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A list by Country Start Date of Universal Health Care System Type

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This smacks the claim down we are being led like Europe
List of Countries with Universal Health Care
April 18, 2012 By admin Leave a Comment
Thirty-two of the thirty-three developed nations have universal health care, with the United States being the lone exception . The following list, compiled from WHO sources where possible, shows the start date and type of system used to implement universal health care in each developed country . Note that universal health care does not imply government-only health care, as many countries implementing a universal health care plan continue to have both public and private insurance and medical providers.

Country Start Date of Universal Health Care System Type

Norway - 1912 Single Payer
New Zealand 1938 Two Tier
Japan 1938 Single Payer
Germany 1941 Insurance Mandate
Belgium 1945 Insurance Mandate
United Kingdom 1948 Single Payer
Kuwait 1950 Single Payer
Sweden 1955 Single Payer
Bahrain 1957 Single Payer
Brunei 1958 Single Payer
Canada 1966 Single Payer
Netherlands 1966 Two-Tier
Austria 1967 Insurance Mandate
United Arab Emirates 1971 Single Payer
Finland 1972 Single Payer
Slovenia 1972 Single Payer
Denmark 1973 Two-Tier
Luxembourg 1973 Insurance Mandate
France 1974 Two-Tier
Australia 1975 Two Tier
Ireland 1977 Two-Tier
Italy 1978 Single Payer
Portugal 1979 Single Payer
Cyprus 1980 Single Payer
Greece 1983 Insurance Mandate
Spain 1986 Single Payer
South Korea 1988 Insurance Mandate
Iceland 1990 Single Payer
Hong Kong 1993 Two-Tier
Singapore 1993 Two-Tier
Switzerland 1994 Insurance Mandate
Israel 1995 Two-Tier
Taiwan - 1995 - Single Payer
United States 2014 Insurance Mandate

http://blog.livenewschat.tv/2012/03/31/list-of-countries-with-universal-healthcare/

We need to get to single payer....look at our date! So late in the game. So many got rich along the way.

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Reply A list by Country Start Date of Universal Health Care System Type (Original post)
SugarShack Nov 2012 OP
SugarShack Nov 2012 #1
yardwork Nov 2012 #2
SugarShack Nov 2012 #3
SugarShack Nov 2012 #4
haikugal Nov 2012 #5
SugarShack Nov 2012 #7
subterranean Nov 2012 #6
SugarShack Nov 2012 #8
enlightenment Nov 2012 #11
eridani Nov 2012 #14
Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #28
Comrade Grumpy Nov 2012 #9
midnight Nov 2012 #10
Scuba Nov 2012 #12
nxylas Nov 2012 #13
valerief Nov 2012 #15
yardwork Nov 2012 #16
leftlibdem420 Nov 2012 #17
SidDithers Nov 2012 #18
slackmaster Nov 2012 #19
MattSh Nov 2012 #25
liberal N proud Nov 2012 #20
Mass Nov 2012 #21
ThoughtCriminal Nov 2012 #22
JCMach1 Nov 2012 #23
MattSh Nov 2012 #24
wickerwoman Nov 2012 #26
MrYikes Nov 2012 #27
MichaelMcGuire Nov 2012 #29
woo me with science Nov 2012 #30
woo me with science Nov 2012 #31

Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:17 AM

1. The administrators from these other countries should come for a "round table" all on CSPAN!

 

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Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:20 AM

2. Good post.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:25 AM

3. Thanks! keep kicking

 

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Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:27 AM

4. All msm should be focused on the ACA this coming year, 2014 its running...

 

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Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:37 AM

5. May I have a link for this?

Thx

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Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:40 AM

6. You can also add Taiwan to the list: 1995 - Single Payer

By the way, Japan doesn't have single-payer. It has mandatory insurance (not-for-profit, of course), but it functions much like a single-payer system.

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Response to subterranean (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:50 AM

8. Thanks! I will

 

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Response to subterranean (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 12:29 PM

11. Important point.

Most (if not all) of the nations that have an 'insurance mandate' also have very strict regulation over how much is charged. While many allow companies to profit through 'extras' (like cosmetic procedures, etc), they are generally not allowed to profit from basic care policies.

That is a world of different from what we have instituted.

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Response to enlightenment (Reply #11)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 01:20 PM

14. Moreover these countries are monopsonies

That's like a monopoly, only instead of a single seller dominating the market, a single buyer does. That is generally the government, which dictates rates and coverage for basic insurance.

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Response to enlightenment (Reply #11)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 05:10 AM

28. I was so hoping that somebody would point this out. Thank you. n/t

 

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Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 12:11 PM

9. We need nationalized health care now. I don't care what you call it.

It would be nice to join the ranks of civilized countries.

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Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 12:23 PM

10. k&R

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Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 01:05 PM

12. And the complete list of countries that have rescinded their nat'l health plan after enacting one:

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Response to Scuba (Reply #12)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 01:11 PM

13. But the privateers are working on it

The sharks are circling, using the same Shock Doctrine tactics that are being used to justify gutting Social Security and Medicare in the States.

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Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 01:22 PM

15. Wow, what a great list! nt

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Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 01:40 PM

16. kick

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Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 01:43 PM

17. Surprised Taiwan was so late to the party

 

The Kuomintang was authoritarian, conservative, and undemocratic, but they were definitely very statist and definitely not neoliberal.

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Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 01:45 PM

18. FWIW, the beginnings of single payer in Canada started in a single province in 1946...

When Saskatchewan passed Tommy Douglas' Saskatchewan Hospitalization Act.

Over the next 15 years, each of the 10 provinces set up their own Provincial single payers system.

The 1966 date referenced in your list is when the Federal government passed the Medical Care Act.

The Canada Health Act, which is the current framework of Canada's single payer system, wasn't passed until 1984.


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Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 01:47 PM

19. So, in two years we'll be where Germany was in 1941

 

1941.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #19)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:10 AM

25. At war with 10 different countries?

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Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 02:10 PM

20. We wanted to make sure it would work first




GREED is holding America back from being the great nation it once thought it was.

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Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 02:12 PM

21. Interesting list.

FWIW, the French system started in 1945, with a mandatory system for all workers. The system at that point was already more complete than the ACA will be when fully implemented.

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Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 03:14 PM

22. Tea-Party type was complaining

He said people who want "socialized" medicine can move to other countries if they want it (seriously - he thinks this is a real option!). But people who don't want to pay for it have no place to go anymore.

My response was that "Yeah, it's hard to find a civilized country that thinks not being able to get health care because you have pre-existing conditions is a good idea".

Last time the topic ever came up.

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Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 03:21 PM

23. UAE does not have Universal Care at all... IS the rest of the list accurate?

Government Charity hospitals are not a Universal Care system. They are literally the last option. Only the extremely poor, or destitute go to these.

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Response to JCMach1 (Reply #23)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 02:55 AM

24. Not very accurate at all...

Just about every country of the former Soviet Union has some type of universal health care, plus China, plus India. Yet not a single one of them are listed here. I guess they ignore them because they are somehow "less developed."

I'm guessing this one is a lot more comprehensive...

http://chartsbin.com/view/z1a

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Response to MattSh (Reply #24)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:28 AM

26. They're limiting it to the top 32 developed nations,

which seems fair. It's not a comprehensive list of every country with universal health care- just a list of developed countries that have had it for a while and the system they use.

China has universal health care but the standard is fairly low compared to the west. I remember being taken into a room the size of an airplane hangar full of barcaloungers in rows where people were strapped into IVs with a timer that beeped when the nurse was supposed to come and take you out again. Many of the hospitals were not very clean by Western standards. And a lot of the "prescriptions" I got were dubious Traditional Chinese Medicine treatments or OTC drugs in the west although they did have some truly badass cough syrups...

But it's not really fair to compare that to health care in the US or Europe. It may be universal but it's also a lot cheaper and probably less effective. Some are even dangerous because a lot of place dispense expired drugs they bought cheaply. A friend of mine had a stroke at 27 after taking expired medicine he got from a Chinese pharmacy.

I know in India too that the patients are expected to pay for their own medical supplies on hospital stays down to the sheets and syringes. If you don't have family to bring you home cooked meals and go out and buy all the supplies for you, your hospital stay is considerably less comfortable and effective.

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Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 05:02 AM

27. Congress shall extend Medicare to all Americans

Lest you forget.

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Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 05:42 AM

29. Healthcare in Scotland prior to 1948 by the

 

the National Health Service (Scotland) Act 1947 came into being in 1948. UHC came about through two acts one for Scotland and one for England and Wales, there is no UK NHS Act there is in fact 3 NHS's in Britain not a single NHS. But even before that the local govr was involved in HC over half of Scotland's landmass mainly Highlands and Islands free for emergency use. State-funded health system run directly from Edinburgh 35 years earlier althou not universal.

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Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:26 AM

30. K&R

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Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:29 PM

31. Kick

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