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Oh no. A Remake of Red Dawn (Original Post) Ilsa Nov 2012 OP
North Korea? That's who invades us? CanonRay Nov 2012 #1
I believe i read somewhere Libertas1776 Nov 2012 #6
NPR did a bit on this yesterday. Apparently, they hoped to be one of the 20 non-Chinese films Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #10
The movie is actually pretty good, if you know it's history aletier_v Nov 2012 #12
Yeah, that's gonna stretch my 'suspension of disbelief' so far the elastic will break. Edweird Nov 2012 #13
The path was cleared after the Kazakh navy routed the Seventh Fleet. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2012 #34
Wow that is going to be a hard sell. aandegoons Nov 2012 #2
Holy Shit! And I thought the first one was stupid. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2012 #3
Yeah. And This One Doesn't Have Powers Boothe In It. Paladin Nov 2012 #4
!!!!! BumRushDaShow Nov 2012 #21
I've been seeing the previews for a couple of months. SheilaT Nov 2012 #5
The first one was pretty silly right-wing Reagan-era paranoia deutsey Nov 2012 #7
The John Birch Society, the Koch brothers dad was a co-founder after making millions setting up oil bobthedrummer Nov 2012 #25
WOLVERINES!!!!!!!!!!!! nt pizzadave Nov 2012 #8
This film is gonna be a real . . . TomClash Nov 2012 #9
OT, but nice picture 0rganism Nov 2012 #33
North Korea as part of a coalition aletier_v Nov 2012 #11
wait, I remember in the first one newspeak Nov 2012 #29
It's been "in the can" for 3 years now Nevernose Nov 2012 #14
Also Libertas1776 Nov 2012 #16
As if the original wasn't bad enough hobbit709 Nov 2012 #15
You forgot the rest of the movie: tomg Nov 2012 #17
Hahaha. Does Obama greet them as liberators? JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #19
Actually, this might be turned into a teaching tool... JHB Nov 2012 #18
...or Gaza and the West Bank OneMoreDemocrat Nov 2012 #22
Buy the Video Game, too! Hayabusa Nov 2012 #20
GET SOME! bobthedrummer Nov 2012 #23
Jingo Highschool, Part Deux. Ooogada Boogada, Commies r comin'! DirkGently Nov 2012 #24
meatheads need a new boogeyman fascisthunter Nov 2012 #26
Sad to admit to a guilty pleasure, I liked the original. edbermac Nov 2012 #27
I'm with you. There are no bad Invasion USA movies. Not even "Invasion USA", that totally sucked. leveymg Nov 2012 #28
Russia is our biggest enemy Laochtine Nov 2012 #30
Okay. You made me look for the 1984 version and watch it for the first time. Panasonic Nov 2012 #31
Comic book culture. Zap! Pow! Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2012 #32

Libertas1776

(2,888 posts)
6. I believe i read somewhere
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:47 AM
Nov 2012

that the original invaders were the Chinese...but the movie producers, being the big capitalists that they are, didn't want to lose the very profitable Chinese market by having their movie banned over there. So, they changed the enemy to North Korea...supposedly after production. All the Chinese flags were digitally replaced with NK ones and any mention of China was re-dubbed with NK. Talk about a shitty script that can the main antagonists can be digitally replaced without an entire re-shoot.


also, rowboats haha

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
10. NPR did a bit on this yesterday. Apparently, they hoped to be one of the 20 non-Chinese films
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:01 AM
Nov 2012

allowed per year into this new bastion of capitalism. They aren't. And the film is being universally panned as even wore than the first.

aletier_v

(1,773 posts)
12. The movie is actually pretty good, if you know it's history
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:22 AM
Nov 2012

It's been languishing around for several years,
went through several changes.

I'm shocked it was as good as it was.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Dawn_(2012_film)

Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (MGM) announced their intentions to make a remake of Red Dawn in May 2008 and subsequently hired Bradley and Ellsworth. The principal characters were cast the following year and the film went into production in September 2009 in Mount Clemens, Michigan. Originally scheduled to be released on November 24, 2010, the film was shelved due to MGM's financial troubles. While in post-production, the invading army was changed from Chinese to North Korean in order to maintain access to China's box office. FilmDistrict bought the U.S. distribution rights from MGM in September 2011 and set a new release date.

 

Edweird

(8,570 posts)
13. Yeah, that's gonna stretch my 'suspension of disbelief' so far the elastic will break.
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:24 AM
Nov 2012

It'll never fit right again.

aandegoons

(473 posts)
2. Wow that is going to be a hard sell.
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:28 AM
Nov 2012

You are probably right about Walmart and the groceries. I wonder does red dawn come before or after black Friday.

BumRushDaShow

(127,325 posts)
21. !!!!!
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 11:40 AM
Nov 2012


OMG luckily the keyboard wasn't nearby when I got the visual... That's a name I haven't heard in forever.
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
5. I've been seeing the previews for a couple of months.
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:37 AM
Nov 2012

The original has a great first ten minutes, but after that was just hilariously bad.

I have a feeling this one will be the same. From what I gather from the previews, the set-up of how we get invaded is improbable in the extreme. Maybe technological not possible.

One huge problem I have with a lot of movies is that some important aspect that the plot revolves around just can't happen. Now, I'm not talking something in a science fiction film like time travel or faster than light drive, or a fantasy in which a person gets to see what the world would have been like had he not been born. No, those are the kinds of single things we all willingly suspend our disbelief about to get to the rest of the movie. They're okay.

But something like having a very dangerous criminal on a commercial airline flight, just so he can than take it over. People like that aren't allowed to fly commercially. Things like, one and only one person designed all the critical systems of an airplane so she can wind up wandering around the amazingly spacious behind-the-scenes electronics to thwart the bad guys. Those are just two that come to mind, but they happen so often that a lot of my friends don't like going to a movie with me because I'll carp endlessly about those things that to me bring a movie to a screeching halt.

And my problem isn't just that the plot flaws are in my opinion insurmountable, and yet the movie was made anyway. That's bad enough. But then, a lot of people will take what's presented on absolute faith, that what's shown is what can happen, or what does happen in real life. The show Myth Busters should be more widely watched.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
7. The first one was pretty silly right-wing Reagan-era paranoia
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:53 AM
Nov 2012

about Russia/Cuba/Nicaragua invading the US (if I remember the premise correctly)...but North Korea? Really?

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
25. The John Birch Society, the Koch brothers dad was a co-founder after making millions setting up oil
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 11:49 AM
Nov 2012

refineries for Stalin.

The John Birch Society Source Watch entry (The Center for Media and Democracy)
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/John_Birch_Society

0rganism

(23,856 posts)
33. OT, but nice picture
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 04:28 PM
Nov 2012

That bird is bringing it all, no question.

Gonna give the movie a pass, though.

aletier_v

(1,773 posts)
11. North Korea as part of a coalition
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:01 AM
Nov 2012

Which includes a restored Russia. We can'offend Chinese but Russians are fair game. PS there is a Powers Booth lookalike character and my audience was actually laughing at the final sad dramatic ending

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
29. wait, I remember in the first one
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 03:35 PM
Nov 2012

remember when the downed pilot tells the kids that china had joined with the US against the russians and cubans? so, the first movie was already setting up the alliance with china.

when i heard they were actually making a remake of the movie. I thought, "we've got to have more imagination and creativity to spend money on new movies instead of making paranoid retreads.

just great propaganda film. pravda would be proud.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
14. It's been "in the can" for 3 years now
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:25 AM
Nov 2012

Delayed for one year because of the China -> North Korea alteration, but still the studio didn't know what to do with it. The fact that it was filmed with a then- relatively unknown Chris Hemsworth, who is now a big star, has something to do with the release.

Libertas1776

(2,888 posts)
16. Also
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:46 AM
Nov 2012

i believe MGM originally produced it, but went bankrupt....so that gummed up the works even longer.

tomg

(2,574 posts)
17. You forgot the rest of the movie:
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 11:00 AM
Nov 2012

"Teenagers seek to save their town from an invasion of North Korean soldiers," but then they run out of weed and realize that for the past two hours they have been listening to John McCain on Fox News.

JohnnyRingo

(18,581 posts)
19. Hahaha. Does Obama greet them as liberators?
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 11:23 AM
Nov 2012

They have to throw in someting to get people into the theater. The rebels could be led by Kid Rock and Steven Baldwin.

JHB

(37,133 posts)
18. Actually, this might be turned into a teaching tool...
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 11:07 AM
Nov 2012

There's a line in the previews:
"To them this is just some place. To us, it's our home."


Sounds like a good reason for getting out of Afghanistan and staying out of Iran.

Hayabusa

(2,135 posts)
20. Buy the Video Game, too!
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 11:29 AM
Nov 2012

Homefront was released a year ago and was written by the writer of the original Red Dawn. It also features the North Koreans invading and a resistance cell being formed and joined by the main character.

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
26. meatheads need a new boogeyman
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 11:51 AM
Nov 2012

Last edited Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:56 PM - Edit history (1)

...makes their obsessive fears and anger necessary.

edbermac

(15,919 posts)
27. Sad to admit to a guilty pleasure, I liked the original.
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 12:02 PM
Nov 2012

By the guy who gave us Conan the Barbarian, fun in a very stupid way. The remake will be a dud.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
28. I'm with you. There are no bad Invasion USA movies. Not even "Invasion USA", that totally sucked.
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 12:26 PM
Nov 2012

Apparently, the classic WWIII America novel, "Alas, Babylon" was never made, and maybe this one shouldn't be sequeled.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
31. Okay. You made me look for the 1984 version and watch it for the first time.
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 04:16 PM
Nov 2012

I can see it's already laughably bad.

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