman that he never said he would go after guns.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:56 PM

71. Silly check-out lady

Do these "Obama is Comin' Fer Yer Guns" jackasses realize that under Bush one could not bring a firearm into a national park, but since Obama's been in, you CAN?? They all got suckered by the NRA into buying a bunch of ammo and guns they didn't need when in fact, if the big bad Gov DOES want to pry your guns from your cold dead hands, they will do EXACTLY that!

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Response to markmac (Reply #71)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 12:02 AM

73. Welcome to DU!

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Response to markmac (Reply #71)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 05:35 PM

115. When I have time to think, I usually give them this little known fact . . .

If you think Obama is coming after your guns, tell me who is the only
president to actually take guns from you in the past 100 years?

It was George W. Idiot
He had Homeland Security hire Blackwater to patrol the streets of New Orleans
after Hurricane Katrina. Whenever they came across a citizen with any weapons
(including GUNS), the Blackwater personnel representing the government would
confiscate the weapons.

Why didn't we hear from these RW nuts jobs back then, when the village idiot
was in charge?

Because it's a racial thing!!!

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 01:30 AM

76. "Obama'll steal yer guns!!" You mean like he did after his FIRST election?

What a stupid canard. They said that when he got elected the FIRST time, and they still have their guns now.

Stupid. Stupid. Rightwingers.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 01:42 AM

77. I've never run into a verbal situation such as this,

but I've walked out of a local chain store when the sales person presented his company card with a christian "fish" on it. I called management and told them that I was offended that the company was using religious symbolism as a sales tool. I then went to a locally-owned independent store and bought my new stove there. I also avoid businesses with the "fish" in the window.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 02:19 AM

81. incorrectly purchased item?

I'm going to use this the next time I buy the wrong thing.

"I want to return this box of hostess cup cakes; they were incorrectly purchased"
Thank you for this.

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Response to sigmasix (Reply #81)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 06:41 AM

89. The commercial transaction was in error.

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Response to sigmasix (Reply #81)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 06:33 PM

116. Actually, I purchased the wrong drill bit, . . .

but I didn't realize it until I got home.

When I returned it, is when all the fun began.

If I had incorrectly purchased a box of hostess cup cakes, I'd
find a way to eat them, and not return them at all!!!

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 02:51 AM

82. What is it with cashiers spreading stupid rumors about President Obama?

I just had a run-in with one in the grocery store.

Good for you for correcting her. We all need to do that.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 07:12 AM

90. Is this a Home Depot policy?

Should alert the manager. Politics is bad for business because you alienate
about half the customers.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:02 AM

93. If you think that Home Despot is bad...


Walk into a Harbor Freight store and see what happens. It seems like about 90% of the folks shopping there are rejects from some new cable program like "I am a Tea Party guy and don't give a shit". They seem to be really vociferous when there more of them. So they buy tools from China then try to bring them back when they don't perform like U S tools.

Up here in Placer County Ca, most of the progressives go to Home Depot or Loews enjoy the banter of the wing-nuts, either customer or staff and go back home to work on our homes.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:15 AM

94. Pharmacist lied about Obamacare...

When a friend on the insurance program for military retirees was shocked to pay a huge amount for a prescription, he was told "You can thank Obamacare". Friend strongly dislikes Obama and had something new to grumble about.

Suggested he look it up. Turns out Tricare is not affected by the ACA. Turned out the pharmacist made a mistake and my friend got some money back.

He'll still grumble, but reality has a tiny foothold...




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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:59 AM

96. The Problem is

that many on the right have been indoctrinated into a republican induced coma of ignorance. The right wing has had years of mis-information to feed to their sheep. They have went too far in made up land that now there is a problem with getting people back to reality in the USA. Now when they want their people to get along they can't. they have had years of lies to wipe out of their brains. And if you have centered everything you know on falsehoods, then how are you to make a sound rational judgment when in your irrational world being reasonable doesn't exist. For years the right wing has been feeding into the fears of innocent Americans. Americans who have been no further than their community church. Americans who when they have the friendly barbecue the only people that are there look like them. They don't have any friends who are of another cultural background. they rely on Faux,Beck,Hannity, O'Reily to give them the world views. Instead of learning the world for themselves.

Correcting someone about being mis-informed, is cool with me. I always ask questions like where did you get your information from. this is usually after I find out their profession. Had a teacher once in the doctor's office talking about killing grandma and death panels back during the health care debates. I laughed in her face when she told me she was a teacher. She got red and tried to cop an attitude because she couldn't see anything funny. When she asked what was so funny, I asked her another question. Did you fact check? she said no she heard it on the news. I asked did you fact check them? I just kept laughing. Then I told her that it was the funniest thing that she was an educator. An educator who obviously doesn't take her own advice she probably gives to students about researching information for reports and classroom presentations. I continued laughing and said "Girl you crack me up! Killing Grandma, death Panels, Funniest shit I ever heard." Left out the office bellowing laughter and holding my stomach. And kept repeating what she said. and kept it up until the elevator doors closed.

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Response to mstinamotorcity2 (Reply #96)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 06:50 PM

117. Love your mis-informed teacher story . . .

Left her with a genuine sense of insecurity.

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #117)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:07 PM

121. Why would I give her the

satisfaction of knowing where she got her information from. I knew it was Faux News. I knew it was better for her to think that I thought she was joking than to tell Ms. Educator she wasn't so educated. Funny we as americans have some of the most ignorant people that have been chosen as leaders. From ridiculous Presidents to teachers. Just promise me one thing, If I ever suddenly cross over to Right wing Imagination Land, SLAP ME!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 10:08 AM

97. I think I would have

placed all my items on her counter and said "you know what, since Obama is going to audit my tax returns, I better get home and check them before he does. Here, you can put all of these items back." I would have then found the nearest manager and told them that their employee warned me about Obama and my tax return, and could he/she point me to the nearest Lowes/Ace Hardware.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 10:52 AM

98. Yay! Courage! & In the face of something that really suppresses most people: public social settings.

Also faith & hope that one more "small" rational voice matters.

THANK! you, most sincerely, aggiesal. You made a good start to my day!

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 12:09 PM

100. These sorts of people don't

accept facts that confront their view of reality.

Though I applaud your efforts, I think I would have requested that a manager come to the check-out. Then, in dumb clerk's presence, I would have alerted on her behavior, saying that the election proved that there is intelligent majority in the nation -- perhaps cowed and silent in some areas (red states) -- and because of her rude interjection of ignorance and hate into my transaction, I would be taking my MONEY elsewhere.

I would then have left the store and all the intended purchases cluttering the counter!

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 01:02 PM

107. May want to remind these people he's been President for four years already and

hasn't done anything to audit more tax returns or take away people guns.

That would be the reality though, and they don't do so good with reality.

What really get's me worked up about their kind of thinking and world view is the lack of any, I mean ANY critical thought. Politicians are people just like everyone else. If they don't have anything to gain from doing something, you know what? They probably aren't going to do it. They kind of have plenty of other things to do.

There are no shortage of examples of B*sh not doing things for the same reason. It's how the system works. If they want to actually talk about real issues this country would do so much better. But instead they are stuck on fairy tales and non-truths.

*sigh*

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 01:22 PM

108. Well, at the risk of being called a tinfoiler birther troofer

 

Paubot (LOL--now THAT'S a mouthful!), let me 'splain something to you: according to infowars (yeah, it's Alex Jones, but he links legit news articles with this stuff), the Social Security Admin. and other agencies have ordered hundreds of thousands of HOLLOW BULLETS. There are other indications that the government is preparing for civil unrest.

So before you look down on others with a smug glance, keep that mind of yours open. 2012 ain't done with us yet. A psychic predicted a major Left Coast earthquake in the near future. Who knows how long the Internets will be up? All the iZombies will totally, like, freak if they can't glue their eyes to those tiny screens 24/7...

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Response to i am thee modren man (Reply #108)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 07:14 PM

118. Here's the problem with your conspiracy theory . . .

Did you read the linked articles?

What people like Alex Jones like to do, is take some fact with a modicum of truth
and then paint everything with that. And since society is too lazy to fact check
anything he writes, we just take it as gospel truth.

So, in these linked articles, when were the Hollow Bullets purchased?
Where they purchased 50 years ago, or last week.
I'm sure you've heard of the concentration camps that have been erected
all over the US. These were built to house all those civil unruly citizens, yet
these were built over a decade ago, when GW Idiot was in charge. And
they're still standing empty.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 01:40 PM

110. The poor woman

must be in such distress at the thought! If only they bothered to be informed.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:35 PM

114. Nipping idiocy in the bud.

Thank you!

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