HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » Man decks teen on street,...
Introducing Discussionist: A new forum by the creators of DU

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 11:47 PM

Man decks teen on street, knocks her out cold, caught on video

update to article: He's been arrested. that was some punch. She's lucky she didn't have a concussion or worse.



http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/man-decks-teen-street-article-1.1205762

Police said the man followed the woman from her home in Plaistow, east London, before decking her. The girl said she woke up in an ambulance and doesn't remember the attack.

Luckily, the girl wasn’t seriously injured.

She was treated for bruises and cuts at Newham General Hospital and released later that day, the newspaper said.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/man-decks-teen-street-article-1.1205762#ixzz2D1AMuLHC

48 replies, 4305 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 48 replies Author Time Post
Reply Man decks teen on street, knocks her out cold, caught on video (Original post)
Liberal_in_LA Nov 2012 OP
msongs Nov 2012 #1
MrSlayer Nov 2012 #2
Liberal_in_LA Nov 2012 #3
MrSlayer Nov 2012 #4
rDigital Nov 2012 #5
noamnety Nov 2012 #6
Archae Nov 2012 #9
noamnety Nov 2012 #16
lunatica Nov 2012 #17
LeftofObama Nov 2012 #12
noamnety Nov 2012 #14
TrogL Nov 2012 #36
flvegan Nov 2012 #7
BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #40
mfcorey1 Nov 2012 #8
MNBrewer Nov 2012 #15
Bad_Ronald Nov 2012 #10
longship Nov 2012 #11
Silent3 Nov 2012 #13
lunatica Nov 2012 #18
mythology Nov 2012 #19
Silent3 Nov 2012 #23
noamnety Nov 2012 #20
Silent3 Nov 2012 #21
noamnety Nov 2012 #22
Silent3 Nov 2012 #24
noamnety Nov 2012 #25
Silent3 Nov 2012 #27
noamnety Nov 2012 #31
Silent3 Nov 2012 #38
noamnety Nov 2012 #45
jtuck004 Nov 2012 #46
AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #28
Silent3 Nov 2012 #37
AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #39
Silent3 Nov 2012 #44
AlexSatan Nov 2012 #32
Silent3 Nov 2012 #35
AlexSatan Nov 2012 #47
Cerridwen Nov 2012 #41
Silent3 Nov 2012 #42
Cerridwen Nov 2012 #43
truebrit71 Nov 2012 #26
AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #29
Skip Intro Nov 2012 #48
ceeRoy Nov 2012 #30
Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #33
x2 vancouverite Nov 2012 #34

Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:06 AM

1. whatever happened to the scum who decked a teacher in an alley a few months back nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:06 AM

2. You have to wonder what the hell that was about.

 

Gang initiation? Just an asshole? Does he know her and have something personal going on?

Whatever the reason, that's some sick, cowardly shit to do. And while I know it's an unpopular stance around here, I hope this dude gets worked over big time in jail. He needs some karma.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MrSlayer (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:09 AM

3. Speculation was that he tried to chat to her, she kept walking, and he retaliated.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:14 AM

4. Whatever it is, I hope his cellies all know what he's in for.

 

That's just the act of a gutless punk.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:18 AM

5. The world is a scary place. You never know what's around the next corner.

 

Stay Frosty out there folks.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:19 AM

6. OMG, I needed to see that.

I got grabbed in a grocery store two days ago by some creep who wouldn't let go of me and I couldn't pull away.

This is what I needed to stop feeling sulky about that. Now I just feel lucky that that's all that happened, and he eventually did let me go.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to noamnety (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:37 AM

9. Ye gawds! What happened with your attacker?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Archae (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 09:46 AM

16. I am a giant dork and an introvert

so I tend to freeze in those situations instead of yelling "get your hands off me or I'm going to smash you in the balls" or grabbing a can of tomatoes with my free arm and thunking on the head good. Either one of those reactions was nice to think about after the fact.

I am glad their cranberries were marked down so low (75 cents a bag). I ended up getting about 8 bags for the freezer to add to oatmeal throughout the year. At least there was that. But I'm still stuck a little replaying the incident in my head, trying to figure out what I should have done, what would have made me feel heroic or at least competent.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to noamnety (Reply #16)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 09:52 AM

17. If you practice 'reacting' then it comes to you in those circumstances

You can get a friend or a family member to practice with you. Tell them to grab you and you react. Practice will truly come to your rescue. Something as simple as, "Let go of me!" will get the desired result.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to noamnety (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 07:37 AM

12. Why would someone grab you in a grocery store? n/t

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LeftofObama (Reply #12)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 09:37 AM

14. So he could pull me in close

after asking if I was married and hearing yes - to tell me how husbands should be in the bedroom and how he's been alone a long time, etc.

He went from normal chatting to creep so fast I wasn't prepared for it.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to noamnety (Reply #14)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:17 PM

36. Give a description to the store management and the police

If the store has security cameras, they may have caught it

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:35 AM

7. I hope she has friends. Or even just one.

Like me.

Because that video, would be the end of enjoying his life.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to flvegan (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:38 PM

40. then you could be cellmates.

 

what fun.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:36 AM

8. Skip the trial and go straight to justice! nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to mfcorey1 (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 09:44 AM

15. Never skip the trial

Rule of law, and all...

Sheesh!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:59 AM

10. Disgusting, cowardly, dickless little smidgen of rodent shit. n/t

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 02:38 AM

11. Pretty much by defn, if she was knocked out cold, she's had a concussion.

Being knocked out means you've done some trauma to the brain. It's not like happens in the movies. I am not a doctor, but I listen to SGU which is hosted by neurologist Dr. Steven Novella.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 08:27 AM

13. For all any of us know...

...the woman might have done something before this like kick his dog until it was dead.

Is that likely? No. And I am in no way, shape or form trying to make excuses for this attack.

For all of the people in this thread who seem to be clamoring for "street justice", however, if you'd seen an act of such street justice like what some of you hope for, but without knowing the reason for it, you'd be pissed at that too, calling it "cowardly", and be cheering for another round of vengeance.

Why the rush to snap judgement, the eagerness for skipping trial and instance "justice"? Those are liberal, progressive values?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Silent3 (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 09:57 AM

18. So everyone should stand around wondering about all these questions?

My thought is that anyone who is bigger and stronger punching anyone else, especially someone smaller and weaker ought to be stopped no matter what the 'explanation' may be.

But maybe your idea of allowing it to happen because in your mind maybe the violence is warranted somehow, albeit the reason is unbeknownst to you is the way to go.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to lunatica (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 10:23 AM

19. There's a difference between watching something happen in real time

and commenting about a video of the event. In real time people should move to stop the violence and then figure out the cause.

But now the violence is over and we can take time to understand the cause. Maybe this guy is just a creep, but maybe he's mentally ill and so should get therapy and not locked in a prison cell with word out that he should be beaten which is what at least one person in this thread asked for.

For a recent example of why jumping to conclusions is bad, find the threads about the woman in Louisiana who claimed she was lit on fire by three guys. Immediately people were screaming bloody murder that the police didn't label it a racial hate crime, but it turned out she lit herself on fire.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to lunatica (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 11:18 AM

23. What I'm saying is that the supposed poetic justice so many people seem to crave...

...would end up looking just like the act of violence in the video that you condemn. If, when you don't know the back story, you say that it doesn't matter -- that no excuse or explanation or supposed provocation can excuse the first act of violence -- then how can you say the witnessed act of violence would excuse some imagined "street justice" follow-up?

If you aren't one of the people in this thread salivating over ganging up on the perpetrator with a bunch of your friends, or denying him a trial if ever caught, then you aren't someone my comment was aimed at.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Silent3 (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 10:25 AM

20. You've taken Blame The Victim to a whole new level. (nt)

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to noamnety (Reply #20)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 11:10 AM

21. It has nothing to do with blaming the victim

If people carried out the street justice they're talking about here, and other people viewed a video of that "justice" being carried out, then the receiver of that "justice" would be the new victim, and all of a sudden the same thing people are clamoring for would be the new unforgivable thing that couldn't be excused no matter what reason is given for it.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Silent3 (Reply #21)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 11:17 AM

22. There's a difference between objecting to vigilante comments

and suggesting that maybe she'd done something like kick his dog to death.

Suggesting that the police handle it and opposing vigilante justice is appropriate.

Suggesting that violence against women is brought on by women's actions (dressing provocatively, sleeping around, KICKING HIS DOG TO DEATH???) is blaming the victim.

All we need now is for someone to say she had it coming because she was wearing a hoodie.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to noamnety (Reply #22)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 11:20 AM

24. Speculation (especially clearly hypothetical) is not blame

How does that turn into blame, unless you are so poorly acquainted with the idea of exploring all sorts of ideas that you can't imagine giving voice to a thought unless it's already tantamount to an accusation?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Silent3 (Reply #24)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 11:31 AM

25. The speculation promotes the idea

that women bring violence on themselves by their actions, and promotes the idea that when we see violence against women, our thought process should be to begin wondering what they did to deserve it.

It normalizes blaming the victim.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to noamnety (Reply #25)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 11:45 AM

27. Would be OK to speculate if the victim were male?

This isn't a sexual crime, so why are you even bringing gender into this?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Silent3 (Reply #27)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 11:59 AM

31. I'd be a lot more surprised at that video

if it showed the same two individuals, but with the roles reversed. And that would be true even if they were of equal height/size.

Yes, I believe gender is directly related. I'm speculating that one gender tends to be perceived more often as an easy - and satisfying - target of violence, based on gender. Is that sort of speculation okay?

Or are we only allowed to speculate that the woman did something directly to the guy to bring this on herself?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to noamnety (Reply #31)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:23 PM

38. You can speculate, and should speculate...

...many different things, and not commit to any of them while in an information vacuum.

There's actually much more male-on-male violence than male-on-female violence, but I guess people consider that more "fair" because it's supposedly more evenly matched, just "boys being boys", and not worth of as much comment or outrage.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Silent3 (Reply #38)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 01:50 PM

45. You know, I need to back away from this discussion.

Having just been grabbed by a stranger this week, I am having a hard time with the notion that witnesses might (or should) speculate that I deserved it because I killed the asshole's dog or something. Have a nice day.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to noamnety (Reply #22)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 02:08 PM

46. UH, sleeping around, dressing provocatively...no problem, that's just human desire and ego,


men and women being men and women, and we often react like little children in big-people bodies, I think.


But kicking my dog is a whole 'nother thing...that would not end well.


Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Silent3 (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 11:55 AM

28. "For all any of us know..." she might have kicked "his dog until it was dead"? Are you nuts?

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #28)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:17 PM

37. You're not getting the point

Which you can consult other replies I've made in this thread to see... and then probably still not get it, since you've got a good rage-on going.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Silent3 (Reply #37)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:33 PM

39. Apparently you have a comprehension problem. First you post a bizarre statement to elicit responses

 

Then, because you've gotten responses and have responded to them, you now seem to think that the interaction and your responses have somehow made your origional statement less nutty?

You say, "consult other replies I've made in this thread to see... "

No thank you. When a person bites into a rotten apple, the smart thing to do is spit out the rotten part rather than eating the rest of the apple to see whether it will get any better.

How dare you look at the video of the cowardly assault on this 16-year-old teenager by this thug and then say "For all any of us know..." she might have kicked "his dog until it was dead."

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #39)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 01:38 PM

44. How dare I? Easily

Yes, much of the feedback I've gotten was predictable, but a predictable misunderstanding. I could have thrown in a couple of paragraphs of caveats and disclaimers attempting to avoid that misunderstanding (I did make some effort, which can be seen by doing more than merely skimming my first post), but when people are emotionally charged enough that stuff gets ignored anyway, so why waste the words?

If you can't even be bothered to look at other replies I've posted in this thread, I'll waste no more words making a longer custom reply for you, as you are obviously way too content feeling holier-than-thou to be bothered with further reading.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Silent3 (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:02 PM

32. It doesn't matter

 

There are no circumstances that justify that. If he is not evolved enough to handle those issues through the legal process and feels the need the physically confront her, at least have the guts to do it to her face--then deal with the consequences when she DOES handle it through the legal process.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to AlexSatan (Reply #32)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:16 PM

35. So all of the vigilante and/or no-trial fantasies...

...being indulged in here against the perpetrator in the video involve brave face-to-face confrontations with that perpetrator, and stoically facing arrest and legal charges afterward?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Silent3 (Reply #35)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 04:13 PM

47. Yep

 

If the person is to have any credibility as a decent human being.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Silent3 (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:42 PM

41. Did you notice the irony in your post?

You take to task posters here 'clamoring for "street justice"' while putting forth the idea that perhaps the guy who cold-cocked that woman was just meting out his own street justice.


Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Cerridwen (Reply #41)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 01:08 PM

42. That's the irony I was pointing out...

.. that already existed in the thread before my comment. Congratulations... you got my point. Sort of.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Silent3 (Reply #42)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 01:10 PM

43. Thanks. And congratulations.

You made your point. Sort of.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 11:38 AM

26. If that were my daughter i'd fuck that guy up so bad his grandkids..

...would be born dazed...

What a chickenshit...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to truebrit71 (Reply #26)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 11:57 AM

29. Very few people will engage in self-help. But I like your thinking.

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to truebrit71 (Reply #26)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 04:17 PM

48. +100. Fucking thug would wish he was in prison.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 11:58 AM

30. Running up and

 

sucker punching a teenage girl from behind...?...?and then ran away..??... what did she do ? called him a fag??..said some thing about his dead mother??..what could she have done?? The bottom line is that's a very disturbed individual...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:02 PM

33. Actions of a HyperPunk: Those who MUST hurt others

in the most vicious way possible.

Last exp. of this in Austin, Tx was done the same way, and committed by a veteran thug. He got forty (40) years. A bit much, but he's warehoused and in the system til he's old enough to evacuate on autopilot.

Wonder what wrist slap he'll get in London.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:06 PM

34. What is Tagg Romney doing in England?

 

Is daddy putting in a bid to buy that country?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread