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Sat Nov 24, 2012, 09:00 PM

U.S. Election Speeded Move to Codify Policy on Drones

Facing the possibility that President Obama might not win a second term, his administration accelerated work in the weeks before the election to develop explicit rules for the targeted killing of terrorists by unmanned drones, so that a new president would inherit clear standards and procedures, according to two administration officials.

The matter may have lost some urgency after Nov. 6. But with more than 300 drone strikes and some 2,500 people killed by the Central Intelligence Agency and the military since Mr. Obama first took office, the administration is still pushing to make the rules formal and resolve internal uncertainty and disagreement about exactly when lethal action is justified.

Mr. Obama and his advisers are still debating whether remote-control killing should be a measure of last resort against imminent threats to the United States, or a more flexible tool, available to help allied governments attack their enemies or to prevent militants from controlling territory.

Though publicly the administration presents a united front on the use of drones, behind the scenes there is longstanding tension. The Defense Department and the C.I.A. continue to press for greater latitude to carry out strikes; Justice Department and State Department officials, and the presidentís counterterrorism adviser, John O. Brennan, have argued for restraint, officials involved in the discussions say.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/25/world/white-house-presses-for-drone-rule-book.html?hp&_r=0

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cal04 Nov 2012 OP
undeterred Nov 2012 #1
loudsue Nov 2012 #2
Ms. Toad Nov 2012 #4
woo me with science Nov 2012 #9
Arctic Dave Nov 2012 #3
Fumesucker Nov 2012 #5
msongs Nov 2012 #6
reusrename Nov 2012 #7
woo me with science Nov 2012 #10
woo me with science Nov 2012 #8
woo me with science Nov 2012 #11
jsr Nov 2012 #12

Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 09:03 PM

1. When I put this together with the Nobel Peace Prize

I get all confused.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 09:05 PM

2. This is a discussion WE, THE PEOPLE should be having WITH them.

They need to quit doing this shit on the sly.

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Response to loudsue (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 09:09 PM

4. Agreed.

The willingness to use drones is one of the reasons I had a hard time motivating myself to vote for President Obama.

Ultimately, I had domestic policy reasons to support his re-election - so I found a way to be involved in helping to ensure his re-election that did not require me to actively campaign for him (I spent around 90 hours on voter protection).

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Response to loudsue (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 02:41 AM

9. +10000000 And it's a damned pattern.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 09:08 PM

3. "available to help allied governments attack their enemies"

 

Hmmm, very curious statement.

How long until that mentality is justifiable in the US?

What constitutes an "enemy of the State" and why should we care who that is in other countries?

Sounds a lot like assasins for hire.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 09:18 PM

5. In ten years they'll be going after parking ticket violators with drones

Better hope you like being under surveillance 24/7/365 because that's what's coming.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 09:28 PM

6. bush war crimes bad, obama's war crimes = "clear standards and procedures" nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 09:35 PM

7. War Crimes!

 

That would be the "double tap" drone strikes. I think this was the real reason for the resignation of Gen. Petraeus.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1179&pid=1558

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Response to msongs (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 09:53 AM

10. Thank you. nt

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 10:29 PM

8. K&R

Had enough yet, America?

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 12:26 PM

11. Kick. This is important. nt

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 07:41 PM

12. This is important for purposes of improving productivity

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