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Sun Nov 25, 2012, 10:39 AM

 

Book it for 2016. Neither Jeb or Hillary are running for President.

JEB will be laughed out of the primaries before he started. The Bush curse will be activated, and no more Bushes or their spawns are going to be allowed to run for ANY political office again. That includes George P running on whatever in Texas, and will lose BIG.

Hillary has been travelling a long time and she will be around 70 years old by the time 2016 hits, and there are a lot of bright stars ready to take Obama's places. There are many lists I agree with, many I don't. The Castro brothers from San Antonio are definitely the brightest stars of them, and they will have a good and long political career. I would not be surprised if they have any presidential aspirations. You have to remember that Hillary said she is "overtired" and will need a lot of time to recover - and I don't think she is ready for another long haul of public work.

Here are some interesting people to think about for 2016:

Elizabeth Warren
The Castro brothers
Mike O'Malley of Maryland

Oh yes, did we think that Barack Obama would be President so soon after he hit the spotlight in the 2004 Democratic Convention?

Think about it.


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Reply Book it for 2016. Neither Jeb or Hillary are running for President. (Original post)
Panasonic Nov 2012 OP
RomneyLies Nov 2012 #1
Squinch Nov 2012 #5
graham4anything Nov 2012 #6
TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #11
Bigmack Nov 2012 #17
PennsylvaniaMatt Nov 2012 #2
unblock Nov 2012 #3
graham4anything Nov 2012 #4
Heather MC Nov 2012 #14
graham4anything Nov 2012 #15
MjolnirTime Nov 2012 #7
Panasonic Nov 2012 #9
Fumesucker Nov 2012 #8
Coyotl Nov 2012 #10
BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #16
Bluenorthwest Nov 2012 #12
PennsylvaniaMatt Nov 2012 #13
Floyd_Gondolli Nov 2012 #18
Panasonic Nov 2012 #19
Shankapotomus Nov 2012 #20

Response to Panasonic (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 10:41 AM

1. Elizabeth Warren will never be president

 

Love her dearly.

Love her politics.

She's to far to the left to ever be a presidential nominee.

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Response to RomneyLies (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 10:54 AM

5. I agree. Mike from Maryland looks like a possibility, though.

But I'd so love to see Hillary, even though I do believe her saying she won't run.

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Response to RomneyLies (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 10:55 AM

6. I am glad someone said this besides me. One issue candidates never do well as democrats

 

but she should lead the senate for 3 terms.

She is just what the dems have needed since Teddy died.

She could be the new LBJ in the senate (LBJ was the single greatest majority leader ever).
He got things passed.

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Response to RomneyLies (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:12 AM

11. AKA not an owned creature of Wall Street and true believer in unchecked corporate domination

What is so far left about Elizabeth Warren?

Seems like Democrat-Regular to me, before the Turd Way fuckwits took over.

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Response to TheKentuckian (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:35 AM

17. I agree...it's not that she's Left.. it's her anti-corporate ideas that will kill her nomination. nt

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Response to Panasonic (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 10:51 AM

2. I agree...

I was just thinking about that this morning. I have a feeling that either our nominee or the Republican nominee will be someone who we could not have imagined. Like Barack Obama being the nominee in 2008 when no one in 2004 could have predicted that!

I do, however, think that Joe Biden will run. The DNC might not want him to be the nominee, but he is going to give it a try anyway. He has dropped too many hints for him to NOT be running!

And I also agree with the above comment on Elizabeth Warren.

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Response to Panasonic (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 10:51 AM

3. obama in 2008 was exceptional in many ways

while he was instantly deemed presidential material after his 2004 convention speech, he and his team actually weren't planning on running for president in 2008 until they saw what a debacle shrub's second term was rapidly becoming, and they realized that the time was right for someone like obama. calm, cool, rational, and inspiring seemed the perfect antidote to shrub.

the times picked obama, and exceptional candidate at an exceptional time.


i don't see the times being especially exceptional in 2016, so i'm less inclined to think an unknown or outsider might get through the nomination process. in that sense things may play well for clinton, though it's certainly easy to point to the obvious instant front-running, although i wouldn't rule out some other "establishment" candidate like biden.


i don't think republicans will choose yet another bush, i think that brand's too damaged. in any event, i'm definitely worried as i think their chances are good in 2016. i think it will be another close election, but unless we find someone with real charisma, the backdrop may be too much for us. we've got a lot of work to do if we want to keep the gains we have.

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Response to Panasonic (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 10:52 AM

4. there is that age thingy. Elizabeth Warren will ALSO be around 70 by 2017. OOPS bigtime fail

 

Wanna bet Mitt's 10 grand?

and immediately cross off all white males as Dems have a base they need to keep making history with.

O'Malley must have a good press agent, but he has as much chance as say Eugene McCarthy did-meaning ZERO.
He has the #1 wrong thing for the democrats demogrpahically speaking-that is, he is a white male.

Time for a female president.

BTW-Liz needs to remain the #1 liberal fireball in the senate, and Scott Brown would just take her seat, a no-go

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:23 AM

14. May the best person win. Age, Sex, Race, and Religon

shouldn't matter. I like the Maryland Gov. what I have seen of him. Intelligent, calm, and he knows how to hand someone their ass in a fight while smiling.

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Response to Heather MC (Reply #14)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:25 AM

15. He'd make a good pitbull VP.

 

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Response to Panasonic (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 10:55 AM

7. If you don't think it's going to be Hillary, you don't know Bill.

 

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Response to MjolnirTime (Reply #7)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:01 AM

9. All I'm saying is that Hillary has said she did not want to run for President.

 

She is taking time off after she finishes her duties as the Secretary of State, going back to being a private citizen for awhile.

Then she'll think about it, but not sure if she's going to do it.

I say she won't do it.

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Response to Panasonic (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 10:55 AM

8. From your lips to the FSM's noodley aural receptors, pasta be upon him

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Response to Panasonic (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:08 AM

10. Michelle Obama might be the best candidate in 2016.

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #10)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:31 AM

16. you forgot the sarcasm tag.

 

what in the world would qualify Michelle Obama to be POTUS?
what elective office has she ever held...? or ran for?

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Response to Panasonic (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:12 AM

12. Warren is just two years younger than Clinton....

So I'm not getting the point about age at all....

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Response to Panasonic (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:22 AM

13. Here's another possibility...

What about Deval Patrick, Governor of Massachusetts?

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Response to Panasonic (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 12:16 PM

18. Mike O'Malley?

 

It's actually Martin O'Malley.

Castro won't be a factor on the presidential level until he becomes a congressman, senator or governor. He could also use some hair plugs, but that's a story for another day.

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Response to Floyd_Gondolli (Reply #18)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 12:20 PM

19. Sorry.

 

I know it was O'Malley, but I couldn't remember which one it is.. Martin or Mike.

Thank you for the correction.

Castro is maybe 12 years away from attempting a presidential run, 2020 or 2024.

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Response to Panasonic (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 12:42 PM

20. Alan Grayson

Should be somewhere on the ticket, if not it.

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