I was just watching the Charlie Rose show

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and they were going to discuss the conflict between Palestine and Israel. One of the guests was going to be Elliott Abrams. I couldn't change the channel fast enough.

Why is Abrams still being considered to be an authority on anything? He should be in jail for war crimes along with all his neo-con friends. Elliott Fucking Abrams! Fuck! Wasn't he one of the architects of PNAC?

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1. Yes,

Elliott Abrams Gary Bauer William J. Bennett Jeb Bush Dick Cheney Eliot A. Cohen Midge Decter Paula Dobriansky Steve Forbes Aaron Friedberg , etc etc etc.

Watched; gritted my teeth, almost punched tv. Ross not very useful. Other guy (sorry, forget his name) by far most rational.

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2. Never could comprehend Charlie Rose.

Born on the wrong side of the tracks and always seemed to be most impressed by those with ill-gotten fame and fortune.

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3. He was Under-Secretary of State for Latin America

Under Reagan and involved with the whole sordid US war on Central America. Even before Iraq he was evil, along with Jeanne, Jeanne the Death squad Queen Kirkpatrick.

I watched the show though. What's really scary is how much Dennis Ross, and therefore the standard US view, conformed with Abrams.