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Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:50 AM

Why Are The Repugs Afraid Of Susan Rice?.....

Really - the campaign McCain and Graham are on to discredit her - and now a group of Repugs sending a letter to PBO.

The noise that they are making to discredit her doesn't make sense - so - what is there real reason for not wanting her as Sec?

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Reply Why Are The Repugs Afraid Of Susan Rice?..... (Original post)
global1 Nov 2012 OP
COLGATE4 Nov 2012 #1
demwing Nov 2012 #5
jberryhill Nov 2012 #9
BlueMTexpat Nov 2012 #21
COLGATE4 Nov 2012 #28
edhopper Nov 2012 #2
HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #3
Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #8
demwing Nov 2012 #4
GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #19
AnnaLee Nov 2012 #6
Mass Nov 2012 #13
hobbit709 Nov 2012 #7
demosincebirth Nov 2012 #29
librechik Nov 2012 #10
We People Nov 2012 #11
Mass Nov 2012 #14
We People Nov 2012 #17
Aerows Nov 2012 #12
ReRe Nov 2012 #15
Odin2005 Nov 2012 #16
Mass Nov 2012 #18
HopeHoops Nov 2012 #20
applegrove Nov 2012 #22
Skidmore Nov 2012 #23
MineralMan Nov 2012 #24
AnnaLee Nov 2012 #25
elleng Nov 2012 #26
notadmblnd Nov 2012 #27
flying-skeleton Nov 2012 #30

Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:58 AM

1. Because she's black? nt

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:04 AM

5. It's worse than that...

she's not white!

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:07 AM

9. Was Condoleeza Rice chartreuse?

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #9)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:46 PM

21. Condi is an R. That's all that is

necessary for any person of any color to be above reproach - even when they shouldn't be.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #9)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 05:22 PM

28. Nope. Worse - she was a Rethug

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:01 AM

2. The want to entangle

Obama in a scandal as quickly as possible to negate any momentum he might have from the election.
Right now Benghazi is all they have and using it to defeat Obama's SOS pick would be high profile and a big victory.
It's all just political bullshit.

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Response to edhopper (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:02 AM

3. ^^^This^^^

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Response to edhopper (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:05 AM

8. I'd bet you're right--plus,

having failed to stop Obama's electoral victory, this gives them a crack at another black person. The wingnuts would like that. Kind of like a consolation prize for the racists.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:03 AM

4. IMO, they aren't afraid of her

they are in a panic because they lost when they thought they would win, they need a distraction to make America forget how badly they suck, so they are striking out at a convenient target.

Rice is female, not white, well educated, and a Dem. I am not surprised at all that they want to discredit her and, by proxy, the Pres.

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Response to demwing (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:58 AM

19. Yep. I detect nothing resembling "fear" coming from them.

As someone pointed out in another thread last night, this is not only about their trying to discredit the President. They also are attempting to dictate his cabinet and other political appointee choices. They are not at all afraid of Rice.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:04 AM

6. The question is - have they expressed opposition to John Kerry as Sec?

Some have suggested that it might be as simple as wanting John Kerry to vacate his Senate seat and expecting Brown to win it.

It's hard to tell though when you are looking at some pretty nutty people at times.

I can't figure out how but I tend to think they want to find something to try to impeach the President with. Maybe they are thinking if they can get an investigation going that allows them into the Executive's britches, they can search and search and search until they find something. Even if they have to take that something out of context (remember the election).

They seem nuts to me but the people who keep electing them seem nuts to me also.

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Response to AnnaLee (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:40 AM

13. In which case they are even more moronic than expected, as their actions are pushing Obama toward

Rice if he was not yet there.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:04 AM

7. She's black, she's a woman, and she's way smarter than they are.

In their minds that's the trifecta of their fears.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #7)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 05:38 PM

29. +100

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:08 AM

10. Watch--they'll be doing this furiouly for evey new appointee

The work of destroying the Obama administration in every sense of the word won't ever stop. Even after we have a new president. The Modern Repubs have no positive programs, so the only thing they do is rat fuck the other side as much as possible.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:08 AM

11. Lawrence O'Donnell says because they want John Kerry for SOS

Said it on his show last week.

It's probably being done for at least a triple payoff:
- Whip up a case for impeachment of PBO
- Another gopper into the Senate
- Dog whistles to the racists in the base

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Response to We People (Reply #11)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:41 AM

14. See above. O'Donnell is wrong as is Limbaugh who is pushing the same idea.

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Response to Mass (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:51 AM

17. Thanks, you're right - have been a little hit-or-miss catching up w/this issue for a few days. n/t

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:16 AM

12. She's not a Republican

And they want John Kerry for the job so Scott Brown has another shot at a Senate seat.

But really, "She's not a Republican" is pretty much reason enough.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:48 AM

15. IMHO

I think the main reason is because they (the Republicons') want John Kerry to be SOS, so it will open up his seat in the Senate, thus giving the right wing a chance to eventually capture his seat, if not with a full-fledged winger, then by a right leaning Democrat. It's definitely not because she isn't qualified. Or because she is a black woman. It may also have something to do with the fact that they are continuing on with the agenda they have held thusfar... to refuse anything that POB proposes to make him look like a failed president.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:51 AM

16. She's "uppity"

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:53 AM

18. They're not afraid of her. They are trying to gin up a made up scandal against Obama.

and, given that Rice was the one reading the talking points, they go after her.

Just a bunch of morons thinking they have the next Watergate.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:24 PM

20. Simple - she's INTELLIGENT!

 

They hate that.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:20 PM

22. Because they lost the mantle of foreign policy to Obama. He

and Hillary have done a fantastic job. It is one of the reasons the GOP lost the election. McCain and the GOP want to sully Democrats foreign policy bonafides and the only way to do that is to get a substandard SOS. Rice would make an excellent one. So they attack her.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:22 PM

23. This isn't about her specifically.

First, it is about revenge for the President winning another term. Second, it is about pushing anyone out for SoS except Kerry, the other candidate. Kerry becoming SoS means that it will be easier to keep gridlock.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:33 PM

24. Could be they don't like powerful, effective women in government.

That thought occurred to me.

Oh, yes...she's also not white, I hear.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:46 PM

25. Well, one thing is true

They have the media and Democratic base driving themselves nuts over something that did not happen.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:52 PM

26. I don't think they're afraid of her necessarily,

but I do think they'd prefer to see PreO appoint John Kerry and give repugs a shot at his seat in Mass.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:57 PM

27. From he Boston Globe

In her sure-footed ascent of the foreign-policy ladder, Rice has rarely shrunk from a fight. But now that she appears poised to claim the top rung — White House aides say she is President Obama’s favored candidate for secretary of state — this sharp-tongued, self-confident diplomat finds herself in the middle of a feud in which she is largely a bystander.


‘‘Susan had a reputation, fairly or not, as someone who could run a little hot and shoot from the hip,’’ said John Norris, a foreign-policy specialist at the Center for American Progress. ‘‘If someone had told me that the biggest knock on her was going to be that she too slavishly followed the talking points on Benghazi, I would have been shocked.’’

Rice’s record


At the UN, and in posts in the Clinton White House, Rice, who turned 48 on Saturday, has earned a reputation as a blunt advocate, relentless on issues like pressuring the regime in Sudan or intervening in Libya to prevent a slaughter by Moammar Khadafy.

She was a Rhodes scholar, has degrees from Stanford and Oxford, a Rolodex of contacts, and a relationship with Obama sealed during his 2008 campaign. So her ascension to lead the State Department would be less a blow for diversity — she would, after all, be the second black woman named Rice to hold the job — than the natural capstone to a fast-track career.
http://bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2012/11/18/susan-rice-was-pinch-hitting-when-she-spoke-about-benghazi-days-after-attack/WEYAmPBDc97vFY3OZmIOzK/story.html

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 05:45 PM

30. Best answer to why Repubs don't want Rice as Secretary of State

The real reason for not wanting her as Sec?

Remember the story:

A scorpion wanted to cross the river but did not know how to swim and would drown if it tried. He saw a croc nearby and asked if he could get a lift on it's back. The croc refused, saying that the scorpion would sting him. The scorpion insisted it would not, reasoning that if it did, they both would die (croc from the sting and the scorpion from drowning). The croc thought about it and agreed to give the scorpion a lift across the river. Half way across the river, the scorpion stung the croc. As the croc was dying, it asked the scorpion why it stung him, now dooming them both to certain death? The scorpion replied, "It's in my nature" !!

So to answer your question why the Repugs did not want Rice as Sec:

Because by nature, the Repugs are Assholes !! Always were and always will be !!

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