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Sat Nov 24, 2012, 12:16 AM

We subsidize Wal Mart

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Reply We subsidize Wal Mart (Original post)
ashling Nov 2012 OP
dkf Nov 2012 #1
Sherman A1 Nov 2012 #4
dkf Nov 2012 #5
OKNancy Nov 2012 #6
aandegoons Nov 2012 #8
Fla Dem Nov 2012 #15
dkf Nov 2012 #9
devilgrrl Nov 2012 #10
FlyinButter Nov 2012 #17
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #11
Fla Dem Nov 2012 #16
OKNancy Nov 2012 #22
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #12
SomethingFishy Nov 2012 #14
Sherman A1 Nov 2012 #19
this is temporary. Nov 2012 #20
Angry Dragon Dec 2012 #24
alp227 Nov 2012 #2
blkmusclmachine Nov 2012 #3
aandegoons Nov 2012 #7
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #13
glinda Nov 2012 #18
PETRUS Nov 2012 #21
cbdo2007 Nov 2012 #23

Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 02:24 AM

1. Makes you wonder how bad off their employees would be without Walmart.

 

One would think they can't get better jobs or they would be elsewhere.

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Response to dkf (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 04:39 AM

4. Where are those other jobs?

Sometimes you take what you can get because there is no other option. We must remember that Wal Mart has been a factor in not only the destruction of main street, but in the loss of manufacturing jobs as it requires cheaper and cheaper pricing from it's suppliers forcing them to reduce labor costs and off shore their production, so that they could create an environment of predatory pricing to eliminate their local competition. Once those local pharmacies, grocers, small stores are gone, where are people to shop or work?

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 04:55 AM

5. Life is difficult for small businesses that don't compete with Walmart too.

 

It's not Walmart, it's the general advantage we give to big businesses, making the tax code so difficult to navigate that only the largest can take advantage, making it all but impossible for small businesses to get decent affordable healthcare...

I hear Dodd Frank is 400 pieces of regulation. How is the small community bank supposed to keep up with that?

The expertise needed by the poor soul trying to start and run a small enterprise is mind boggling. It doesn't even need Walmart to make it hard.

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Response to dkf (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 06:02 AM

6. typical right wing talking point.

I owned a small business for over 30 years. Employed from 9 to 15 people. It's not that hard.
I did everything myself except the year-end taxes. I'd say a few hours a month is all that is needed.
If a small business can't deal with that, then they shouldn't be in business in the first place.

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 06:26 AM

8. I had a very small business for a short time.

And you are right it is really not any harder than doing any type of book keeping.

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 08:29 AM

9. Yeah it takes a few hours a month once you realize how all the laws work and what you need to do.

 

But getting to that level isn't instantaneous, you have to learn and research it first.

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Response to devilgrrl (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 02:29 PM

17. I can do that!

 

Hey dkf:



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Response to dkf (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:17 PM

11. You know, you are talking to people who have run businesses

Believe it or not, we ain't clueless.

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:38 PM

16. I worked for a small business owner for 10 years up until this past April

I kept the books, paid the salaries, and did the quarterly tax reporting along with other things, like advertising etc. I even did the year end tax work involving W-2/W-3 and 1099/1096 reporting. We only needed an accountant to do the year end tax reporting for the business. I am sure there are more complex businesses issue for some companies than the one I worked for, but I would guess most "small businesses" are pretty much like the one I worked for.

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Response to Fla Dem (Reply #16)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 08:43 PM

22. Yes, I decided not to respond to dfk

it's not that difficult and the only research I ever did was go to the IRS website. It's a great resource.

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Response to dkf (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:22 PM

12. Lovely RW talking point by the way

Where did you get this jewel? Heritage?

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Response to dkf (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:30 PM

14. Yeah the 400 "regulations" in Dodd Frank are killing businesses



Clueless about business and clueless about Dodd Frank... Thanks for playing.

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Response to dkf (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 04:20 PM

19. I ran a small retail business for 18 years

as well as working within the industry's trade association made up of many small businesses, so I have some understanding of how small business works and the challenges they face.

As a niche Retailer I did and did not directly compete with Wal Mart depending up the product, so I get that too. I was fortunate in that my business was esoteric enough to have been far off the Wal Mart Radar Screen.

That said Wal Mart has put many a small business out of business through predatory pricing and as I stated earlier, forced many to off-shore jobs just to maintain shelf space within the Wal Mart chain. When those jobs disappear in Retail, Distribution or Manufacturing it becomes difficult to find a replacement.

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Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:01 AM

24. ............

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 02:41 AM

2. END CORPORATE WAL-FARE! (redundant?)

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 03:00 AM

3. Sucks.

Prices don't look very good, now, do they?

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 06:23 AM

7. Isn't the earned income credit a subsidy too?

I wonder if that is included also. If not it should be. I thought that the EIC was introduced so big business did not have to raise wages for the poor.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:23 PM

13. Sherman anti trust

That should be the first step, second, a national living wage standard. Forger of a minimum wage, living wage.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 02:57 PM

18. Far more than that. We pay their taxes usually

in the beginning for their utility hook-ups and roads, etc.... as well as their empty buildings they leave behind when morphing into a Superstore. Our Country would be much better off if Walfart had to pay their own way.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:53 PM

21. K&R

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 10:16 PM

23. Socialism is the backbone of the United States.

Anyone who thinks the USA is capitalist is an idiot.

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