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Wed Nov 21, 2012, 07:24 PM

neighbor's kill family's pet turkey for Thanksgiving meal, arrested, held on 57K bond

Thieves kill family's pet turkey for Thanksgiving meal, officers say

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“He was a family pet,” she said. “It was like having a normal family dog.”

But when her husband got up early Monday morning to feed the animals, the 30-pound Tom was missing.

He soon discovered a trail of blood and feathers and feared the worst.

Then, upon looking at a recording from a security camera on the property, he saw one man stealing Tom and another running along the fence line.

Monday, two Santa Rosa County men, one of them a neighbor, were charged with stealing the bird and using a bow and arrow to kill it.

Santa Rosa County sheriff’s deputies arrested Joshua W. Anderson, 19, and Jacob H. Provo, 18, who live near the Caponis. They are charged with armed burglary, armed trespassing, theft of livestock and animal cruelty.

They admitted that they planned to eat Tom for Thanksgiving and were on the way to butcher it when they were arrested.

http://www.pnj.com/article/20121121/NEWS01/311210023?nclick_check=1

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Reply neighbor's kill family's pet turkey for Thanksgiving meal, arrested, held on 57K bond (Original post)
Liberal_in_LA Nov 2012 OP
MrSlayer Nov 2012 #1
exboyfil Nov 2012 #3
MrSlayer Nov 2012 #4
jackbenimble Nov 2012 #7
exboyfil Nov 2012 #9
MrSlayer Nov 2012 #10
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #11
MrSlayer Nov 2012 #13
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #14
MrSlayer Nov 2012 #15
DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #2
flvegan Nov 2012 #20
upi402 Nov 2012 #5
jackbenimble Nov 2012 #6
ROBROX Nov 2012 #8
jsmirman Nov 2012 #12
sorefeet Nov 2012 #16
Liberal_in_LA Nov 2012 #19
Matariki Nov 2012 #17
Gold Metal Flake Nov 2012 #18

Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 07:26 PM

1. Stupid kids.

 

Sometimes you have to learn the hard way. A shame for the family and poor Tom.

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Response to MrSlayer (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 07:39 PM

3. They are not kids

They are adults and hopefully will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Going armed onto someone's property is serious. What would have happened if they encountered the owner? Someone would have ended up dead. Killing the family pet? You can only shake your head. I always worry when we leave our dogs alone in the house. Thieves can have anything put please leave our dogs alone.

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 07:51 PM

4. They're 18 and 19.

 

Yeah, legally they're adults but they're not really adults. My kids' friends hang at my house all the time and there isn't one of them I'd consider an adult. You just don't have any life experience at that age. I also know how I was at that age. Granted, I didn't kill anyone's pets but no sane person would have considered me an adult. There's a big difference between 18 and 30. They're kids.

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Response to MrSlayer (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:03 PM

7. They're old enough to know better.

No excuses.

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Response to jackbenimble (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:25 PM

9. Agree we used to expect 16 year olds

to work, marry, etc. I think infantilizing older teens as a huge problem in this country. That is a big reason why they go on college campuses without a clue as to what they want to accomplish. I think is a suitable cut off age for the process. You vote at that age so you should have the discernment to behave in a civilized fashion. You also can enter into legal contracts at that age. We give 18 year olds the power of life and death in the military as well. We give 15 year olds the ability to operate an extremely dangerous piece of equipment (a car).

I also think 18 year olds should have the right to drink and buy pot.

Any school system that does not work to ensure maturity and a civic conscious in their students is guilty of malfeasance. The same can be said for the parents and the other social structures in our society.

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Response to jackbenimble (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:26 PM

10. Probably, yes.

 

But they obviously weren't wise enough for that to matter.

That's why they're going to learn the hard way.

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Response to MrSlayer (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:29 PM

11. Sorry, legally they are both adults

We need to stop infantilizing young men, which s what they are.

Fr the record I used to train 18 year olds to take care of other people in medical emergencies.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:39 PM

13. I did point that out but it doesn't mean what it once did.

 

The fact is that it's not the 50's and 60's anymore. Those ways are gone. No one expects a 16 year old kid to take on the responsibilities of a grown man or woman these days. People don't get married or go to work at the mill or whatever at that age. There is no draft anymore so young kids arent going into the military to be "made into men" either. People live much longer now and the kids are far better off than they were back in the day. Subsequently you can put off adulthood indefinitely and people do. If 60 is the new 40 then 25 is the new 18. Maybe even 30.

We're an immature society compared to the old days for sure.

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Response to MrSlayer (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:45 PM

14. So, by that logic, let's raise the voting age to 25

And I am not kidding.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:51 PM

15. It might not be the worst thing to do considering.

 

They only lowered it because of the Vietnam draft. And that was in a time where an 18 year old was reasonably (as compared to today) mature.

But that would hurt us in elections since younger people are more likely to be liberal and older folks are the most likely voters. It's a tough call there.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 07:36 PM

2. The family should give the punks' addreses to PETA

Those crazy fuckers would make those punks' life miserable.

You wouldn't believe the stunts PETA pulls out here.

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Response to DollarBillHines (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:38 AM

20. Already in the works.

But not through PETA.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:02 PM

6. That's the spirit...

Be thankful your neighbors have something you can steal.

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with people these days? I read an article in a local paper today about a man and woman waking up to see an 18 year old neighbor standing over them. He had crawled in through an unlocked window apparently with the intent to assault the woman. I'd like to think it is an anomaly but I keep hearing about so many crimes being committed by young men in this age group that I'm starting to think my generation raised a bunch of kids without boundaries.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:13 PM

8. I live in NORCAL

 

we have turkeys all over the place and I do not plan to shot one bird.

I say those guys should do hard time and pay cash to the people they offended.

Crazy people like this do not belong in our society. Maybe Texas would be a better place for those to roost.

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Response to ROBROX (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:36 PM

12. I agree

you killed your neighbor's pet. Fucking come on.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:55 PM

16. The creeps did it here in Billings

they crawled through a newly installed doggy door to rob the place. The owner said the dog probably just wanted to play ball with the intruders, but instead they beat the little guy so bad the owner had to put him down. Despite a reward they haven't caught them yet.

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Response to sorefeet (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 11:49 PM

19. that's so sad.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:02 PM

17. That reminds me when my dad gave away my pet duck to some neighbors

I'd go visit it through their fence. It disappeared around Thanksgiving.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:12 PM

18. "...one of them a neighbor..."

Awkward.

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