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Thu Nov 22, 2012, 08:23 AM

Oh no. A Remake of Red Dawn

"Teenagers seek to save their town from an invasion of North Korean soldiers,"

I figure they'd probably invade WalMart first for some groceries.

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Reply Oh no. A Remake of Red Dawn (Original post)
Ilsa Nov 2012 OP
CanonRay Nov 2012 #1
Libertas1776 Nov 2012 #6
Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #10
aletier_v Nov 2012 #12
Edweird Nov 2012 #13
Posteritatis Nov 2012 #34
aandegoons Nov 2012 #2
Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2012 #3
Paladin Nov 2012 #4
BumRushDaShow Nov 2012 #21
SheilaT Nov 2012 #5
deutsey Nov 2012 #7
bobthedrummer Nov 2012 #25
pizzadave Nov 2012 #8
TomClash Nov 2012 #9
0rganism Nov 2012 #33
aletier_v Nov 2012 #11
newspeak Nov 2012 #29
Nevernose Nov 2012 #14
Libertas1776 Nov 2012 #16
hobbit709 Nov 2012 #15
tomg Nov 2012 #17
JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #19
JHB Nov 2012 #18
OneMoreDemocrat Nov 2012 #22
Hayabusa Nov 2012 #20
bobthedrummer Nov 2012 #23
DirkGently Nov 2012 #24
fascisthunter Nov 2012 #26
edbermac Nov 2012 #27
leveymg Nov 2012 #28
Laochtine Nov 2012 #30
Panasonic Nov 2012 #31
Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2012 #32

Response to Ilsa (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 08:25 AM

1. North Korea? That's who invades us?

How lame can you get. How do they get here, rowboats?

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Response to CanonRay (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 08:47 AM

6. I believe i read somewhere

that the original invaders were the Chinese...but the movie producers, being the big capitalists that they are, didn't want to lose the very profitable Chinese market by having their movie banned over there. So, they changed the enemy to North Korea...supposedly after production. All the Chinese flags were digitally replaced with NK ones and any mention of China was re-dubbed with NK. Talk about a shitty script that can the main antagonists can be digitally replaced without an entire re-shoot.


also, rowboats haha

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Response to Libertas1776 (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:01 AM

10. NPR did a bit on this yesterday. Apparently, they hoped to be one of the 20 non-Chinese films

 

allowed per year into this new bastion of capitalism. They aren't. And the film is being universally panned as even wore than the first.

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Response to Egalitarian Thug (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:22 AM

12. The movie is actually pretty good, if you know it's history

It's been languishing around for several years,
went through several changes.

I'm shocked it was as good as it was.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Dawn_(2012_film)

Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (MGM) announced their intentions to make a remake of Red Dawn in May 2008 and subsequently hired Bradley and Ellsworth. The principal characters were cast the following year and the film went into production in September 2009 in Mount Clemens, Michigan. Originally scheduled to be released on November 24, 2010, the film was shelved due to MGM's financial troubles. While in post-production, the invading army was changed from Chinese to North Korean in order to maintain access to China's box office. FilmDistrict bought the U.S. distribution rights from MGM in September 2011 and set a new release date.

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Response to CanonRay (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:24 AM

13. Yeah, that's gonna stretch my 'suspension of disbelief' so far the elastic will break.

 

It'll never fit right again.

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Response to CanonRay (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 03:30 PM

34. The path was cleared after the Kazakh navy routed the Seventh Fleet. (nt)

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Response to Ilsa (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 08:28 AM

2. Wow that is going to be a hard sell.

You are probably right about Walmart and the groceries. I wonder does red dawn come before or after black Friday.

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Response to Ilsa (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 08:35 AM

3. Holy Shit! And I thought the first one was stupid. nt

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Response to Ilsa (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 08:36 AM

4. Yeah. And This One Doesn't Have Powers Boothe In It.


So what's the point?

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Response to Paladin (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:40 AM

21. !!!!!



OMG luckily the keyboard wasn't nearby when I got the visual... That's a name I haven't heard in forever.

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Response to Ilsa (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 08:37 AM

5. I've been seeing the previews for a couple of months.

The original has a great first ten minutes, but after that was just hilariously bad.

I have a feeling this one will be the same. From what I gather from the previews, the set-up of how we get invaded is improbable in the extreme. Maybe technological not possible.

One huge problem I have with a lot of movies is that some important aspect that the plot revolves around just can't happen. Now, I'm not talking something in a science fiction film like time travel or faster than light drive, or a fantasy in which a person gets to see what the world would have been like had he not been born. No, those are the kinds of single things we all willingly suspend our disbelief about to get to the rest of the movie. They're okay.

But something like having a very dangerous criminal on a commercial airline flight, just so he can than take it over. People like that aren't allowed to fly commercially. Things like, one and only one person designed all the critical systems of an airplane so she can wind up wandering around the amazingly spacious behind-the-scenes electronics to thwart the bad guys. Those are just two that come to mind, but they happen so often that a lot of my friends don't like going to a movie with me because I'll carp endlessly about those things that to me bring a movie to a screeching halt.

And my problem isn't just that the plot flaws are in my opinion insurmountable, and yet the movie was made anyway. That's bad enough. But then, a lot of people will take what's presented on absolute faith, that what's shown is what can happen, or what does happen in real life. The show Myth Busters should be more widely watched.

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Response to Ilsa (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 08:53 AM

7. The first one was pretty silly right-wing Reagan-era paranoia

about Russia/Cuba/Nicaragua invading the US (if I remember the premise correctly)...but North Korea? Really?

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Response to deutsey (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:49 AM

25. The John Birch Society, the Koch brothers dad was a co-founder after making millions setting up oil

refineries for Stalin.

The John Birch Society Source Watch entry (The Center for Media and Democracy)
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/John_Birch_Society

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Response to Ilsa (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 08:57 AM

8. WOLVERINES!!!!!!!!!!!! nt

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Response to Ilsa (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 08:59 AM

9. This film is gonna be a real . . .

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Response to TomClash (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 03:28 PM

33. OT, but nice picture

That bird is bringing it all, no question.

Gonna give the movie a pass, though.

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Response to Ilsa (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:01 AM

11. North Korea as part of a coalition

Which includes a restored Russia. We can'offend Chinese but Russians are fair game. PS there is a Powers Booth lookalike character and my audience was actually laughing at the final sad dramatic ending

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:35 PM

29. wait, I remember in the first one

remember when the downed pilot tells the kids that china had joined with the US against the russians and cubans? so, the first movie was already setting up the alliance with china.

when i heard they were actually making a remake of the movie. I thought, "we've got to have more imagination and creativity to spend money on new movies instead of making paranoid retreads.

just great propaganda film. pravda would be proud.

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Response to Ilsa (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:25 AM

14. It's been "in the can" for 3 years now

Delayed for one year because of the China -> North Korea alteration, but still the studio didn't know what to do with it. The fact that it was filmed with a then- relatively unknown Chris Hemsworth, who is now a big star, has something to do with the release.

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Response to Nevernose (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:46 AM

16. Also

i believe MGM originally produced it, but went bankrupt....so that gummed up the works even longer.

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Response to Ilsa (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:30 AM

15. As if the original wasn't bad enough

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Response to Ilsa (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:00 AM

17. You forgot the rest of the movie:

"Teenagers seek to save their town from an invasion of North Korean soldiers," but then they run out of weed and realize that for the past two hours they have been listening to John McCain on Fox News.

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Response to tomg (Reply #17)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:23 AM

19. Hahaha. Does Obama greet them as liberators?

They have to throw in someting to get people into the theater. The rebels could be led by Kid Rock and Steven Baldwin.

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Response to Ilsa (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:07 AM

18. Actually, this might be turned into a teaching tool...

There's a line in the previews:
"To them this is just some place. To us, it's our home."


Sounds like a good reason for getting out of Afghanistan and staying out of Iran.

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Response to JHB (Reply #18)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:41 AM

22. ...or Gaza and the West Bank

 

for that matter.

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Response to Ilsa (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:29 AM

20. Buy the Video Game, too!

Homefront was released a year ago and was written by the writer of the original Red Dawn. It also features the North Koreans invading and a resistance cell being formed and joined by the main character.

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Response to Ilsa (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:42 AM

23. GET SOME!


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Response to Ilsa (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:46 AM

24. Jingo Highschool, Part Deux. Ooogada Boogada, Commies r comin'!

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Response to Ilsa (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:51 AM

26. meatheads need a new boogeyman

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...makes their obsessive fears and anger necessary.

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Response to Ilsa (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 11:02 AM

27. Sad to admit to a guilty pleasure, I liked the original.

By the guy who gave us Conan the Barbarian, fun in a very stupid way. The remake will be a dud.

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Response to edbermac (Reply #27)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 11:26 AM

28. I'm with you. There are no bad Invasion USA movies. Not even "Invasion USA", that totally sucked.

Apparently, the classic WWIII America novel, "Alas, Babylon" was never made, and maybe this one shouldn't be sequeled.

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Response to Ilsa (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 03:00 PM

30. Russia is our biggest enemy

according to the gop

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Response to Ilsa (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 03:16 PM

31. Okay. You made me look for the 1984 version and watch it for the first time.

 

I can see it's already laughably bad.

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Response to Ilsa (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 03:23 PM

32. Comic book culture. Zap! Pow!

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