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Fri Nov 23, 2012, 05:01 PM

 

Obama brings in grassroots team to cut deal on fiscal cliff

Barack Obama has enlisted the help of his formidable grassroots army of volunteers in the battle with Republican members of Congress over the fiscal cliff, the January 1 deadline for a deal on tax and spending...

The Obama campaign team, in an email to its extensive network of supporters, said: "Right now, president Obama is working with leaders of both parties in Washington to reduce the deficit in a balanced way so we can lay the foundation for long-term middle-class job growth and prevent your taxes from going up."

It calls on them to spread the word about Obama's position to friends, families and neighbours. It said he wanted a balanced budget that will extend tax cuts for 98% of the population, eliminate tax cuts for the wealthiest and cut spending by $3tn.

"These problems are challenging, but they're solvable. In fact, the Senate has already passed a bill to keep your taxes low. The House needs to pass it, and Congress should get it to the president as soon as possible," the OFA mail said.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/22/obama-grassroots-team-fiscal-cliff


What is the bill he's referring to? Anyone have the text?

It seems to me there's no reason to push for a deal before Jan 1. And rush deals cut during the holiday season (when the population is paying less attention) are usually *bad* deals.

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HiPointDem Nov 2012 OP
freshwest Nov 2012 #1
spedtr90 Nov 2012 #2
Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #3
HiPointDem Nov 2012 #5
freshwest Nov 2012 #7
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HiPointDem Nov 2012 #6

Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 05:13 PM

1. Here's one you may have missed, from July of this year. Probably others:

Harry Reid wins a big one on tax cuts (updated)

The political maneuvering worked for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and failed for Republican Mitch McConnell. The Senate just voted to advance a middle class tax cut extension by a vote of 51-48.

Reid finally succeeded in doing what Republicans have been fighting for nearly two years: separating the middle class tax cut extension from the tax cuts for the wealthy, and that breaks the hold the Republicans have had on this hostage.

It's on to the House, where Speaker John Boehner plans on holding a vote on extending all of the tax cuts, including for the rich, next week. This jams him up just a little bit. Republicans will try to say that there's a "blue slip" problem, that the Senate can't originate a tax or spending bill constitutionally, but it's a really thin reed for them to be grasping. Trying to use an arcane procedural argument for holding middle class tax cuts hostage to the wealthy just isn't going to cut it.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/25/1113648/-Harry-Reid-wins-a-big-one-on-tax-cuts

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=2&vote=00184

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021021095

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 05:14 PM

2. Middle Class Tax Relief Act of 2012?

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 05:17 PM

3. I can't find anything and there is nothing on the website about specific legislation...

http://www.barackobama.com/news/entry/forward-this-the-presidents-plan-to-keep-your-taxes-low-and-reduce-the-defi

The "plan" described on the website is depressingly short on details.

Though OFA may be referring to the Senate bill passed in July. I am trying to find the bill's number in order to see the details.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/25/politics/senate-tax-vote/index.html

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 05:49 PM

5. thanks.

 

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 06:39 PM

7. A quick google produced the text for me. Here is the link for you to read the text:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/s3412/text

You can also download that as a pdf for later.

The Senate has already done their job under the leadership of Harry Reid.

Now it is time for us to call, mail,email and visit to pressure the House of Representatives.

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 05:26 PM

4. OFA is also pushing this revenue increase now by visiting Congress people:

Will the 29 Sanders-letter senators co-sponsor the Begich Social Security bill?

The most recent Social Security bill, proposed by Alaska Sen. Mark Begich, includes such enhancements as full cancellation of the payroll cap — making the Social Security tax a simple flat tax and not a regressive one — and improves the cost-of-living adjustment by indexing it to the items most bought by the elderly. All round, a very good bill.

This bill also goes on offense, putting a stake in the ground that says Social Security benefits should be enhanced, not just kept the same. I hope you can see the negotiating benefit of that.

The 29 senators who signed the Sen. Sanders letter are playing excellent defense — drawing a line that says No Cuts to the safety net and No New Tax Breaks for the rich. (With the Bush–Obama Tax Cuts set to expire in December, renewing them is without doubt a new tax break.)

Can we get the 29 senators to go on offense as well, and co-sponsor the Begich bill? You could ask them.


Here’s that list of Sanders-letter senators, the good guys in this fight. Note that Mark Begich, the author of the Begich bill, is an organizer:

Organizers:

Bernie Sanders (I-VT) — (202) 224-5141
Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) — (202) 224-2921
Mark Begich (D-AK) — (202) 224-3004
Al Franken (D-MN) — (202) 224-5641

Other signers:

Harry Reid (D-NV) — (202) 224-3542
Chuck Schumer (D-NY) — (202) 224-6542
Jack Reed (D-RI) — (202) 224-4642
Sherrod Brown ((D-OH) — (202) 224-2315
Ron Wyden (D-OR) — (202) 224-5244
Patrick Leahy (D-VT) — (202) 224-4242
Ben Cardin (D-MD) — (202) 224-4524
Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) — (202) 224-4822
Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) — (202) 224-2823
Tom Harkin (D-IA) — (202) 224-3254
Jeff Merkley (D-OR) — (202) 224-3753
Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) — (202) 224-3224
Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) — (202) 224-4654
Patty Murray (D-WA) — (202) 224-2621
Barbara Boxer (D-CA) — (202) 224-3553
Maria Cantwell (D-WA) — (202) 224-3441
Daniel Akaka (D-HI) — (202) 224-6361
Tim Johnson (D-SD) — (202) 224-5842
John Rockefeller (D-WV) — (202) 224-6472
Daniel Inouye (D-HI) — (202) 224-3934
Tom Udall (D-NM) — (202) 224-6621
Robert Menendez (D-NJ) — (202) 224-4744
Carl Levin (D-MI) — (202) 224-6221
Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) — (202) 224-4451
Joe Manchin (D-WV) — (202) 224-3954

http://americablog.com/2012/11/will-the-29-senators-who-signed-the-sanders-letter-co-sponsor-the-begich-social-security-bill.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=253882

A reply on the thread leads to this:

Dem Senator Introduces Bill To Lift Social Security’s Tax Cap, Extend Its Solvency For Decades

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/11/16/1208701/democratic-senator-introduces-bill-to-lift-social-securitys-tax-cap-extend-its-solvency-for-decades/

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1871773

I'm calling my two Senators who are already signed onto the bill to thank them for their continuing support of the social safety net for all Americans.

I'm sure there are more threads that will answer questions. Using DU search or checking out progressive websites will find a lot more if anyone is interested.


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Response to freshwest (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 05:50 PM

6. name and number of the bill?

 

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