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Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:05 AM

Great news that the Milwaukee prosecutors seem to have snared Walker, BUT

the state Dems would be well-advised to just keep their mouths shut about the issue and let the investigations roll along.

The prosecutors obviously know what they're doing, and are moving strategically with great deliberation and care.

The Democrats can best serve the process by staying out of it. To do otherwise risks giving the whole thing the appearance of a political witch-hunt.

When Walker gets indicted, we want it to be clear that he was brought down as a consequence of his criminal misdeeds, not because a bunch of pissed-off soreheads are taking revenge after a failed recall campaign.

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Reply Great news that the Milwaukee prosecutors seem to have snared Walker, BUT (Original post)
Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 OP
Flashmann Nov 2012 #1
Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #2
Texin Nov 2012 #20
Sadiedog Nov 2012 #26
Panasonic Nov 2012 #4
TahitiNut Nov 2012 #25
SkyDaddy7 Nov 2012 #16
Flashmann Nov 2012 #18
ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #28
CanonRay Nov 2012 #3
ewagner Nov 2012 #5
Auntie Bush Nov 2012 #6
Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #10
SoCalDem Nov 2012 #14
CanonRay Nov 2012 #15
SkyDaddy7 Nov 2012 #17
oldbanjo Nov 2012 #23
1-Old-Man Nov 2012 #7
randome Nov 2012 #8
Myrina Nov 2012 #9
Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #11
pscot Nov 2012 #12
NBachers Nov 2012 #22
Blue Owl Nov 2012 #13
Coyotl Nov 2012 #19
AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #21
CitizenPatriot Nov 2012 #24
Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #27

Response to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:08 AM

1. When Walker gets indicted

What a beautiful arrangement of words......They roll so smoothly from ones tongue.....

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Response to Flashmann (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:15 AM

2. I'm rather enamored of the phrase myself.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:16 PM

20. It does have a pretty ring about it, doesn't it? Felt the same way when it happened to De Lay too.

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Response to Texin (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:56 PM

26. Oh man forgot all about De Lay! nt

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Response to Flashmann (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:27 AM

4. I want Scott Walker wetting himself in fear of prison.

 

And the judge orders remand, no bail for Scott Walker.

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Response to Panasonic (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:52 PM

25. I share that desire ... and want video, as well.


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Response to Flashmann (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:58 AM

16. I would really like to know...

How anyone could possibly know enough to say "When Walker gets indicted"...I am sorry but i don't get any satisfaction in wishful thinking which at this point is all this is & nothing more.

I will dance with joy "IF" Walker gets indicted but until then what is the point of acting like we already know he will.

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Response to SkyDaddy7 (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:06 PM

18. How anyone could possibly know enough

Yeah..I don't know either......The fact remains,though,that those words."When Walker gets indicted", bring me much pleasure to see/hear/read/say....I really can't fathom how you extrapolate that I might be "acting like I already know he will",simply from my comment that those words have a nice sound.....I know,absolutely,that I said nothing of the sort,and I'm moderately certain I didn't type anything between the lines......

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Response to Flashmann (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:56 PM

28. K&R nt

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:25 AM

3. They can comment to their hearts content

AFTER the indictment.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:28 AM

5. You 'ol Silver-tongued devil!

The prosecutors laid out a case against Walker in their summation of reason for a stiff sentence...

I was particularly struck by two terms used:

1. "The Campaign Group"; and
2. "... directed by Walker..."

Those two phrases give me reason to hope that he will, in fact, be indicted.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:33 AM

6. If he's in danger of being indicted...why would he

making plans to run in 2016? He seems to be pretty sure that won't happen...so let's not get our hopes up. I agree...best we stay completely out of it...give him lots of rope too.

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Response to Auntie Bush (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:48 AM

10. The easiest answer from a psychological perspective

is that psychopaths don't give any consideration to potential negative consequences.

In one classic study, people were told they would get an electric shock at a specific time, and watched a clock as the moment of the shock approached. Normals showed increasing psychophysiological agitation (increased electrodermal response, heart rate accelerated, muscle tension increased, breathing became more rapid & shallow) as the moment approached. The psychopaths (as measured by Hare's original Pscyhopathy Checklist) showed none of these signs. On the second and subsequent trials, the normals escalated on all the physiological measures, and the psychopaths continued to remain calm even after previous experience had proved to them that the shock was really coming.

Numerous subsequent studies have showed that psychopaths will increase the strength of rewarded behaviors, but will not learn to inhibit punished behaviors.



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Response to Auntie Bush (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:31 AM

14. His term is up in 2014 (Thank Goodness)

I hope he is indicted and run out of town on a rail..

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Response to Auntie Bush (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:48 AM

15. They don't live in a reality based world

Romney was going to win, remember?

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Response to Auntie Bush (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:59 AM

17. I agree 100%!!

Too many folks are engaged in wishful thinking.

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Response to Auntie Bush (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:37 PM

23. Why did Romney think he would be President.

He isn't the smartest person that I know.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:41 AM

7. A link that told us something about the investigation and maybe one about Democratic intrusion?

Because as I sit here in West Virginia I do not have a clue what you are talking about. It might be all the rage in your local news but for those of us in the rest of the country a little background information would be awfully helpful.

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Response to 1-Old-Man (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:42 AM

8. Yes, it would.

I would love to celebrate Walker's ouster.

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Response to 1-Old-Man (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:42 AM

9. +100

Thank you.

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Response to 1-Old-Man (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:05 AM

12. Link

http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/capitol-report/milwaukee-prosecutor-uses-calculated-move-to-introduce-walker-into-sentencing/article_e166116c-3364-11e2-a34d-001a4bcf887a.html

"Days after Gov. Scott Walker delivered speeches at national Republican events unveiling more of the hard-line, conservative policies he has come to be known for, a Milwaukee County prosecutor for the first time publicly connected the dots between the illegal activities of Walker’s former aides and staffers and the governor himself.

Monday was the first time during the secret John Doe investigation that began in May 2010 that evidence was presented in court that showed Walker was not only privy to, but involved in, daily meetings that combined campaign efforts for his run for governor and county employees.

“There are a lot of questions Scott Walker, himself, should answer,” says Graeme Zielinski, a spokesman with the Wisconsin Democratic Party. “We now know that he was directly involved in a criminal culture. Some of these activities are no longer speculative. They are now on the record.”

The move to reveal information specific to the John Doe investigation that would lead to Walker’s name being presented in court began nearly a year ago and is being cited by one former prosecutor as a calculated move to, among other things, introduce additional information to the judge and the public."


Top Walker aide Kelly Rindfleisch was sentenced yesterday to 6 months prison and 3 years probation. Prosecutors are still investigating "John Doe" and Democrats in the ledge are yammering for Walker to be named.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:14 AM

13. Focker = John D'oh

Do the crime, serve the time -- throw that bastid in the klink!

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:10 PM

19. I'm still waiting to hear if the Milwaukee Anomaly has been solved?

And if it gets pinned on Walker!

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:22 PM

21. When is this happy event going to occur?

 

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:42 PM

24. While I agree in theory

there is no action or lack of action that will stop Republicans from claiming this is a witch hunt and since democrats are usually so silent trying to be nice/civil/play fair, Republicans get to set the narrative.

They are bullies.

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Response to CitizenPatriot (Reply #24)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:54 PM

27. There is nothing to be gained by shooting off their mouths at this point,

and something to be lost, in that it is easier for people to dismiss the "witch hunt" story if the Dems aren't baying like hounds.

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