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Sat Nov 24, 2012, 10:57 AM

Salvation Army Official: Gays Deserve Death

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Salvation Army Official: Gays Deserve Death

Just in time to ruin Gay Pride month, a media relations director for the Salvation Army had no problem reminding us and the queer journalists he was talking to that gays should be put to death. In talking to Australian queer journalists Serena Ryan and Pete Dillon on their Salt and Pepper radio show (audio below which was picked up by Truth Wins Out's John Becker), Major Andrew Craibe, a media relations director for one of the organization's Australian branches, had this exchange with the hosts:

Ryan: According to the Salvation Army, deserve death. How do you respond to that, as part of your doctrine?
Craibe: Well, thatís a part of our belief system.
Ryan: So we should die.
Craibe: You know, we have an alignment to the Scriptures, but thatís our belief.
The doctrine they're referring to is, as Queerty's Dan Aver reports, the Salvation Story: Salvationist Handbook of Doctrine, which borrows heavily from Romans 1:18-32 and states:


For this reason God gave them up to degrading passions. Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error. . .
They know Godís decree, that those who practise such things deserve to dieóyet they not only do them but even applaud others who practise them.


Until this weekend, Craibe's media presence had been mostly non-existent, his last remarks that we found were about children with disabilities, social and financial disadvantages, and their visit to a zoo--not something you would expect from a guy who sounds more or less like a hate monger.

Since Craibe's popped this weekend, the Salvation Army has officially distanced itself from Craibe's remarks with a carefully-worded response. In a statement, Salvation Army spokesman Major Bruce Harmer said Craibe's comments were "extremely regrettable" and Salvation Army members did "not believe, and would never endorse, a view that homosexual activity should result in any form of physical punishment." Harmer goes on to apologize, citing a misunderstanding of the "death" passage (he says the passage refers to "spiritual death" and not physical death):

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2012/06/salvation-army-official-gays-deserve-death/53885/

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The Straight Story Nov 2012 OP
enlightenment Nov 2012 #1
bevb Nov 2012 #2
nilram Nov 2012 #19
beac Nov 2012 #62
nilram Nov 2012 #66
Care Acutely Nov 2012 #67
joeybee12 Nov 2012 #3
Zorra Nov 2012 #4
Lex Nov 2012 #9
Dakota Flint Nov 2012 #21
ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #24
shaayecanaan Nov 2012 #26
War Horse Nov 2012 #34
War Horse Nov 2012 #30
obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #37
War Horse Nov 2012 #46
TrogL Nov 2012 #5
Archae Nov 2012 #6
JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #7
Bluenorthwest Nov 2012 #8
Gman Nov 2012 #11
Occulus Nov 2012 #28
Gman Nov 2012 #41
LibertyLover Nov 2012 #44
Gman Nov 2012 #47
The Straight Story Nov 2012 #59
obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #38
Gman Nov 2012 #42
Arugula Latte Nov 2012 #51
Maven Nov 2012 #56
Gman Nov 2012 #57
Maven Nov 2012 #58
FreeState Nov 2012 #17
JoeyT Nov 2012 #27
JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #35
plantwomyn Nov 2012 #20
dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #50
Maven Nov 2012 #55
lindysalsagal Nov 2012 #10
sarcasmo Nov 2012 #14
jtuck004 Nov 2012 #12
sarcasmo Nov 2012 #13
loyalkydem Nov 2012 #15
Jasana Nov 2012 #25
reACTIONary Nov 2012 #32
sibelian Nov 2012 #33
santamargarita Nov 2012 #16
obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #39
santamargarita Nov 2012 #52
Jasana Nov 2012 #18
AgingAmerican Nov 2012 #22
plantwomyn Nov 2012 #23
hrmjustin Nov 2012 #29
Matariki Nov 2012 #31
obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #36
Mosby Nov 2012 #40
smirkymonkey Nov 2012 #43
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WinkyDink Nov 2012 #53
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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 11:34 AM

1. What we wrote isn't what we meant!

Right.

Then maybe they should rewrite it so it says what they mean - instead of what it clearly says.

Ick.

They're tripping over their own feet in their effort to back pedal on that bit of nastiness.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 11:44 AM

2. Haven't donated to them in many years

Boy Scouts are another org I haven't and won't donate to.

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Response to bevb (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:33 PM

19. ditto. Not used goods, not in their red buckets. I do give them a cheery "hello!" though.

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Response to nilram (Reply #19)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 03:20 PM

62. I've got a stash of these printed up and ready to go into those red buckets:



found here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021709626


ETA: to make it the same size as a real bill, edit the dimensions to 6" x 2.625"

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Response to beac (Reply #62)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:55 PM

66. nice!

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Response to beac (Reply #62)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 12:21 AM

67. Thanks, what a great idea!

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 12:01 PM

3. Tme to start dropping pieces of paper in their kettles again...

Reminding them why I don't donate.

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 12:03 PM

4. +1 nt

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 12:45 PM

9. I agree with this.

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:41 PM

21. Good idea

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:48 PM

24. +1 nt

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:56 PM

26. I stayed in one of their caravan parks

together with my mother, when it was a matter of need. I don't agree with much that they say, but I donate anyway. If I could bring myself to use their services, notwithstanding their eccentricities, then I should be able to bring myself to donate.

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Response to shaayecanaan (Reply #26)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 03:00 PM

34. They do a lot of good

No question. Which makes the whole thing even more frustrating, doesn't it?

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 02:07 PM

30. Yes, nice idea

This crap seems to be swept under the rug a lot of the time. I do donate to my local Christian charity when I can. Because they - you know - help people, and that's it. No condemnation or sanctimonious BS.

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Response to War Horse (Reply #30)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 03:37 PM

37. Thyere are plenty of local charities to go to

And, for much of their help, you DO have "BS" you have to go through, often including church services.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #37)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 04:53 PM

46. Oh, I certainly agree

But in this particular case my cousin works for them, and she's as tolerant as they come . They have an non-official policy of hiring folks who are 'functional', but not necessarily 'clean' to do certain jobs, just so they might catch a break, and I've yet to see any proselytizing.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 12:08 PM

5. I've smelled nicer horseshit

if you have to "carefully word" your response, it's not a heart-felt response, it's generally a non-apology along the lines of "I'm sorry people were offended".

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 12:15 PM

6. Craibe gets busted in a gay sex scandal in 3-2-1...

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 12:22 PM

7. He's a "media relations director" for a local chapter.

He doesn't run the organization, nor does he decide where the aid goes. Albeit, he's not very good at his job, but since the SA officially put a firwall between him and the organization I assume his bigoted position is not a model for the Salvation Army as an organization.

I would expect this man to soon find another means of employment. The GOP could always use another media director if he were willing to relocate. If the SA doesn't let him go I'd have to question why not.

Meanwhile, I intend to toss a few coins in the bucket sometime this season, and will give to as many other foundations as financially possible. Until the Salvation Army actually comes out and tells LGBTs to seek help elsewhere, I can overlook one idiot in Australia.

As far as "ruining gay pride month" for anyone, it must be hanging by a thead for that to be true.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 12:34 PM

8. Expect and assume away, the organization could easily fire the man and make clear

announcements of their own positions, nothing stopping them. It is their name that is sullied with this hate and if they don't rise to defend it the loss is also their own.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 12:56 PM

11. Same here. I'll keep writing checks and dropping money in their buckets

Nothing to see here. Just some loudmouth that got canned.

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Response to Gman (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 02:03 PM

28. You're either ill-informed or, well, a bigot

This past December, The New York Times published a story on their rigid and much-dissented views, in particular how the organization ignored a homeless homosexual couple and offered to help if they only broke up. And the LGBT Bilerico project/blog (created by Bil Browning, who was the subject of the Times piece), has more references about the Salvation Army's history of anti-LGBT actions--from threatening to shut down soup kitchens in New York City because of civil rights ordinances to trying to get a resolution passed so that the charity could ignore non-discrimination laws.


Still gonna keep writing those checks?

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Response to Occulus (Reply #28)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 04:13 PM

41. Yup. Why not? Why stop donating to a good cause over isolated anecdotal incidents?

Makes no sense to me.

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Response to Gman (Reply #41)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 04:28 PM

44. Let me understand here

you are saying that a New York Times article detailing a number of anti-gay actions taken by the Salvation Army are isolated anecdotal incidents?

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Response to LibertyLover (Reply #44)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 05:02 PM

47. Well for one thing I saw no link

but that doesn't matter. I don't see where it's been demonstrated that the SA has institutional policies that are anti-gay. All I've seen are reports of workers or local people applying their own opinions to what they think the SA is or ought to be.

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Response to Gman (Reply #47)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 03:05 PM

59. Well, here is their official position

Homosexuality


The Salvation Army believes that homosexuality can be properly considered only in the broader context of a biblical understanding of human sexuality in general. The creation account set out in the opening chapters of Genesis reveals the following truths:

1. That we are made in the image of God (Genesis 1:27);

2. That God created us both male and female (Genesis 1:27);

3. That this differentiation of the sexes is a part of the divine image in the human race (Genesis 1:27);

4. That the loneliness of Adam was remedied by God through the creation of a woman, not a second man (Genesis 2:21, 22);

5. That sexual union leading to a one-flesh relationship is intended to be between male and female (Genesis 2:23, 24);

6. That such union is intended to be in the setting of a permanent and publicly acknowledged relationship forming the basis of a new family unit (Genesis 2:24).

The Bible thus teaches that Godís intention for mankind is that society should be ordered on the basis of lifelong, legally sanctioned, heterosexual unions. Such unions (marriages) lead to the formation of social units (families) which are essential to human personal development and therefore to the stability of the community.

Scripture opposes homosexual practices by direct comment (Leviticus 18:22, 23; 20:13; Romans 1:26, 27; 1 Corinthians 6; 1 Timothy 1:10) and also by clearly implied disapproval (Genesis 19:1-29; Judges 19:1-30; 2 Peter 2:1-22; Jude 3-23). The Bible treats such practices as self-evidently abnormal. They reject both the obvious implications of human physiology and the potential for procreation. Romans 1 sees homosexual acts as a symptom of a deeper refusal to accept the organising scheme of God for the created order (Romans 1:23-25).

The Army recognises that same-sex friendships can be enriching, Christ-honouring relationships, bringing joy through mutual companionship and sharing. However, same-sex relationships which are genitally expressed are unacceptable according to the teaching of Scripture. Attempts to establish or promote such relationships as viable alternatives to heterosexually-based family life do not conform to Godís will for society.

For this reason, and in obedience to the example of Jesus whose compassionate love was all-embracing, Salvationists seek to understand and sensitively to accept and help those of a homosexual disposition and those who express that disposition in sexual acts. Salvationists are opposed to the victimisation of persons on the grounds of sexual orientation and recognise the social and emotional stress and the loneliness borne by many who are homosexual.

The Army regards the origins of a homosexual orientation as a mystery and does not regard a homosexual disposition as blameworthy in itself or rectifiable at will. Nevertheless, while we are not responsible for what we are, we are accountable for what we do; and homosexual conduct, like heterosexual conduct, is controllable and may be morally evaluated therefore in the light of scriptural teaching.

For this reason such practices, if unrenounced, render a person ineligible for Salvation Army soldiership, in the same way that unrenounced heterosexual misconduct is a bar to soldiership. The Army recognises the strength of feeling about sexual identity, and the difficulty many find in expressing this identity in keeping with scriptural standards.

However, it believes firmly in the power of Godís grace to enable the maintenance of a lifestyle pleasing to him, including a lifestyle built upon celibacy and self-restraint for those who will not or cannot marry. No one who yields to the lordship of Christ and who undertakes by his grace to live in accordance with the teaching of Scripture is excluded from Christian fellowship and service in the Army.

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Response to Gman (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 03:40 PM

38. Their Doctrine states gays should be killed

A "forgiving" reading of that passage would be gays should only be tortured.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #38)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 04:15 PM

42. I suppose if you want to read it that way

But I'll keep donating.

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Response to Gman (Reply #42)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 06:23 PM

51. Why not give to a better cause? It's not like there aren't other good groups out there doing

similar work.

I don't get this stubborn attitude -- just give your $$ to a better, non-bigoted organization. Easy.

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Response to Gman (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 08:28 PM

56. Congratulations, you're a homophobia enabler and apologist.

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Response to Gman (Reply #57)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 02:56 PM

58. Hysteria? None here. Dishonesty and willful blindness? Look in the mirror.

I've seen enough of you to know your allegiances are flexible when it suits you. Quite a true blue dem you are.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:28 PM

17. So your going to stop donating then?

http://www.bilerico.com/2011/11/why_you_shouldnt_donate_to_the_salvation_army_bell.php

The Salvation Army has a history of active discrimination against gays and lesbians. While you might think you're helping the hungry and homeless by dropping a few dollars in the bright red buckets, not everyone can share in the donations. Many LGBT people are rejected by the evangelical church charity because they're "sexually impure."

The church claims it holds "a positive view of human sexuality," but then clarifies that "sexual intimacy is understood as a gift of God to be enjoyed within the context of heterosexual marriage." The Salvation Army doesn't believe that gays and lesbians should ever know the intimacy of any loving relationship, instead teaching that "Christians whose sexual orientation is primarily or exclusively same-sex are called upon to embrace celibacy as a way of life."
On its webpage, the group claims that "the services of The Salvation Army are available to all who qualify, without regard to sexual orientation." While the words are nice, their actions speak volumes. They blatantly ignore the position statement and deny LGBT people services unless they renounce their sexuality, end same-sex relationships, or, in some cases, attend services "open to all who confess Christ as Savior and who accept and abide by The Salvation Army's doctrine and discipline." In other words, if you're gay or lesbian, you don't qualify.

The organization also has a record of actively lobbying governments worldwide for anti-gay policies - including an attempt to make consensual gay sex illegal. (Yes, you're paying lobbyists with those donations.)

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Response to FreeState (Reply #17)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:57 PM

27. No, they're going to move the goal posts.

It isn't nice to say it, but it's the truth.

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Response to FreeState (Reply #17)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 03:25 PM

35. If the SA discriminates against anyone, including GLBT....

I would be much less inclined to help.

Though I'm not gay myself, and I admit things like gay marriage isn't one of my primary driving causes, I won't donate to an organization that discriminates against people who want equality... especially for religious reasons.

Since I don't actively research information on GLBT causes, I was unaware of the Salvation Army's policy on this. I promise to take your cue and investigate further. If what the article claims is true (and I have no reason right now to believe it isn't), and the SA universally discriminates against gays, I'll not give another dime. I thought the SA was a group of individual chapters that are locally governed and the money collected by each chapter stayed in that community. If it proves that the local SA here upholds this policy as a matter of organizational compliance, or if the change collected funnels to the top, I can easily ignore that clanging bell for a month.

There are too many other, perhaps more worthy charities, that I don't have to give to anyone in particular. Thanx for the tip.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:37 PM

20. From the Salvation Army handbook of Doctrine

Without Godís wrath, his love would become sentimentality. It is not arbitrary or subject to emotion but is a natural consequence of sin, which is seen working itself out in history and in human society as well as in the lives of individuals (Hosea 5:10; John 3:36; Romans 1:18-32; Ephesians 2:3).

Romans 1:18-32 is in the OP.
"It is not arbitrary or subject to emotion but is a natural consequence of sin..."

Any thinking person would come to the conclusion that the Salvation Army's Doctrine calls for the "natural consequence" for homosexuality should be "God's wrath" as called for in Romans. In short, DEATH.

We cannot allow this deflection and diversion tactic can't go on.

The Republican Party put a firewall between themselves and Mourdock and Akin. But, as with the SA Official and their Handbook, there is NO difference in their doctrine document and what their representatives stated. They simply don't have the gonads to stand up for their TRUE core beliefs in the face of media examination. In short they are COWARDS.

Tomorrow, they will soften their message, they will find someone to express the EXACT SAME DOCTRINE in a way that makes them seem reasonable. The question is whether we will stay vigilant enough to call them to task, even when they are wolves in sheep's clothing?


Not that I have anything against wolves.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 05:47 PM

50. Perhaps he could find a job in Metz' Denny restaurants in Fla.

as a ....media person.

John Metz Denny's Obamacare Surcharge Stirs Big Mess For Restaurant Chain

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014313137

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 12:52 PM

10. More proof that religious institutions aren't necessarily charitable

Religion just scares me.

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:22 PM

14. +1

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:13 PM

12. Oh, well, now. So the real spokesperson for the SA says


"... a view that homosexual activity should result in any form of physical punishment. ..."

In other words "they are wrong, sinners, blah, blah, blah, but WE are okay because we don't want to just kill 'em."

I don't see that as much improvement

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:21 PM

13. Salvation Army statement, spiritual death Yes, physical death NO.

Donate zero dollars to the Salvation Army.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:22 PM

15. I'm starting to wonder

if people will ever accept us.

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Response to loyalkydem (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:49 PM

25. Acceptance...

I know it's hard. I was mostly brought up by my grandparents but my Mom was gay and I spent a few years living with her in the 1970s.

One atrocious memory I have is when one of my best friends suddenly wasn't allowed to be around me. I was so hurt when she just started ignoring me. At some point in school though, she pulled me aside and told me she wasn't mad at me. She said she had seen my Mom kissing Gerry and she had never seen two women kissing before so she asked her parents about it. She said her parents freaked out and didn't want her talking to me anymore.

Now mind you, I was not gay. I was just a seven year old child and those parents punished me too by taking my friend away. I could tell you other stories but you get my point.

My overall point is... it may not seem like it right now but things are slowly getting better. This is a long hard slugfest we're going to be in and we can't give up to people who hate so blindly. People are slowly starting to come around.

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Response to loyalkydem (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 02:43 PM

32. No one is ever accepted by everyone. nt

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Response to loyalkydem (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 02:48 PM

33. They just don't get it.


They only have organised religion as a template to compare. They think homosexuality is a form of rebellion.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:27 PM

16. One bigoted right wing asshole will cause...

donations to suffer because he can't keep his goddamn mouth shut!

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Response to santamargarita (Reply #16)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 03:41 PM

39. Except this is what the Sallies actually believe

And preach.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #39)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:38 PM

52. Your right, as sad as it is.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:29 PM

18. No Donations from Me...

But somebody up thread mentions putting notes in the kettle to remind them of why. I never thought of this before. I'm going to do it this year.

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Response to Jasana (Reply #18)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:44 PM

22. Bingo

Another one added to my list

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 02:06 PM

29. This is why I never give to them. They want me dead.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 02:08 PM

31. Just in time for christmas and Salvation Army's army of bell ringers.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 03:34 PM

36. Which is why I don't give them a red cent

Nor do my parents nor my sister and brother. We all give to local hate-free charities instead.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 03:53 PM

40. this kind of info needs to be spread around

You all know they need permission to set up outside stores, if their bigotry was more widely known I can't see every grocery store in the country allowing them access to their property like they do now. Just today alone I saw them outside sams club, walgreens and safeway. Nothing like taking a huge financial hit to change a bigots tune.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 04:23 PM

43. I will never give them another donation in my life.

Until they change their stance on gays. That is a promise.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 04:31 PM

45. I never give to them.

The anti-gay stance is only one of the reasons why. I don't like to give to organizations who apply conditions for their help. Sure you can come into our shelter and have a hot meal, so long as we can proselytize to you. I just happen to believe that helping those in need shouldn't be conditional.

Peace.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 05:03 PM

48. Wish I could get my $20 back that I stuck in the bucket yesterday. Never again

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:41 PM

53. To a Christian, BY DEFINITION, the NT supercedes the OT. "Love thy neighbor......"

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #53)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 04:57 PM

64. the quote is from Romans, which is in the New Testament

St. Paul's letters, of which this quote from Romans is from, is a well-known quite hateful screed to one's fellow man (look up all the fun stuff on women next! ) and in general colors the 4 Gospels -- the core text of Christian faith and generally a pretty revolutionary theosophy based on individual worth (salvation) and the belief of a loving God -- in a horrible light due to association.

i many not expect my 2000 year old theosophers to be as progressive in their thinking as we may be today, but given the contrast within the singular testament corpus itself, it's rather embarrassingly unacceptable. Jesus was very interesting; St. Paul, though crucial to Christianity's modern founding, is pretty much just an asshole.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:44 PM

54. There are so many compassionate non-hateful charities to give money to

I can't imagine why anyone would choose them.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 03:13 PM

60. What to put in the kettle, then?

Monopoly money.

A voided check made out to "Sorry, I don't contribute to homophobia."

A used hanky.

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #60)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 03:18 PM

61. Get a handful of arcade tokens.

They make a clink.

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #60)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 03:28 PM

63. These:

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Response to beac (Reply #63)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 08:40 PM

65. Queer as a three-dollar bill!!

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