Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:34 AM

Wasn't sure whether to believe the Anonymous/Rove story,until the reaction telling us to shut up @it

I can always tell that people are on to something, when a group of people are sent to convince everyone to shut up about it.

Now Kos thinks it's a conspiracy and not worth talking about?

That seals the deal.

Kos is an authoritarian and won't let anyone talk about 9/11 either.

But posters are allowed to discuss Benghazi and what did or did not happen, who was responsible, who didn't read the warnings.

Many limited hangout 'Democrats' (like Kos who was Republican/CIA?) are misleading the party.

If it weren't for 'Democracts" trying to hold the party back and misdirect, we would have solved the problems of our election systems by now.

He was of no use in prior incidents of election fraud, why would anyone value his opinion now?

Kos has to be an utter moron(or a set up) to believe our elections with secret software should not be questioned.

And the behavior of Rove, the obvious manufactured consent by the media about to cover up a stolen election...the media and GOP were behaving very strangely...but we should just not analyze that at all. yeah, their polls were just way off. Sure. Nothing to see here folks, you can trust 'Dem' blogger Kos.

The best 'argument' the people who tell us to shut up about it have.... If you point out that they might have tried to steal it, that takes away from Obama's win and the hard work. How fucking stupid is that? Anonymous was trying to prevent everyone's time and hard work from being wasted. Duh!!

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Wasn't sure whether to believe the Anonymous/Rove story,until the reaction telling us to shut up @it (Original post)	RepublicansRZombies	Nov 2012	OP
Really? Insulting fellow DUers is how you want to go?	randome	Nov 2012	#1
Yep, we should all shut up and get back to slurping vomit..	Fumesucker	Nov 2012	#11
I don't see an insult toward Duers at all... help me out, please?	Melinda	Nov 2012	#17
I'll concede that. It was a little unclear to me on first reading that he only meant KOS and not DU.	randome	Nov 2012	#21
Thanks... the loss of neurons in me head causes me (and others!) no end of grief.	Melinda	Nov 2012	#25
Why, thank you. Don't mind if I do!	randome	Nov 2012	#28
Them cookies look GOOD, yo.	leeroysphitz	Nov 2012	#93
What's this? "Markos Moulitsas: Fraudsters, take your shit elsewhere"	RepublicansRZombies	Nov 2012	#27
I had not been in that thread. I wasn't even sure what it was about.	randome	Nov 2012	#42
Thanks for starting this thread. I've felt that there are some strange attitudes at the Kos site	byeya	Nov 2012	#109
Because they don't want DU to become known as the home of gullible mouth-breathers?	muriel_volestrangler	Nov 2012	#223
Because truthers degrade Kos' brand, and so are not welcome . . .	MrModerate	Nov 2012	#279
I have no idea whether the hacking is true or not.	Bonhomme Richard	Nov 2012	#2
"Wasn't sure whether to believe the Anonymous/Rove story,until the reaction..."	ProSense	Nov 2012	#3
If you have been studying the net for as long as I have	RepublicansRZombies	Nov 2012	#7
"People are sent, and they will not let the topic go"	ProSense	Nov 2012	#10
And Here You Are.	bahrbearian	Nov 2012	#59
Odd, someone else reinforces the point.	A Simple Game	Nov 2012	#113
Touche!	Capt. Obvious	Nov 2012	#120
Yeah, here I am.	ProSense	Nov 2012	#151
Yeah, here she is. Thank Goodness. nm	Cha	Nov 2012	#265
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!	RomneyLies	Nov 2012	#33
Contrary evidence is POSITIVE evidence!	Scootaloo	Nov 2012	#129
They crack me up too. So do 'former Republicans' like Kos	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#146
Cenk is a "former Republican"	ProSense	Nov 2012	#154
Ed Schultz is a former Republican.	randome	Nov 2012	#156
Cenk has explained his transformation. He has never, that I am aware of, written about his	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#190
So's Howard Dean...and Hillary Clinton!	MADem	Nov 2012	#217
Yes they came to their senses but kos never did.	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#225
You're not seriously suggesting that kos is a Republican?	MADem	Nov 2012	#230
Again, you comparing people who are in no way comparable to kos, to someone who, hopefully	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#235
I am not "comparing" anyone at all. What I am endeavoring to point out is that we are a large party.	MADem	Nov 2012	#287
The Big Tent argument always seems to ignore that what that meant	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#288
The Big Tent isn't an argument, though--it's the operative philosophy of the party.	MADem	Nov 2012	#291
It's simple. I don't like Republicans in the Big Tent.	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#293
Well, you're entitled to your opinion, but I don't think your POV holds sway.	MADem	Nov 2012	#294
more on this .. Cass Sunstein is disturbed by all the "extremism"	kilgore_trout	Dec 2012	#296
actually this link is better	kilgore_trout	Dec 2012	#297
Welcome to DU!	hrmjustin	Dec 2012	#299
I Agree	SoCalMusicLover	Nov 2012	#4
Here's a good point:	ProSense	Nov 2012	#6
ORCA HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!	Atman	Nov 2012	#53
Then why did it fail?	jeff47	Nov 2012	#65
Software fails all the time.	lalalu	Nov 2012	#131
Something as trivial as "change O to R" isn't gonna fail. (nt)	jeff47	Nov 2012	#260
Sure it can. Just like something as trivial as	lalalu	Nov 2012	#274
Downloading that update has no effect. Installing that update does, and is much more complex.	jeff47	Nov 2012	#284
"All the other times they've been wrong"???	aquart	Nov 2012	#139
Exit polling isn't used like you think it is.	jeff47	Nov 2012	#261
Trying to teach your grandmother to suck eggs?	aquart	Nov 2012	#268
No, you're the one implying exit polls are infallible. My grandmother took statistics. (nt)	jeff47	Nov 2012	#269
Except that the (alleged) Anonymous statement claimed...	regnaD kciN	Nov 2012	#160
I AGREE! I am not arguing FOR Anonymous!	Atman	Nov 2012	#162
No-one suspects it, and that is suspicious?	muriel_volestrangler	Nov 2012	#226
I know exactly as much as you do about the software patches.	Atman	Nov 2012	#236
You admit you don't know anything was amiss	muriel_volestrangler	Nov 2012	#239
Have even read my posts? It sure doesn't seem so.	Atman	Nov 2012	#248
Yes, I've read them, and they appear to be disconected from reality	muriel_volestrangler	Nov 2012	#259
"If this story is true, all that happened was essentially a validation of Obama's victory. "	RepublicansRZombies	Nov 2012	#12
Who is tryiing to lie to you? There is no evidence that anything happened. True or false?	randome	Nov 2012	#13
False	bigmonkey	Nov 2012	#51
The "evidence" we need is from the Manufacturers of the BBV. Prove they are	Vincardog	Nov 2012	#112
Without evidence, there is nothing to prove or disprove.	randome	Nov 2012	#124
I stand by my post. The lack of evidence is because the preps refuse to validate	Vincardog	Nov 2012	#126
Electronic voting is like the Internet itself, IMO.	randome	Nov 2012	#142
open yet secure, these are not two diametrically opposed ideals. Open Source	Vincardog	Nov 2012	#155
If open source was the sole answer, we would not have massive identify theft today.	randome	Nov 2012	#158
And anything that is cloaked in secrecy is open to be abused.	Atman	Nov 2012	#168
I'm not opposing anything!	randome	Nov 2012	#173
The receipt is POINTLESS.	Atman	Nov 2012	#189
I said the printed ballot would be dropped into a locked box.	randome	Nov 2012	#193
But what triggers a re-count?	Atman	Nov 2012	#227
Good post	dreamnightwind	Nov 2012	#280
Reliability is not the same problem as security. OS would guarantee the code WORKS	Vincardog	Nov 2012	#184
Whatever code they're using now apparently works and was not hacked.	randome	Nov 2012	#187
You absolutely do not know that.	Atman	Nov 2012	#233
+1	aquart	Nov 2012	#140
Anon timeline?	JaneyVee	Nov 2012	#5
Shut up about what?	Javaman	Nov 2012	#8
It's not even 'anonymous' it's some wanker in a mask.	geek tragedy	Nov 2012	#37
Nah, it Was Karl Rove in the Fox green room with the Guy Fawkes mask	RomneyLies	Nov 2012	#56
If it did go down as described, the evidence deleted itself the instant after the evnt.	Occulus	Nov 2012	#157
+1000	Atman	Nov 2012	#170
association is not evidence.	Javaman	Nov 2012	#295
yes, very suggestive of fire being covered up when the smoke is scoffed at.	librechik	Nov 2012	#9
Except there's no smoke. There's someone saying "Look! Smoke!"	jeff47	Nov 2012	#62
I'm glad you weren't working on the Challenger mission	librechik	Nov 2012	#128
That's a really stupid analogy...	regnaD kciN	Nov 2012	#181
really? I think it's stupid for one poster to imagine they can read the mind of another	librechik	Nov 2012	#186
Name-calling? You're the one who compared another DUer to incompetent engineers	muriel_volestrangler	Nov 2012	#231
It was not the engineers who decided to send Challenger up	Demeter	Nov 2012	#272
So you refer to someones analogy as "stupid" and you think this is going to help the conversation?	louslobbs	Nov 2012	#251
Nothing has been pointed out.	jeff47	Nov 2012	#250
I find the theory plausible. I value Election Integrity above Party.	IdaBriggs	Nov 2012	#14
The difference is evidence.	jeff47	Nov 2012	#73
I agree with you. Evidence is important. Ignoring evidence is the status quo.	IdaBriggs	Nov 2012	#89
+1000000 for bringing up Andy and his work- Thank you	RepublicansRZombies	Nov 2012	#94
Exactly. Thank you.	aquart	Nov 2012	#143
BOOM!	Atman	Nov 2012	#175
So you're now claiming that events in 2004 are evidence for what happened in 2012?	jeff47	Nov 2012	#257
What did Rachael Maddow recently say?	IdaBriggs	Nov 2012	#275
The more they scream the more I want it discussed	Kingofalldems	Nov 2012	#15
KOS can do what he wants at his site	Kingofalldems	Nov 2012	#16
Lots of shit stirring	ProSense	Nov 2012	#18
You Better Believe It!!!! nt	msanthrope	Nov 2012	#159
RepublicansRZombies has been here about 90 days, not 30 (nt)	muriel_volestrangler	Nov 2012	#232
K&R n/t	Z_I_Peevey	Nov 2012	#19
LOL. "won't let anyone talk about 9/11 either"	cthulu2016	Nov 2012	#20
When they talk about Benghazi they sound crazy and lose credibility.	Hamlette	Nov 2012	#22
No rumor is true until it is officially denied	Demeter	Nov 2012	#23
Then anonymous is evil.	jeff47	Nov 2012	#75
On the other hand	Demeter	Nov 2012	#101
How, exactly, would they counteract new voting machines with a recounted paper trail?	jeff47	Nov 2012	#252
You also need a government of integrity to do the hole closing	Demeter	Nov 2012	#273
The problem is previous holes have not been shown to be real election-day vulnerabilities	jeff47	Nov 2012	#283
When does the paper trail get examined?	dreamnightwind	Nov 2012	#281
There's a problem of scale	jeff47	Nov 2012	#282
Scaling up a counting crew would be the least of our worries	dreamnightwind	Nov 2012	#286
This message was hidden by jury decision.	Pbs1914	Nov 2012	#24
Why don't you try learning something about how this new fangled technology stuff werks!	phleshdef	Nov 2012	#26
"there are many of us with years of IT experience"	RepublicansRZombies	Nov 2012	#38
Its not a tactic. Its the last 15 years of my fucking life.	phleshdef	Nov 2012	#47
An anonymous email versus the contextual explanations of your fellow DUers.	randome	Nov 2012	#48
Actually, the experts explained it to you in plenty of detail.	jeff47	Nov 2012	#70
So were those machines not connected to the internet...	ljm2002	Nov 2012	#100
+10000000	RepublicansRZombies	Nov 2012	#136
It depends on the system. Remember, the conspiracy theory is OH, FL and VA.	jeff47	Nov 2012	#254
"The tabulators may or may not be on the Internet"...	ljm2002	Nov 2012	#255
No, you need to actually read what I'm saying.	jeff47	Nov 2012	#271
And there are many of us with years of IT experience...	ljm2002	Nov 2012	#99
If you think there is something there, then you don't know shit and you are lying about IT exp.	phleshdef	Nov 2012	#125
Hackers use all sorts of terminology...	ljm2002	Nov 2012	#137
Oh horse shit. Its not a case of "hackers using all sorts of terminology".	phleshdef	Nov 2012	#148
Unless, of course, they intentionally misrepresented their tactics,	Occulus	Nov 2012	#161
I'm so glad that I've already gone bald.	phleshdef	Nov 2012	#176
You are obviously a self-important boob...	ljm2002	Nov 2012	#185
Bwahhahahah "boob". I'm not self important, I just KNOW what I'm talking about.	phleshdef	Nov 2012	#188
It is obvious that your reading comprehension needs some work...	ljm2002	Nov 2012	#192
I'm dismissing the purported Anonymous letter out of hand.	phleshdef	Nov 2012	#198
Regarding ORCA...	ljm2002	Nov 2012	#206
Please go read about what ORCA actually was. It wasn't anything fancy at all.	phleshdef	Nov 2012	#213
Again with the lack of reading comprehension...	ljm2002	Nov 2012	#218
The (fake) Anonymous letter attempted to draw a connection between ORCA and vote rigging.	phleshdef	Nov 2012	#219
People who are afraid of any talk of conspiracies...	ljm2002	Nov 2012	#222
I'm not afraid to talk of conspiracies and I don't deny that conspiracies have and do occur.	phleshdef	Nov 2012	#224
So did you notice the sh*t Husted was pulling this time?	ljm2002	Nov 2012	#229
Of course I noticed it. But he wasn't nearly as successful as Blackwell.	phleshdef	Nov 2012	#238
"This kind of shit makes us look like flat earthers"...	ljm2002	Nov 2012	#241
I prefer critical thinking to "feelings" when it comes to a claim	cali	Nov 2012	#29
Then please explain...	regnaD kciN	Nov 2012	#30
It would have been 314 without Ohio, no? nt	geek tragedy	Nov 2012	#35
Basic logic	Pbs1914	Nov 2012	#31
well said! "the simple fact that every possible angle to suppress votes was used by Karl Rove etc"	RepublicansRZombies	Nov 2012	#52
One can admit the possibility without swallowing this hypothesis...	regnaD kciN	Nov 2012	#194
Begs the question: Why WOULDN'T they?	joeunderdog	Nov 2012	#277
yeah and duh	marions ghost	Nov 2012	#66
^== This. NT	IdaBriggs	Nov 2012	#92
Wrong	Springslips	Nov 2012	#240
Kos is CIA?	naaman fletcher	Nov 2012	#32
Kos himself says he applied to join the CIA but then changed his mind	starroute	Nov 2012	#141
thanks. nt	naaman fletcher	Nov 2012	#163
That's how the Birthers reacted when their similarly unsubstantiated	geek tragedy	Nov 2012	#34
I do have to admit, there is a HUGE difference between Fraudsters and Birthers	RomneyLies	Nov 2012	#40
Amazing how some people believe something just because they see it	geek tragedy	Nov 2012	#45
Or disbelieve something..	99Forever	Nov 2012	#55
I disbelieve it becaues there is no reason to believe it.	geek tragedy	Nov 2012	#81
Your opinion...	99Forever	Nov 2012	#102
You do know that's the same thing Creationists say, right?	randome	Nov 2012	#105
More strawman bullshit from you?	99Forever	Nov 2012	#110
How is your embrace of this conspiracy theory different than creationism or birtherism? nt	geek tragedy	Nov 2012	#133
How is ...	99Forever	Nov 2012	#174
Dean Chambers, a polling blogger, is alleging voter fraud in 4 states with Republican governors.	geek tragedy	Nov 2012	#201
Did I ask you to?	99Forever	Nov 2012	#212
No, the lack of evidence is a FACT.	geek tragedy	Nov 2012	#132
Code can delete itself immediately after execution, and it can do so without a trace.	Occulus	Nov 2012	#164
So you're supporting a 'maybe' with a 'can'. Like adding zeros together and expecting > 0.	randome	Nov 2012	#165
For someone that...	99Forever	Nov 2012	#178
I have NO evidence that anything happened on election night. Do you?	randome	Nov 2012	#180
So...	99Forever	Nov 2012	#200
Touchy, isn't he?	randome	Nov 2012	#204
And, totally unimpressive. nm	Cha	Nov 2012	#267
Wrong.	99Forever	Nov 2012	#172
Please point to one fact proving that	geek tragedy	Nov 2012	#197
Please point to one fact proving that	99Forever	Nov 2012	#215
Logical fallacy. Those making a claim are the ones who bear	geek tragedy	Nov 2012	#249
A lot of words, just to say...	99Forever	Nov 2012	#270
I was sent by Central Corporate Command (CCC) to shut down discussion!	alcibiades_mystery	Nov 2012	#36
hee hee	RomneyLies	Nov 2012	#43
+1000000...	regnaD kciN	Nov 2012	#199
So one random jackass claims they hacked Rove's hack, and it's a big story and coverup?	snooper2	Nov 2012	#39
When you say 'scoop'...	randome	Nov 2012	#44
No, we don't need to see your "scoop."	MineralMan	Nov 2012	#144
Yep you got it	madokie	Nov 2012	#41
Ah yes, those who discount CT bullshit as CT bullshit are OBVIOUSLY IN ON THE CONSPIRACY!!!	RomneyLies	Nov 2012	#46
Why won't the government tell us the truth?	MineralMan	Nov 2012	#145
Don't forget Rove The Almighty has not yet weighed in on this issue.	randome	Nov 2012	#147
...and the utter absence of evidence only proves the conspiracy is working.	regnaD kciN	Nov 2012	#202
"You know you're over the target when you start taking flack."	Hugin	Nov 2012	#49
Anyone who has lived through the last 12 years in Ohio knows....	peace13	Nov 2012	#50
Thank you.	Z_I_Peevey	Nov 2012	#54
the same religious fervor that told us to shut up about social security-just wait and see	RepublicansRZombies	Nov 2012	#60
Yes, I bet kos was among that contingency also. He is so predictable.	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#244
Exactly. Well said. nt	truckin	Nov 2012	#91
Meh, that's kind of immature isn't it?	treestar	Nov 2012	#57
It is a Fact that Karl Rove is a Shitty Deal!!!	mstinamotorcity2	Nov 2012	#58
So the moon landing was fake?	jeff47	Nov 2012	#61
Agreed. People like Debbie Wasserman-Schultz dissmissing (or laughing off)	Phx_Dem	Nov 2012	#63
+1000 n/t	Z_I_Peevey	Nov 2012	#74
This is making the Democrats look crazy	gravity	Nov 2012	#64
NO, this is people looking crazy and saying they are Dems	Coyotl	Nov 2012	#115
Bingo!	regnaD kciN	Nov 2012	#205
I have thought that as well...	Myrina	Nov 2012	#67
You forgot a third possibility.	randome	Nov 2012	#76
Same, predictable group, too.	woo me with science	Nov 2012	#234
I particularly find amusing the inclusion of swearing. Lighten up, Francises!	WinkyDink	Nov 2012	#68
In my mind, the reaction you are describing is only evidence that some people don't want to talk	ZombieHorde	Nov 2012	#69
If they don't want to talk about it, why do they start threads about it?	RepublicansRZombies	Nov 2012	#72
Good point. I should have said they don't want to credit the topic. nt	ZombieHorde	Nov 2012	#83
that is just the thing that has me wonder, why do they care so much if it is so discredited?	RepublicansRZombies	Nov 2012	#85
We need to be saved from the pending congelation of a falsehood	Coyotl	Nov 2012	#117
It's possible they did. I don't know.	xfundy	Nov 2012	#71
ONLY important issue is adressing the FACT that the machines are hackable.	RepublicansRZombies	Nov 2012	#80
Paper ballots with a verifiable chain of security	byeya	Nov 2012	#103
"verifiable chain of security" yes, also very important! Kathy Nickolaus taught us that one.	RepublicansRZombies	Nov 2012	#134
There are lots of important issues, and this is NOT one of them	Coyotl	Nov 2012	#121
Quoting Bev Harris may not get you any points here at DU	starroute	Nov 2012	#152
Quoting Bev Harris will get your entire argument summarily dismissed	Occulus	Nov 2012	#167
Meanwhile, when an unidentified person posts some bullshit, everyone asks for seconds	Coyotl	Nov 2012	#182
Why are you so 'concerned' about this? It was, up to the point where we started seeing this	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#191
Bev Harris is an authority on thes matters, like her personally or not	Coyotl	Nov 2012	#177
No, Bev Harris is a known grifter and fraud	Occulus	Nov 2012	#262
I'll make a note somewhere that you are the expert in this matter, the all knowing one.	Coyotl	Nov 2012	#263
I don't like her--she lied about Andy, she'll lie about anything. IMO. nt	MADem	Nov 2012	#292
Yes. It would be lovely if 2012 caused Republicans to send these stupid machines to landfill.	aquart	Nov 2012	#149
Meh, not really. Maybe they're just sick of talking about it.	Taverner	Nov 2012	#77
The level of effort to discredit a theory does make you think twice....	marions ghost	Nov 2012	#78
Theories start with a modicum of evidence or facts.	randome	Nov 2012	#79
Well it sure got all the authoritarian third way and right wingers all upset.	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#242
yes, that is what is so weird about it	RepublicansRZombies	Nov 2012	#88
So you'll draw a conclusion based simply on what bloggers are saying?	TroglodyteScholar	Nov 2012	#82
Or YOU could be a Republican/CIA here to discredit Kos	Matariki	Nov 2012	#84
Kos takes care of that all by himself, to free thinking liberals asking questions	RepublicansRZombies	Nov 2012	#104
While I don't think this particular reaction proves anything...	ljm2002	Nov 2012	#86
Thus far, all we have is Anonymous' assertion. Where's the evidence that	coalition_unwilling	Nov 2012	#87
I personally don't believe a bunch of hackers did anything in this election.	Gore1FL	Nov 2012	#90
Wasn't sure whether to believe the Moon Landing Hoax story,until the reaction telling us to shut up	muriel_volestrangler	Nov 2012	#95
Brilliant!	regnaD kciN	Nov 2012	#208
+1000!	Turn CO Blue	Nov 2012	#258
I kicked Kos out of my line up long ago. n/t	2pooped2pop	Nov 2012	#96
if you can't prove	ejbr	Nov 2012	#97
There are many things we will NEVER know. In a poker game, it's best to bluff than	valerief	Nov 2012	#98
I don't believe the Ohio Diebold machines can be hacked.	JohnnyRingo	Nov 2012	#106
Manditory audits of recorded votes vs paper votes is a must. Not sure if Ohio has that.	yourout	Nov 2012	#127
Paper ballots are logged and certified at the precinct....	JohnnyRingo	Nov 2012	#183
I doubt script kiddies living in their parents' basements can hack election machines.	Odin2005	Nov 2012	#107
Anonymous is not just script kiddies living in their parents' basements	starroute	Nov 2012	#166
Yes, any time someone makes fun of an assertion, that means its TRUE!	Warren DeMontague	Nov 2012	#108
The idea that it was possible for the vote to be hacked	Ford_Prefect	Nov 2012	#111
"The best 'argument' the people who tell us to shut up about it have ..."	Denzil_DC	Nov 2012	#114
"Wishful thinking" seems to be the key here...	regnaD kciN	Nov 2012	#211
If Anonymous had proof on Rove they would spill it.	iandhr	Nov 2012	#116
I don't put anything past them....	NRaleighLiberal	Nov 2012	#118
2012 ELECTION WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!!	Capt. Obvious	Nov 2012	#119
There really is no evidence of this CT.	Jennicut	Nov 2012	#122
I can always tell that people are UP to something, when a group of people send a fake video to self	Coyotl	Nov 2012	#123
Ooh, that picture may come in so handy	muriel_volestrangler	Nov 2012	#237
Many limited hangout 'Democrats' (like Kos who was Republican/CIA?) are misleading the party.	AlbertCat	Nov 2012	#130
Wow, crazy is really taking off! n/t	ProSense	Nov 2012	#135
That's a pretty low evidentiary bar ya got there. n/t	cherokeeprogressive	Nov 2012	#138
All that is asked for is evidence, which has yet to be presented.	NYC Liberal	Nov 2012	#150
"'Rove acted like an idiot on Fox News'" is NOT evidence."	ProSense	Nov 2012	#153
LOL, if Rove acting like an idiot is evidence of a conspiracy,	NYC Liberal	Nov 2012	#169
So far, this thread has become comic gold...	regnaD kciN	Nov 2012	#214
Sigh...	gcomeau	Nov 2012	#171
Welcome to Freep Bizzaro World!	NightOwwl	Nov 2012	#179
Here's my take, for what's it's worth	rightsideout	Nov 2012	#195
CT deniers crack me up.	Waiting For Everyman	Nov 2012	#196
" Who on this board is delusional enough to try and pretend that conspiracy is not a substantial..."	randome	Nov 2012	#207
What a ridiculous comment	ProSense	Nov 2012	#209
Really? I thought it was one of my better ones.	Waiting For Everyman	Nov 2012	#220
Yep.	Z_I_Peevey	Nov 2012	#247
This whole thread backs up the original post.	Eyes of the World	Nov 2012	#203
Here's an interesting tidbit from Legal Schnauzer	starroute	Nov 2012	#210
Well, gee, that's a competing theory to the one that Anonymous is a collaboration between	MADem	Nov 2012	#216
Anonymous aside...	peace13	Nov 2012	#221
I fear voter intimidation more than hackery, frankly.	MADem	Nov 2012	#228
Are you aware that Ohio votes were run through the RNC computers in 2004...	peace13	Nov 2012	#246
You twisted that all wrong.	Coyotl	Nov 2012	#264
I beg to differ.	peace13	Nov 2012	#285
And Simplicity is simplicity	marions ghost	Nov 2012	#256
And it doesn't mean that Anonymous isn't run by the CIA, either.	MADem	Nov 2012	#276
How I wish I could unrec	intaglio	Nov 2012	#243
The old 'CT' charge even when it does not apply. The real CT is to pretend that our elections and	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#245
If That is Your Methodology,	On the Road	Nov 2012	#253
Okay, I Confess! You got me...	brooklynite	Nov 2012	#266
We all spent time and money getting Democrats elected. We did so back	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#290
It May Be True, It May Not Be True	colsohlibgal	Nov 2012	#278
ANONYMOUS - WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE!!!	warrprayer	Nov 2012	#289
It's the Third Way, working hard to protect the Military Industrial Complex from democracy.	Zorra	Dec 2012	#298

Response to RepublicansRZombies (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:38 AM

randome (12,740 posts)

1. Really? Insulting fellow DUers is how you want to go?

No one has ever said to shut up. And you have it wrong about the 'best argument'.

The best argument against latching onto this latest CT is that there is no evidence that anything happened.

Peace.

Wasn't sure whether to believe the Anonymous/Rove story,until the reaction telling us to shut up @it

1. Really? Insulting fellow DUers is how you want to go?

11. Yep, we should all shut up and get back to slurping vomit..

17. I don't see an insult toward Duers at all... help me out, please?

21. I'll concede that. It was a little unclear to me on first reading that he only meant KOS and not DU.

25. Thanks... the loss of neurons in me head causes me (and others!) no end of grief.

28. Why, thank you. Don't mind if I do!

93. Them cookies look GOOD, yo.

27. What's this? "Markos Moulitsas: Fraudsters, take your shit elsewhere"

42. I had not been in that thread. I wasn't even sure what it was about.

109. Thanks for starting this thread. I've felt that there are some strange attitudes at the Kos site

223. Because they don't want DU to become known as the home of gullible mouth-breathers?

279. Because truthers degrade Kos' brand, and so are not welcome . . .

2. I have no idea whether the hacking is true or not.

3. "Wasn't sure whether to believe the Anonymous/Rove story,until the reaction..."

7. If you have been studying the net for as long as I have

10. "People are sent, and they will not let the topic go"

59. And Here You Are.

113. Odd, someone else reinforces the point.

120. Touche!

151. Yeah, here I am.

265. Yeah, here she is. Thank Goodness. nm

33. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

129. Contrary evidence is POSITIVE evidence!

146. They crack me up too. So do 'former Republicans' like Kos

154. Cenk is a "former Republican"

156. Ed Schultz is a former Republican.

190. Cenk has explained his transformation. He has never, that I am aware of, written about his

217. So's Howard Dean...and Hillary Clinton!

225. Yes they came to their senses but kos never did.

230. You're not seriously suggesting that kos is a Republican?

235. Again, you comparing people who are in no way comparable to kos, to someone who, hopefully

287. I am not "comparing" anyone at all. What I am endeavoring to point out is that we are a large party.

288. The Big Tent argument always seems to ignore that what that meant

291. The Big Tent isn't an argument, though--it's the operative philosophy of the party.

293. It's simple. I don't like Republicans in the Big Tent.

294. Well, you're entitled to your opinion, but I don't think your POV holds sway.

296. more on this .. Cass Sunstein is disturbed by all the "extremism"

297. actually this link is better

299. Welcome to DU!

4. I Agree

6. Here's a good point:

53. ORCA HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!

65. Then why did it fail?

131. Software fails all the time.

260. Something as trivial as "change O to R" isn't gonna fail. (nt)

274. Sure it can. Just like something as trivial as

284. Downloading that update has no effect. Installing that update does, and is much more complex.

139. "All the other times they've been wrong"???

261. Exit polling isn't used like you think it is.

268. Trying to teach your grandmother to suck eggs?

269. No, you're the one implying exit polls are infallible. My grandmother took statistics. (nt)

160. Except that the (alleged) Anonymous statement claimed...

162. I AGREE! I am not arguing FOR Anonymous!

226. No-one suspects it, and that is suspicious?

236. I know exactly as much as you do about the software patches.

239. You admit you don't know anything was amiss

248. Have even read my posts? It sure doesn't seem so.

259. Yes, I've read them, and they appear to be disconected from reality

12. "If this story is true, all that happened was essentially a validation of Obama's victory. "

13. Who is tryiing to lie to you? There is no evidence that anything happened. True or false?

51. False

112. The "evidence" we need is from the Manufacturers of the BBV. Prove they are

124. Without evidence, there is nothing to prove or disprove.

126. I stand by my post. The lack of evidence is because the preps refuse to validate

142. Electronic voting is like the Internet itself, IMO.

155. open yet secure, these are not two diametrically opposed ideals. Open Source

158. If open source was the sole answer, we would not have massive identify theft today.

168. And anything that is cloaked in secrecy is open to be abused.

173. I'm not opposing anything!

189. The receipt is POINTLESS.

193. I said the printed ballot would be dropped into a locked box.

227. But what triggers a re-count?

280. Good post

184. Reliability is not the same problem as security. OS would guarantee the code WORKS

187. Whatever code they're using now apparently works and was not hacked.

233. You absolutely do not know that.

140. +1

5. Anon timeline?

8. Shut up about what?