Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:54 AM
meegbear (24,632 posts)
This is a big fucking deal: Happy 70th Birthday VP Joe Biden!
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39 replies, 1750 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| meegbear | Nov 2012 | OP | |
| Gidney N Cloyd | Nov 2012 | #1 | |
| DemoTex | Nov 2012 | #19 | |
| etherealtruth | Nov 2012 | #30 | |
| proverbialwisdom | Nov 2012 | #2 | |
| William769 | Nov 2012 | #3 | |
| Royal Sloan 09 | Nov 2012 | #4 | |
| JNelson6563 | Nov 2012 | #5 | |
| dmr | Nov 2012 | #7 | |
| glinda | Nov 2012 | #6 | |
| malaise | Nov 2012 | #8 | |
| blaze | Nov 2012 | #9 | |
| Brigid | Nov 2012 | #10 | |
| SnowCritter | Nov 2012 | #12 | |
| handmade34 | Nov 2012 | #11 | |
| TuxedoKat | Nov 2012 | #13 | |
| gateley | Nov 2012 | #14 | |
| Euphoria | Nov 2012 | #15 | |
| Patiod | Nov 2012 | #16 | |
| sheshe2 | Nov 2012 | #17 | |
| Third Doctor | Nov 2012 | #18 | |
| skeewee08 | Nov 2012 | #20 | |
| James48 | Nov 2012 | #21 | |
| Jim Lane | Nov 2012 | #23 | |
| James48 | Nov 2012 | #36 | |
| Jim Lane | Nov 2012 | #37 | |
| James48 | Nov 2012 | #38 | |
| Jim Lane | Nov 2012 | #39 | |
| No Vested Interest | Nov 2012 | #22 | |
| Cha | Nov 2012 | #33 | |
| Hugin | Nov 2012 | #24 | |
| EmeraldCityGrl | Nov 2012 | #25 | |
| greatauntoftriplets | Nov 2012 | #26 | |
| psychmommy | Nov 2012 | #27 | |
| dimbear | Nov 2012 | #28 | |
| graywarrior | Nov 2012 | #29 | |
| Cha | Nov 2012 | #32 | |
| graywarrior | Nov 2012 | #34 | |
| meegbear | Nov 2012 | #35 | |
| Cha | Nov 2012 | #31 |
Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:07 AM
Gidney N Cloyd (10,446 posts)
1. Jeebus, I hope Iook that good at 70.
Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #1)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:31 PM
DemoTex (21,988 posts)
19. My reaction, too. 70? NO WAY!
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Happy Birthday, Mr. Vice-President!
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Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #1)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:03 PM
etherealtruth (8,353 posts)
30. He does look excellent ... for fifty, much less 70!
Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:09 AM
proverbialwisdom (1,571 posts)
2. Great photo, K&R!
Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:09 AM
William769 (30,424 posts)
3. Happy Bitrthday!
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Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:25 AM
Royal Sloan 09 (406 posts)
4. Happy Birthday, VP Biden!
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70!! Really Dude ya lookin' Good, must be the good livin' Enjoy your B-Day, Sir!
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Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:31 AM
JNelson6563 (24,766 posts)
5. Here's the picture!
What a great picture of two great men! Happy Birthday Mr. Vice-President! Julie |
Response to JNelson6563 (Reply #5)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:14 PM
dmr (25,775 posts)
7. This picture makes me laugh out loud!
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Makes me wonder what they've got up their sleeves. I love their smiles. Happy birthday, Mr. Biden. |
Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:49 AM
glinda (12,075 posts)
6. Happy Birthday Mr. VP.
Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:24 PM
malaise (105,992 posts)
8. Yes indeed
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Happy Birthday VP Joe Biden !!
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Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:39 PM
blaze (2,470 posts)
9. The comradarie between these two
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is so obvious in all the photos that get posted. You just can't fake that kind of "like"
Happy B-Day Joe!!!! We're so glad you're there. More than you may ever know. And yes. It's a BFD!!!!! |
Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:40 PM
Brigid (10,538 posts)
10. Happy birthday, Mr. Vice President!
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Love the photo! It just cries out for a caption by EarlG.
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Response to Brigid (Reply #10)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:45 PM
SnowCritter (315 posts)
12. Something like
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"Remember when Mitt said..."
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Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:45 PM
handmade34 (9,486 posts)
11. Happy Birthday!
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I Love You VP Joe Biden
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Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:50 PM
TuxedoKat (2,510 posts)
13. Happy Birthday Mr. Vice President!
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Hope you have a wonderful day!
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Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:04 PM
gateley (61,882 posts)
14. What a team! I love that they have truly become friends!
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Happy Birthday, Joe -- I wish you love and happiness.
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Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:08 PM
Euphoria (109 posts)
15. Happy birthday Mr Vice President Biden
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You've had our backs and Obama's back the whole time.
We love ya! |
Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:10 PM
Patiod (11,511 posts)
16. Happy Birthday! Keep Amtrak alive for us, Mr Biden!
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You just know Romney would have gutted Amtrak like he wanted to gut the Post Office, but Fightin' Joe will NEVER let that happen on his watch!
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Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:13 PM
sheshe2 (4,828 posts)
17. Happy Birthday Joe!
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Excellent picture of 2 Great Men. Thank you for your service to our country!
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Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:15 PM
Third Doctor (1,025 posts)
18. Happy B-day Joe!
Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:35 PM
skeewee08 (1,892 posts)
20. Happy Birthday VP Joe Biden.....
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Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:43 PM
James48 (923 posts)
21. you know...I've been thinking. Hillary says no. So....here's an idea.
Why not? |
Response to James48 (Reply #21)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:41 PM
Jim Lane (3,828 posts)
23. Unless you want Michelle to run, your ticket isn't legal.
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The VP must be someone who's eligible to be President. By 2016, Barack Obama won't be eligible, having served two terms.
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Response to Jim Lane (Reply #23)
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:26 AM
James48 (923 posts)
36. Yes, it is perfectly legal.
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The 22nd Amendment doesn't prohibit a former president from running for VICE president.
It only prohibits him from being elected again as President. See? "Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term. Section 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress." It would be LEGAL to have Barack and Joe switch for 2016, and, in the unlikely event anything ever happened to Joe, then Barack COULD legally become President again, under terms of the 25th Amendment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution Whether or not America would go for that, I don't know. I DO know it would be perfectly legal if they did. |
Response to James48 (Reply #36)
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:35 PM
Jim Lane (3,828 posts)
37. You missed the Twelfth Amendment.
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The last sentence, after describing the procedure for election of a Vice President, states: "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."
I think I've seen this idea floated as to both Reagan and Clinton, who ended their second terms with high approval ratings and might well have won a third term if eligible. The idea was that the incumbent President could run for Vice President with a running mate whose platform was a promise to resign immediately after being inaugurated. This doesn't work, because of the Twelfth Amendment. |
Response to Jim Lane (Reply #37)
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:28 PM
James48 (923 posts)
38. Read it again
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There is nothing which Constitutionally prohibits Obama from being eligible FOR THE OFFICE oF President (Only requires age of 35, and a natural born citizen to HOLD the office, and have been a U.S. resident for 14 years).
The 22nd only says he cannot be ELECTED. It doesn't say he cannot be elevated by a way OTHER THAN ELECTION. Qualifications for the Office of President Age and Citizenship requirements - US Constitution, Article II, Section 1 No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States. Term limit amendment - US Constitution, Amendment XXII, Section 1 – ratified February 27, 1951 No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. |
Response to James48 (Reply #38)
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 01:40 AM
Jim Lane (3,828 posts)
39. My guess is that your interpretation would not be accepted by the courts.
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As John Marshall said, the nature of the Constitution
requires that only its great outlines should be marked, its important objects designated, and the minor ingredients which compose those objects be deduced from the nature of the objects themselves. . . . . In considering this question, then, we must never forget that it is a Constitution that we are expounding. (McCulloch v. Maryland, 4 Wheat. 316, 407 (1819)).
A court would be likely to rule that the relevant amendments didn't specifically spell out that Obama couldn't serve a third term by the type of arrangement you describe, but that saying so didn't end the inquiry. Reading the provisions to bar an Obama candidacy for Vice President would be an example of deducing minor ingredients from the nature of the objects of the provisions. There's very little chance that we'll ever find out how the courts would rule on this question. All I can tell you is that, looking at all these provisions, and bearing in mind what I've seen of courts in action, I would offer steep odds that Obama would be held to be ineligible for election or appointment to the Vice Presidency. The alternative, requiring a literal-mindedness run amok, is not how courts actually function, especially in the realm of constitutional law. |
Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:59 PM
No Vested Interest (517 posts)
22. Yes, All best wishes
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to VP Joe Biden.
I loved it when the President called him "America's Happy Warrior" in his victory speech Nov. 6. So apt. I never knew our original Dem. Happy Warrior - Al Smith- but doubt that he could have out-laughed our Joe Biden. |
Response to No Vested Interest (Reply #22)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:41 PM
Cha (124,501 posts)
33. Thanks for that, N V I! nm
Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:44 PM
Hugin (20,594 posts)
24. Happy B-day, Joe!
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Hope you like the present we got you!
Four more years! |
Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:45 PM
EmeraldCityGrl (4,308 posts)
25. Biden makes 70 look great! Happy Birthday Joe.
Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:52 PM
greatauntoftriplets (129,576 posts)
26. A really BFD!!!
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Happy birthday, Vice President Biden.
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Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:56 PM
psychmommy (1,657 posts)
27. Happy bday Veep.
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You are a very special man and you are much loved.
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Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:59 PM
dimbear (5,112 posts)
28. Could say many happy returns but Joe got them earlier this month. n/t
Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:00 PM
graywarrior (57,047 posts)
29. My birthday too!
Response to graywarrior (Reply #29)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:38 PM
Cha (124,501 posts)
32. Happy Birthday, Graywarrior!
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Response to graywarrior (Reply #29)
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:03 AM
meegbear (24,632 posts)
35. HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
Response to meegbear (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:36 PM
Cha (124,501 posts)

