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Sun Nov 25, 2012, 10:58 AM

McCain's problem: He's pissed President Obama won.

McCain: Obama’s The Problem, Not Ambassador Rice

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said that the problem with the administration's response to the Benghazi attacks has more to do with President Obama than with UN Ambassador Susan Rice, during an appearance on "Fox News Sunday," even though congressional Republicans, including McCain, have gone after Rice in recent weeks.

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"Sure," McCain said to the question of whether Rice could do anything to change his mind about her. "She can give everyone the benefit of explaining their position and the actions that they took. I'll be glad to have the opportunity to discuss these issues with her."

Responding to a follow-up question on whether that means McCain is now open to voting for Rice if nominated, McCain replied: "I think she deserves the ability and the opportunity to explain herself and her position, just as she said. But she's not the problem. The problem is the president of the United States who in a debate with Mitt Romney said that he had said it was a terrorist attack…"

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/mccain-obamas-problem-not-ambassador-rice


He's pissed because Barack Obama showed him up before 2008. He's pissed that Barack Obama showed him up in 2008. He's pissed that he lost the 2008 election. He's even more pissed that Mitt lost. See, McCain, like all the other delusional Republicans, actually believed Mitt was on his way to winning. Could you imagine the "in" that would mean for McCain? He would have become an insufferable asshole, bigger than the insufferable asshole he is in defeat.

As for the debate:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/101768318



John McCain is not very bright
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/25/1163027/-John-McCain-is-not-very-bright

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Reply McCain's problem: He's pissed President Obama won. (Original post)
ProSense Nov 2012 OP
leftyohiolib Nov 2012 #1
pangaia Nov 2012 #8
Skidmore Nov 2012 #2
The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2012 #3
Iggy Nov 2012 #6
oldhippydude Nov 2012 #12
The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2012 #13
oldhippydude Nov 2012 #15
rocktivity Nov 2012 #4
Kahuna Nov 2012 #7
Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #5
sofa king Nov 2012 #9
EC Nov 2012 #10
AgingAmerican Nov 2012 #11
alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #14
Cha Nov 2012 #16

Response to ProSense (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:10 AM

1. i heard that susan rice had said some not very flattering about mccain

she was on some committe or panel and said something (i cant remember what it was)

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Response to leftyohiolib (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:52 AM

8. It was about his walking around a 'perfectly safe'

Baghdad while wearing a flak jacket, helmet, surrounded by soldiers, with snipers on nearby roofs and helicopters flying overhead.
She came down on him about how silly it was and his hypocrisy about the whole thing.. something like that.
He's never forgiven her for it.

The guy has needed to be in therapy his entire life, but especially since Vietnam.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:12 AM

2. McCain isn't as pissed as I am after his foisting of Palin on the nation.

BTW Romney frozen in that expression looks like he has been embalmed.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:14 AM

3. McCain has always been a sore loser.

After Bush beat him in the 2000 primaries (using some dirty tricks I wouldn't blame McCain for being POd about) and later "won" the election, McCain did what he could to push back against legislation W wanted. He became a "maverick" who was willing to work with Democrats because he saw that as a way of getting even with Bush, not so much because he believed in bipartisanship.

And ever since Obama cleaned his clock in '08, he's been angry and eager to get even. He holds grudges forever. Now it's worse because he no longer has any chance of getting out of the Senate and being appointed to an important Cabinet position. So he'll do what he can to fuck that up for Susan Rice and try to embarrass Obama in the process. He's a bitter, vindictive old asshole.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:25 AM

6. Right, Stumpy McCain

 

was crushed by not only Obama, but the rove/cheney/bush cabal in 2000-- didn't they come out with some sort of nonsense regarding mcCain having a "secret black love child" somewhere?

McCain actually had momentum in that race; IMHO he was told by the cabal to "step aside and wait his turn". that didn't work out very well-- however, he has nobody but himself to blame for going along with the scam.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 05:27 PM

12. i had never considered his maverick as get even with W

wasn't Mc Cain, Feingold a Clinton era reform? your observation about his vindictive personality is spot on.. I am hoping that Az. can dump him next time around.. demographics might seal that whole bunch of assholes fate..

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Response to oldhippydude (Reply #12)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 05:38 PM

13. His "maverickiness" during the Bush admin. is considered by many

to be an attempt at revenge. For example, a couple of years ago Steve Kornacki wrote:

Bush slowed McCain’s momentum with an ugly South Carolina win, then finished him off on Super Tuesday. Which is when we first met the sore loser version of McCain. Except that most people didn’t think of him as a sore loser back then. The underhanded tactics that Bush had employed to beat McCain — not to mention the stark contract between their images — made McCain a victim in just about every non-GOP base voter’s eyes. When he pouted through the spring and summer and offered only lukewarm support for Bush in the fall, McCain got a pass. After all, wasn’t he justified, with all the garbage that Bush’s backers had spread about McCain and his 8-year-old daughter in South Carolina?

McCain’s embitterment and sense of victimization only grew, and when Bush was inaugurated, it morphed into startling defiance. The new president pushed for sweeping tax cuts, an article of faith in Republican circles. McCain voted no. The new president called for a patients’ bill of rights that shielded insurers from lawsuits; McCain demanded that it give patients the right to sue. The new president proclaimed that existing gun laws were more than enough. McCain teamed up with Chuck Schumer to push for background checks at gun shows. And on and on.

Talk swirled of another McCain-Bush race in 2004. McCain’s aides did nothing to tamp it down; instead, they reminded reporters that McCain’s political hero was Teddy Roosevelt — who’d bolted the GOP to run a third-party campaign against a sitting Republican president in 1912. Democrats enticed McCain to leave the GOP and join them — and he encouraged their overtures. In June 2001, McCain invited Tom Daschle, then the Senate’s Democratic leader, to spend a weekend with him at his ranch. (Daschle later said that one of McCain’s top aides urged him to ask McCain to switch parties.)

Was McCain’s defiance of his party’s leader part of some long-standing ideological rift? Hardly. McCain’s congressional voting record had always been reliably conservative — until Bush had the audacity to beat him in an election. So McCain used ideological dissent to pursue a personal grudge — and to position himself for 2004.


http://www.salon.com/2010/04/08/mccain_never_maverick_sore_loser/

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #13)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 05:44 PM

15. thanks

he ended up on the right side of some issues out of spite... then had to run to the fight in 08.. serves him right..

thanks for the info while i was struggling making a living and didn't pay much attention

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:20 AM

4. Correction: McCain's problem that he's pissed Obama won

TWICE.


rocktivity

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:51 AM

7. BINGO!!!

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:25 AM

5. just a bitter old man

he is one of the 'entitled class' because he won the sperm lottery

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 12:17 PM

9. He has more to be pissed at than that.

After he lost to Senator Obama, McCain had to watch as President Obama pursued a successful and peaceful Presidency.

President Obama easily managed to end the war in Iraq after six years of hard Republican work turning that place into what was to be a permanently occupied (and permanently profitable to a select few) fortress.

He easily killed Osama bin Laden--apparently by following the money trail that the Bush Administration so assiduously obscured.

He forced Republicans to flense half a trillion dollars from the defense budget over ten years.

He snookered Congressional Republicans into voting against a middle class tax cut in an election year, and to agree to the expiration of tax cuts for the rich--which was the one thing Republicans were put in Washington to protect.

President Obama did all of that by masterfully manipulating Republicans in Congress, always holding the carrot of greed in front of their noses while carefully walking them into a new cage.

President Obama didn't just beat John McCain's ass, he beat his ass and then made McCain into a better and more effective Democratic Senator than he ever was as a Republican.

So all of us watching McCain's squirming this week should smile and recall that he's doing it while firmly planted atop his own petard. All he had to do to avoid virtually all of this was do an honest job as Senator. President Obama bet everything on the fact that Republicans couldn't act honestly, even for one week, and he won big for it.

That is what upsets John McCain.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 01:32 PM

10. He thought HE was going to be the new

Secretary of State...so now he's pissed...Obama "took" the Presidency away form him and now he's "taking" this job from him too.


Oh, yeah on edit: He's also a small enough man to be complaining that he can't believe he lost to a black man.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 01:33 PM

11. It's pretty dang obvious

Once upon a time he was somewhat reasonable. Now he is just an angry bitter old fool. Time to hang up the hat, gramps.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 05:43 PM

14. Please proceed, Senator

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 05:50 PM

16. Thanks for the link to kos, ProSense!

By now those who didn't know her credentials are aware of them. Those of us who have her back, from the president on down to a coalition of congresswomen, to bloggers and commentators like Soledad O'Brian and Rachel Maddow, have made it clear that she is not only a brilliant Rhodes scholar, but is an astute diplomat, with an important background in not only international affairs in general, but Middle East terrorism specifically.

President Obama is not afraid of strong smart women. He's surrounded by them.

Republicans have attacked his wife, his mother-in-law, his daughters, appointees like Valerie Jarrett, Susan Rice, Melody Barnes and U.S. Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor.

Republicans have gone after Tammy Duckworth on her military record. Teh stoopid ruled. Scott Brown went after Elizabeth Warren on her pride in having Native American ancestry.

So McCain lost an election partly because of his choice of a female running mate. Her selection—based on her having a uterus rather than brain cells—was stupid.

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