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Mon Nov 26, 2012, 08:38 AM

On MJ, John Heileman touts universal health care, Joe Scar tells him to go live in Luxembourg.

Heileman, smiling, said he was "thinking about doing that."

Gee, who would want to go live in such a hellhole. Just look at this awful photo of the godforsaken place:

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Reply On MJ, John Heileman touts universal health care, Joe Scar tells him to go live in Luxembourg. (Original post)
CTyankee Nov 2012 OP
Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2012 #1
CTyankee Nov 2012 #2
Ed Suspicious Nov 2012 #8
Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2012 #10
CTyankee Nov 2012 #15
SugarShack Nov 2012 #12
CTyankee Nov 2012 #16
MrScorpio Nov 2012 #3
CTyankee Nov 2012 #4
dynasaw Nov 2012 #5
avebury Nov 2012 #6
Scuba Nov 2012 #18
AlbertCat Nov 2012 #7
Dustlawyer Nov 2012 #9
California Expat Nov 2012 #11
meegbear Nov 2012 #13
CTyankee Nov 2012 #17
meegbear Nov 2012 #20
CTyankee Nov 2012 #21
vlyons Nov 2012 #14
n2doc Nov 2012 #19
Ligyron Nov 2012 #22
CTyankee Nov 2012 #23

Response to CTyankee (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 08:58 AM

1. But do they have lolipops growing on trees there?

I couldn't believe they used that as a metaphor for universal health coverage.

On edit, yeah I can believe it...

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Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:06 AM

2. Joe always says something like that when it comes to universal health care.

I was SO pleased to hear heileman at least BRING UP universal health care (I would hope he would also use the term "single payer" just to see Joe's head reallly explode!).

The fact that every other industrialized nation on the PLANET has univeral, single payer health care for its citizens cannot be ignored for long.

But conservatives are right (from their own perspective) to oppose Obamacare. Once people get used to having health care, they will be more likely to accept Single Payer down the road. I would hope that is Obama's real future objective with Obamacare. If so, he will be credited with more than just his program...

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:23 AM

8. I think the reply to the question from people like Joe Scar. needs to be...

"Sure, we could do luxemburg. Or maybe I could move to Canada or the UK, maybe Argentina or Japan. Possibly Austrailia would be another destination. Perhaps Germany or the rest of Europe. "

"The fact that every other industrialized nation on the PLANET has univeral, single payer health care for its citizens cannot be ignored for long. "

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Response to Ed Suspicious (Reply #8)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:46 AM

10. And we ignore that little fact at the expense of stifling entrepreneurship in the US.

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Response to Ed Suspicious (Reply #8)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 12:35 PM

15. Joe has talked about "other countries" having better health outcomes at much less cost in

rational moments on the show. So he does know this.

Maybe he is just being cynical because he figures that the health insurance companies are so firmly entrenched...

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Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:32 AM

12. For their healthcare, Lux has a mandate

 

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Response to SugarShack (Reply #12)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 12:36 PM

16. Sure. It's part of their taxes like all the other countries with Single Payer. It's still cheaper an

better and the people of those countries wouldn't change it for ours for one minute!

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Response to CTyankee (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:11 AM

3. I've been there before

I'll go back in a heartbeat.

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:16 AM

4. I wanted to visit when I was in Belgium last month but my schedule didn't permit it.

Luxembourg has the highest per capita GDP in the WORLD. Of course, with such a large banking community there, it isn't surprising, but Joe needs to be reminded of THAT fact....

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Response to CTyankee (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:43 AM

5. Well Costa Rica Has Universal Health Care

GDP per capita is $10,900. I t has no army.

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Response to CTyankee (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:07 AM

6. There is nothing wrong with wanting to live

in a country that is more concerned about providing universal health care then in being the biggest military bully on the block. It is time that this country becomes more realistic about our military and that we have one for the 21st century while weaning the Military Industrial Complex off of the public dole. This country was founded upon the principle of We the People not We the 1% or We the Corporation.

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Response to avebury (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 01:07 PM

18. +1,000

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Response to CTyankee (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:16 AM

7. Joe Scar tells him to go live in Luxembourg.

Why do that, Joe? He can just become a Rep in the House and get publicly funded healthcare.... like you did.

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Response to AlbertCat (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:33 AM

9. Tell Joe to go to somewhere where they don't have any

Government, we won the election! These cold hearted SOB's are mentally unbalanced and greedy! Where are their Christian values?

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Response to CTyankee (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:28 AM

11. I live in Sweden

Its a socialist hell hole.

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Response to CTyankee (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:37 AM

13. If that's Luxembourg, where's he gonna live?

Is that a house?

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Response to meegbear (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 12:38 PM

17. I just got it off Google. Evidently, it is a pretty place.

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #17)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 03:21 PM

20. And I know it's a small country, but it couldn't be THAT small

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Response to meegbear (Reply #20)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 03:27 PM

21. I liked it because of its elegance and opulence...kinda the way I see Luxembourg...

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Response to CTyankee (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:41 AM

14. What a dump!

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Response to CTyankee (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 03:19 PM

19. No, Joe, your guys lost. You go to Somalia. n/t

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Response to CTyankee (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 03:53 PM

22. I remember

way back in 1971, when our church took a teen group over there to tour, first night there in Lux. City one of our guys cuts his foot on glass sliding down the grass embankments at the park in center of town. Doctor sowed him up and there was no charge.

Even for us foreigners.

We're way behind here people.

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Response to Ligyron (Reply #22)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 07:48 PM

23. People here are so brainwashed on the whole "Socialist medicine" idea. It's idiotic but they

believe it, probably because they don't don't know folks like you who can call bullshit on this propaganda...

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