HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » Can’t find a job? Move ov...
Introducing Discussionist: A new forum by the creators of DU

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 06:07 PM

Can’t find a job? Move overseas.

Can’t find a job? Move overseas. Emily Matchar, WaPa 11/23/12

.................

We didn’t know we would be part of a wave of educated young Americans heading overseas in search of better employment opportunities. According to State Department estimates, 6.3 million Americans are studying or working abroad, the highest number ever recorded. What’s more, the percentage of Americans ages 25 to 34 who are planning to move overseas has quintupled in two years, from less than 1 percent to 5.1 percent. Among 18- to 24-year-olds, 40 percent are interested in moving abroad, up from 12 percent in 2007.

In the past, Americans often took foreign jobs for the adventure or because their career field demanded overseas work. Today, these young people are leaving because they can’t find jobs in the United States. They’re leaving because the jobs they do find often don’t offer benefits such as health insurance. They’re leaving because the gloomy atmosphere of the American economy makes it hard to break through with a new innovative idea or business model. “This is a huge movement,” says Bob Adams, president and chief executive of America Wave, an organization that studies overseas relocation.
.................

Jackson estimates that half of her graduate school classmates in the United States are underemployed or employed in jobs far different fromprofessions they trained for. Still, her family has a hard time understanding why she and her husband chose to live abroad. “They didn’t believe us when we said we can’t get a job” in the United States that’s competitive, she says. “Not only can we not get jobs in the U.S., but even if we did, we’d be taking a serious pay cut.”
.................


Sean Love, 27, traded a job as a medical research assistant in an “understaffed and underfunded” lab at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore for a similar job in Singapore. But the new position comes with better funding, happier co-workers, twice the number of vacation days, nearly free health care and a much higher quality of life.Love’s girlfriend, who had spent months fruitlessly searching for a nonprofit job in the Baltimore-Washington area, had two appealing job offers within two months of moving to Singapore. Other friends who moved to Asia had similar experiences. “Asia is without a doubt the new land of opportunity for those brave enough to buy a plane ticket,” Love says.

..................................

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/cant-find-a-job-move-overseas/2012/11/23/b7322ef4-3273-11e2-9cfa-e41bac906cc9_story_2.html

21 replies, 2217 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 21 replies Author Time Post
Reply Can’t find a job? Move overseas. (Original post)
ErikJ Nov 2012 OP
Demeter Nov 2012 #1
pampango Nov 2012 #8
Demeter Nov 2012 #9
aletier_v Nov 2012 #15
Demeter Nov 2012 #17
Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #2
ErikJ Nov 2012 #4
HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #3
Little Star Nov 2012 #5
bluestateguy Nov 2012 #6
ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2012 #7
Demeter Nov 2012 #10
Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2012 #14
RainDog Nov 2012 #11
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #12
ErikJ Nov 2012 #16
RagAss Nov 2012 #20
southernyankeebelle Nov 2012 #13
tabasco Nov 2012 #19
southernyankeebelle Nov 2012 #21
HiPointDem Nov 2012 #18

Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 06:09 PM

1. Welcome to Globalism

Also known as putting all the eggs in one basket, then smashing the basket.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Demeter (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 06:28 PM

8. Yeah a closed world is much more progressive than an open world.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to pampango (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:46 PM

9. You misunderstand

Small, decentralized, decoupled economies, not interlinked by massive corporate systems, can sustain small spasms that heal quickly, and the worker can travel short distances to find work if the spasm lasts too long, and return when conditions improve back home, if desired.

But now, with 147 closely coupled Corporations pulling all the strings, there is no independence, which we have seen already.

When one bank goes down (say, Lehmans), they all go down and so do all their clients, unless some government backstops the entire global financial system (like US).

Is this any way to run an economy? Are people safer, better employed, able to plan their futures? NO!

For more education on the subject, DU hosts an excellent Stock Market Watch daily thread, and a weekly Weekend Economists thread, bringing data, analysis, and humor to the subject. (Disclosure, I am a long-time participant in those group efforts, and started the Weekend effort).

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Demeter (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:54 PM

15. Globalism is already in the first stages of "evolution".

It never made sense in its current (i.e. this century) form.

It's mostly a play on temporary differentials that are already playing out,
that's partly why we had the 2008 crash. It's currently morphing into
"regional globalism" which makes a little more sense but will still suffer
an additional failure in the near future, I think.

There's just no fricking reason to buy raw materials in South America,
ship it to Asia to processing, then back to Japan to more processing,
and then back over to the U.S. for assembly
and back to Europe for sales.

It's fricking insanity and I strongly suspect future historians will view it as such.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to aletier_v (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 09:36 PM

17. I think I'd call it "De-evolution"

because the system is unsustainable, ineffective, and intent on killing us all.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 06:15 PM

2. Sounds exciting. Have to speak the language, I guess.

Singapore has several official languages; English is one of them, so that's fine. If you move to China, that official language is Chinese, of course. French is the official for France. And so on.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 06:18 PM

4. further down

..........Without knowing Cantonese, considered one of the world’s hardest languages, we may never feel like locals. But now more than ever, “local” is hard to define. Our friends here are from all over — the United States, Britain, India, Italy, South Africa, Greece. A few came for the adventure. But most others came for the jobs.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 06:16 PM

3. It's just like American young to abandon their aging mothers.

Self-interested little sn*** think they can get ahead by ditching their responsibilities...well just you wait and see how that works out in the WILL!!!!

Work your fingers to the bone....and what do you get... SHIT and SHINOLA! Little brats have no sense of decency...



Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 06:22 PM

5. lol

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 06:25 PM

6. I have a college friend who did just that

She is making more money than she ever did in any job she previously had here.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 06:25 PM

7. I've had the TV on NatGeo watching Locked Up Abroad and

there's no way in hell I'm leaving the U.S.!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:48 PM

10. Yeah, you don't know what you've got till it's gone

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:53 PM

14. One of my college friends went on a study program in Norway after graduation

and never came back. She kept postponing her return and has ended up spending her whole career there. I asked her what her parents thought about it, and she said that eventually they realized that she was enjoying a much better quality of life in Norway than she would have in the U.S.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:48 PM

11. Regressive Banana Republic Corporate America Policies

have made other nations more attractive for talented young people.

America used to be the nation where those looking for opportunity would come to study and stay.

This is a reverse brain drain and it's an example of why a refusal to update America's social safety net and minimum wage, treating colleges as corporate entities rather than investments in America's young people and so on... has been so bad.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:52 PM

12. There is a name for this

The US used to be the beneficiary...hmmm brain drain. That's it. Welcome to banana republic status.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #12)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 09:17 PM

16. You have to be a gambler to live in the US

A gamble that you wont get very sick or injured and die or lose everything. 1 million people a year in the US declare bankruptcy from medical bills. It would be reasonable to move overseas just for their universal health care alone.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ErikJ (Reply #16)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 11:35 PM

20. Amen. This is No Country for Young Men(or Women).

It's a fucking frontier, fleeced by the rich until the courage comes to overthrow them.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:53 PM

13. I have lived overseas on different ocassions. All I can say there is no place like home.

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #13)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 10:25 PM

19. Or Bavaria

There are many places and they are all different.

Some are better than others and the USA is best in some ways and worst in other ways, for me.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to tabasco (Reply #19)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 09:08 AM

21. Your so right. But in the end our families are back home. I would have no problem living

 

in Germany or Italy or Spain for that matter. My husband and I both have european relatives but they aren't the immediate family. But I could see me living there. But there is no place like home during the holidays, period. I miss 4th of July when living in europe. Just little things like that.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 09:54 PM

18. the global dustbowl. unfortunately, things are tough all over.

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread