Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:32 PM
1monster (10,708 posts)
16 replies, 2215 views
If Native Americans had our immigration laws: (Original post)
|Cal Carpenter||Nov 2012||#4|
|naaman fletcher||Nov 2012||#9|
|naaman fletcher||Nov 2012||#14|
|NYC Liberal||Nov 2012||#8|
Response to msongs (Reply #2)
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:45 PM
Cal Carpenter (3,637 posts)
4. Not even close
They were the first humans to populate the continent. There were no national borders. Incomparable to immigration today.
Response to naaman fletcher (Reply #9)
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 05:43 PM
1monster (10,708 posts)
11. Care to elaborate or link to evidence?
There is evidence of other Asian and European cultures coming to the Americas in prehistoric times, but I've never heard that those immigrants had established more than a foothold here and there or that they were displaced by those whom we now call Native Americans.
Response to 1monster (Reply #11)
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 06:59 PM
naaman fletcher (7,362 posts)
Am in middle of thangiving bender with other single dads who dont have kids so cant really do research right now
Response to NYC Liberal (Reply #8)
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:13 PM
jeff47 (24,401 posts)
15. Mostly the people who ended up South of them.
The Americas were initially settled in a few big waves. Generally, the new arrivals pushed the existing tribes South.
Response to 1monster (Original post)
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:46 PM
Igel (23,147 posts)
6. We have some idea as to what happened in various places.
In New England, the new-comers made handy allies in a war.
In Central America, the new-comers were picked up by a liberation organization activist out to fight the imperialist oppressors of his people.
That the new comers then turned on their former allies and bested them, as well, in military conquest (thus playing by their own rules--conquest yielded possession of the land) is, well, less unfortunate as entirely expected.
Even the tribes in Texas decided to make use of the Spanish in their effort to fight against the genocidal invaders known as the Apaches.
Response to Igel (Reply #6)
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 06:43 PM
Lasher (23,573 posts)
13. Comanches took the Apaches' territory to the north in the 1670s.
That's why displaced Apaches moved to south Texas. The Kiowa were pushed into Oklahoma and Arkansas by the invading Cheyenne and Sioux, who had been forced out of their lands in the great lakes regions by the Ojibwa tribes. But Comanches occupied Oklahoma and Arkansas at the time, so the Kiowas fought to take their land from them.