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Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:14 PM

3rd person dies from wild mushroom poisoning at Northern California senior care facility

LOOMIS, Calif. A third person has died from eating toxic mushrooms at a California senior care facility, authorities said Wednesday.

The person, whose name was not released, died on Saturday, state Department of Social Services spokesman Oscar Ramirez told The Associated Press.

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The caretaker who prepared the soup, who was among those sickened, apparently picked the mushrooms from the backyard of the six-bed care facility and did not know they were poisonous.

Investigators were quickly able to pinpoint the soup as the source of the poisonings because the only person living at the home who did not eat dinner that night did not fall ill, authorities have said.

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Reply 3rd person dies from wild mushroom poisoning at Northern California senior care facility (Original post)
cali Nov 2012 OP
Liberal_in_LA Nov 2012 #1
Cleita Nov 2012 #3
cali Nov 2012 #4
catbyte Nov 2012 #5
loli phabay Nov 2012 #19
XemaSab Nov 2012 #20
catbyte Nov 2012 #23
Major Nikon Nov 2012 #13
opiate69 Nov 2012 #15
Major Nikon Nov 2012 #16
opiate69 Nov 2012 #37
CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2012 #2
Scuba Nov 2012 #6
closeupready Nov 2012 #8
oldhippydude Nov 2012 #10
closeupready Nov 2012 #11
tabasco Nov 2012 #26
Major Nikon Nov 2012 #14
Scuba Nov 2012 #17
Major Nikon Nov 2012 #18
Scuba Nov 2012 #21
Major Nikon Nov 2012 #22
catbyte Nov 2012 #33
Major Nikon Nov 2012 #38
ElboRuum Nov 2012 #28
Berserker Nov 2012 #29
catbyte Nov 2012 #34
Odin2005 Nov 2012 #35
Scuba Nov 2012 #40
backscatter712 Nov 2012 #7
oldhippydude Nov 2012 #9
HopeHoops Nov 2012 #12
Earth_First Nov 2012 #25
HopeHoops Nov 2012 #30
HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #31
HopeHoops Nov 2012 #32
JaneyVee Nov 2012 #24
catbyte Nov 2012 #36
DiverDave Nov 2012 #42
ElboRuum Nov 2012 #27
Retrograde Nov 2012 #39
DiverDave Nov 2012 #41

Response to cali (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:16 PM

1. don't EVER pick mushrooms for food unless you have a Ph.D. in Mushroom_ology

seriously

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:20 PM

3. Definitely wild mushrooms.

Sometimes, I'm even wary of the cultivated ones you buy in the store. I really wish there were labeling laws that tell you exactly which farm they were grown on just to keep the growers honest.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:20 PM

4. Mycology and you are so right. You really need to know what you're doing.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:22 PM

5. There are only 2 kinds of wild mushrooms I will eat--morels & fairy rings

And with fairy rings, never, ever eat a mushroom that doesn't have tan gills! Oh I do eat puffballs if they're small enough but like with fairy rings avoid golf courses etc that might dump chemicals on grass. My dad was a mushroom expert and he would bring shrooms home I would never trust myself to pick.

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Response to catbyte (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:18 PM

19. puffballs are good so are the bracket fungi on the trees.

 

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Response to catbyte (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:22 PM

20. Puffballs are the ones that will get you

A baby amanita looks just like a puffball. For real.

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Response to XemaSab (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:36 PM

23. I never pick them unless there are large ones near. they have a distinct odor too

I don't know if we have Amanitas in Michigan, but I am very careful with mushrooms.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 06:47 PM

13. It's not that hard to tell the difference if you know what you are doing

It's just that the consequences from fucking up can be quite high. There's lots of amateur wild mushroom hunters out there who have no problems whatsoever.

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 06:58 PM

15. I was supposed to start mushroom hunting this fall..

My friend has been a master forager for i think 30 years..but it looks like the season isn`t turning out.

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Response to opiate69 (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 07:10 PM

16. I've been with some help

It's not something I'm prepared to do on my own, but I don't think it would be that hard to learn. There are field guides which help with identification, but it doesn't strike me as something you can just learn from a book.

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:07 PM

37. Oh yeah...

I won't even so much as touch a wild mushroom unless Neal's with me saying it's good to go lol.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:18 PM

2. Oh, how awful.

This is so very sad...

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Response to cali (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:23 PM

6. The only wild mushrooms I'll eat are morels. They're unmistakable...



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Response to Scuba (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:27 PM

8. In France, they sell all kinds of fungi fresh in street

markets all over the city (Paris, Lyons, other cities). Fresh morels are just delicious.

Some of them are scary looking, orange or weird shapes, but even though they sell lots of them at the markets, not sure that they have much of a problem with food poisoning such as in the opening story here.

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Response to closeupready (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:38 PM

10. yes French are noted for their loose morels

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Response to oldhippydude (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:48 PM

11. Oh yeah? Well a chanterelle walks into a bar, sits down and orders a drink.

The bartender says, "We don't serve mushrooms here." The mushroom says, "Why not?! I'm a fun guy!"

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Response to closeupready (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:45 PM

26. Good one. n/t

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 07:52 PM

17. Looks nothing like a real morel.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:13 PM

18. Better pictures



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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:27 PM

21. The bottom pic is a morel; the top pic is something else....

... but it's easy to see how they could be confused.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:31 PM

22. It's that way with many different types of mushrooms

If you know what to look for, indentifying the good from the bad isn't all that difficult. If you don't know what to look for, you wind up killing old people.

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:40 PM

33. I grew up eating false morels too and never got sick. Quite different, cap separate &

stem has white cottony stuff inside. Never saw much difference between those & true morels. They taste the same too. True morels have a meatier texture. I was shocked when I read they were supposed to be poisonous.


Maybe Indians are immune?!?

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Response to catbyte (Reply #33)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:30 PM

38. Lots of people seem to be eating them with few detrimental effects

Some of that seems to be related to tolerance and preparation, but their toxins don't appear to be completely removeable and they can kill you.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:13 PM

29. I love morels too BUT

 

there is a variety that is not hollow but solid inside and very slimy that look like morels. They are called false morels. But as a mushroom hunter they are easily detectible if you know what to look for.

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Response to Berserker (Reply #29)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:44 PM

34. That looks like what my folks called a Beefsteak mushroom. Rarer than morels. Yum!

I don't recall that white stem tho. What my folks picked was essentially stemless.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:47 PM

35. Morels are Minnesota's state fungus!

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #35)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 04:33 AM

40. Great choice, like Wellstone or Franken!!! False morels would be Bachmann.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:23 PM

7. All mushrooms are edible. Some only once. n/t

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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:36 PM

9. tha'ts enough to anamtia myscaria

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Response to cali (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 06:36 PM

12. Even experienced mushroom hunters die from eating the wrong kind.

 

EVERY edible mushroom has a look-alike that's poisonous. The only way to tell is by taking a spore print. Curiously, the opposite is NOT true. There's no edible look-alike for a destroying angel. One lick of a destroying angel will likely knock out your liver and kidneys. DAMN are they pretty though - I actually saw one in the woods illuminated by a sun beam. I know how it got its name now.

Even the psychotropic mushrooms have poisonous (deadly) look-alike equivalents. Still, the "Audubon Society Field Guide to North American Mushrooms" lists the psychotropics as poisonous. Symptoms include visions, hilarity, unmotivated laughter, etc. and ends with "The victim should be assured that the symptoms will pass."

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Response to HopeHoops (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:41 PM

25. "The victim should be assured that the symptoms will pass."

I've told myself this many late nights at a concert or two...

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Response to Earth_First (Reply #25)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:17 PM

30. I only did mushrooms once. It was weird, but yes, the symptoms did pass.

 

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Response to HopeHoops (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:22 PM

31. There are old mushroom hunters, and bold mushroom hunters but there are no

old bold mushroom hunters.

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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #31)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:25 PM

32. I've heard that before and it's true. Mushroom toxins go straight for vital organs.

 

It's weird, I know, but they strike directly at the most vital organs. There's no cure. BOOM! You're dead.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:37 PM

24. Bleeding Tooth fungus





Looks delicious, tastes like death.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #24)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:53 PM

36. I wouldn't go near that thing, lol

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #24)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 05:04 AM

42. That looks like something from

an alien planet.
I expect eyelids to close over the red 'eyes'.
I'm gonna have nightmares about these things...

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Response to cali (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:01 PM

27. Why would anyone even THINK of doing this?

"apparently picked the mushrooms from the backyard of the six-bed care facility and did not know they were poisonous"

Yes, because it is very difficult for a person untrained at identifying wild mushroom species to know which ones are poisonous and which are not. Many edible varieties bear striking similarity to poisonous ones and unless you know what you're looking for, you can easily poison yourself.

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Response to ElboRuum (Reply #27)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:04 PM

39. I've found mushrooms in my yard that I was 95% sure were chantrelles

but I didn't eat them because of that nagging 5% chance they were something else entirely.

My father's uncle - raised in Poland - like wild mushrooms, and when he was in his 70s used to have me scramble under the trees to fetch the Amanitas. He showed me some of the subtle differences between the edible and poisonous kind, but I was never confident enough to try them on my own, and that was on the other side of the continent anyway.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 05:00 AM

41. These where the only shrooms I would pick myself

And consume.
They grew all over the cow pastures in the Willamette valley.
We had a few FARRRRRR out parties on these little morsels







I will echo everyone else here, DONT eat mushrooms you cannot identify as safe, even if they "look sorta like" the one in the book in your hand.
Make DAMNED sure before you eat them.

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