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Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:54 AM

This is a big fucking deal: Happy 70th Birthday VP Joe Biden!

https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/270894831100887040/photo/1

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Reply This is a big fucking deal: Happy 70th Birthday VP Joe Biden! (Original post)
meegbear Nov 2012 OP
Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2012 #1
DemoTex Nov 2012 #19
etherealtruth Nov 2012 #30
proverbialwisdom Nov 2012 #2
William769 Nov 2012 #3
Royal Sloan 09 Nov 2012 #4
JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #5
dmr Nov 2012 #7
glinda Nov 2012 #6
malaise Nov 2012 #8
blaze Nov 2012 #9
Brigid Nov 2012 #10
SnowCritter Nov 2012 #12
handmade34 Nov 2012 #11
TuxedoKat Nov 2012 #13
gateley Nov 2012 #14
Euphoria Nov 2012 #15
Patiod Nov 2012 #16
sheshe2 Nov 2012 #17
Third Doctor Nov 2012 #18
skeewee08 Nov 2012 #20
James48 Nov 2012 #21
Jim Lane Nov 2012 #23
James48 Nov 2012 #36
Jim Lane Nov 2012 #37
James48 Nov 2012 #38
Jim Lane Nov 2012 #39
No Vested Interest Nov 2012 #22
Cha Nov 2012 #33
Hugin Nov 2012 #24
EmeraldCityGrl Nov 2012 #25
greatauntoftriplets Nov 2012 #26
psychmommy Nov 2012 #27
dimbear Nov 2012 #28
graywarrior Nov 2012 #29
Cha Nov 2012 #32
graywarrior Nov 2012 #34
meegbear Nov 2012 #35
Cha Nov 2012 #31

Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:07 AM

1. Jeebus, I hope Iook that good at 70.

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Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:31 PM

19. My reaction, too. 70? NO WAY!

Happy Birthday, Mr. Vice-President!

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Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:03 PM

30. He does look excellent ... for fifty, much less 70!

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:09 AM

2. Great photo, K&R!

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:09 AM

3. Happy Bitrthday!

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:25 AM

4. Happy Birthday, VP Biden!

70!! Really Dude ya lookin' Good, must be the good livin' Enjoy your B-Day, Sir!

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:31 AM

5. Here's the picture!



What a great picture of two great men! Happy Birthday Mr. Vice-President!



Julie

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Response to JNelson6563 (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:14 PM

7. This picture makes me laugh out loud!


Makes me wonder what they've got up their sleeves.

I love their smiles.

Happy birthday, Mr. Biden.

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:49 AM

6. Happy Birthday Mr. VP.

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:24 PM

8. Yes indeed

Happy Birthday VP Joe Biden !!

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:39 PM

9. The comradarie between these two

is so obvious in all the photos that get posted. You just can't fake that kind of "like"

Happy B-Day Joe!!!! We're so glad you're there.

More than you may ever know.

And yes. It's a BFD!!!!!

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:40 PM

10. Happy birthday, Mr. Vice President!

Love the photo! It just cries out for a caption by EarlG.

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Response to Brigid (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:45 PM

12. Something like

"Remember when Mitt said..."

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:45 PM

11. Happy Birthday!

I Love You VP Joe Biden

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:50 PM

13. Happy Birthday Mr. Vice President!

Hope you have a wonderful day!

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:04 PM

14. What a team! I love that they have truly become friends!

Happy Birthday, Joe -- I wish you love and happiness.

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:08 PM

15. Happy birthday Mr Vice President Biden

You've had our backs and Obama's back the whole time.
We love ya!

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:10 PM

16. Happy Birthday! Keep Amtrak alive for us, Mr Biden!

You just know Romney would have gutted Amtrak like he wanted to gut the Post Office, but Fightin' Joe will NEVER let that happen on his watch!

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:13 PM

17. Happy Birthday Joe!

Excellent picture of 2 Great Men. Thank you for your service to our country!

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:15 PM

18. Happy B-day Joe!

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:35 PM

20. Happy Birthday VP Joe Biden.....

70 years young....looking good....

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:43 PM

21. you know...I've been thinking. Hillary says no. So....here's an idea.




Why not?

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Response to James48 (Reply #21)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:41 PM

23. Unless you want Michelle to run, your ticket isn't legal.

The VP must be someone who's eligible to be President. By 2016, Barack Obama won't be eligible, having served two terms.

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Response to Jim Lane (Reply #23)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:26 AM

36. Yes, it is perfectly legal.

The 22nd Amendment doesn't prohibit a former president from running for VICE president.
It only prohibits him from being elected again as President.

See?

"Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

Section 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress."

It would be LEGAL to have Barack and Joe switch for 2016, and, in the unlikely event anything ever happened to Joe, then Barack COULD legally become President again, under terms of the 25th Amendment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

Whether or not America would go for that, I don't know. I DO know it would be perfectly legal if they did.

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Response to James48 (Reply #36)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:35 PM

37. You missed the Twelfth Amendment.

The last sentence, after describing the procedure for election of a Vice President, states: "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

I think I've seen this idea floated as to both Reagan and Clinton, who ended their second terms with high approval ratings and might well have won a third term if eligible. The idea was that the incumbent President could run for Vice President with a running mate whose platform was a promise to resign immediately after being inaugurated. This doesn't work, because of the Twelfth Amendment.

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Response to Jim Lane (Reply #37)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:28 PM

38. Read it again

There is nothing which Constitutionally prohibits Obama from being eligible FOR THE OFFICE oF President (Only requires age of 35, and a natural born citizen to HOLD the office, and have been a U.S. resident for 14 years).

The 22nd only says he cannot be ELECTED. It doesn't say he cannot be elevated by a way OTHER THAN ELECTION.

Qualifications for the Office of President

Age and Citizenship requirements - US Constitution, Article II, Section 1

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.

Term limit amendment - US Constitution, Amendment XXII, Section 1 ratified February 27, 1951

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

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Response to James48 (Reply #38)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 01:40 AM

39. My guess is that your interpretation would not be accepted by the courts.

As John Marshall said, the nature of the Constitution

requires that only its great outlines should be marked, its important objects designated, and the minor ingredients which compose those objects be deduced from the nature of the objects themselves. . . . . In considering this question, then, we must never forget that it is a Constitution that we are expounding. (McCulloch v. Maryland, 4 Wheat. 316, 407 (1819)).


A court would be likely to rule that the relevant amendments didn't specifically spell out that Obama couldn't serve a third term by the type of arrangement you describe, but that saying so didn't end the inquiry. Reading the provisions to bar an Obama candidacy for Vice President would be an example of deducing minor ingredients from the nature of the objects of the provisions.

There's very little chance that we'll ever find out how the courts would rule on this question. All I can tell you is that, looking at all these provisions, and bearing in mind what I've seen of courts in action, I would offer steep odds that Obama would be held to be ineligible for election or appointment to the Vice Presidency. The alternative, requiring a literal-mindedness run amok, is not how courts actually function, especially in the realm of constitutional law.

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:59 PM

22. Yes, All best wishes

to VP Joe Biden.
I loved it when the President called him "America's Happy Warrior" in his victory speech Nov. 6. So apt.
I never knew our original Dem. Happy Warrior - Al Smith- but doubt that he could have out-laughed our Joe Biden.

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Response to No Vested Interest (Reply #22)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:41 PM

33. Thanks for that, N V I! nm

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:44 PM

24. Happy B-day, Joe!

Hope you like the present we got you!

Four more years!

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:45 PM

25. Biden makes 70 look great! Happy Birthday Joe.

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:52 PM

26. A really BFD!!!

Happy birthday, Vice President Biden.

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:56 PM

27. Happy bday Veep.

You are a very special man and you are much loved. I wish you many more.

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:59 PM

28. Could say many happy returns but Joe got them earlier this month. n/t

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:00 PM

29. My birthday too!

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Response to graywarrior (Reply #29)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:38 PM

32. Happy Birthday, Graywarrior!

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Response to Cha (Reply #32)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:48 PM

34. Thanks, Cha!

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Response to graywarrior (Reply #29)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:03 AM

35. HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:36 PM

31. Happy Birthday, Joe! Pic of him and his wife, Dr Jill, from a few years ago.

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