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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:24 PM

Here Is What Louisiana Schoolchildren Learn About Evolution







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Reply Here Is What Louisiana Schoolchildren Learn About Evolution (Original post)
JaneyVee Nov 2012 OP
ananda Nov 2012 #1
mick063 Nov 2012 #4
ReasonableToo Nov 2012 #37
JeffHead Nov 2012 #2
madaboutharry Nov 2012 #3
Sadiedog Nov 2012 #5
MountainLaurel Nov 2012 #16
WinkyDink Nov 2012 #17
MountainLaurel Nov 2012 #21
XemaSab Nov 2012 #6
bluestateguy Nov 2012 #7
AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #8
Fumesucker Nov 2012 #9
former-republican Nov 2012 #12
demwing Nov 2012 #27
Ilsa Nov 2012 #10
former-republican Nov 2012 #11
Odin2005 Nov 2012 #13
riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #25
Odin2005 Nov 2012 #29
abelenkpe Nov 2012 #32
Odin2005 Nov 2012 #36
abelenkpe Nov 2012 #44
Odin2005 Nov 2012 #45
ReasonableToo Nov 2012 #38
riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #39
chollybocker Nov 2012 #14
IDemo Nov 2012 #15
MountainLaurel Nov 2012 #18
WinkyDink Nov 2012 #19
Fumesucker Nov 2012 #23
demwing Nov 2012 #20
BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #26
demwing Nov 2012 #28
Initech Nov 2012 #22
nolabear Nov 2012 #24
BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #30
nolabear Nov 2012 #31
SpartanDem Nov 2012 #33
BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #35
SpartanDem Nov 2012 #34
Canuckistanian Nov 2012 #40
DreamGypsy Nov 2012 #41
TexasBushwhacker Nov 2012 #42
Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #43

Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:26 PM

1. That is creepy..

.. like some kind of children's horror movie,
except it's real.

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Response to ananda (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:31 PM

4. All children should watch this

 

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Response to mick063 (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:01 PM

37. Here's another video to check out...

Bill Maher has a chat with a scientist from the Vatican... (a good chat)

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:28 PM

2. Goebbels would be proud.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:31 PM

3. That is pathetic.

Americans are so ignorant.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:32 PM

5. Is this from a public school text?

If so it is very disturbing!

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Response to Sadiedog (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:46 PM

16. Sort of

I would guess this is a textbook -- maybe from the Beka curriculum -- from one of the religious "schools" receiving public funds from the state via either voucher money or as a charter school.

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Response to MountainLaurel (Reply #16)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:49 PM

17. There is no "sort of". Is it or isn't it a PUBLIC SCHOOL text?

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #17)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:52 PM

21. I'm not the OP

But if you're asking if it's a school receiving public money, the answer is yes.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:32 PM

6. What book is this?

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:32 PM

7. A lot of Louisiana college freshmen will be failing intro biology

When they go to public universities and bring those twisted ideas with them, they won't make it past their first exam.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:33 PM

8. Most evolutionists don't believe that there was one great flood? Don't they know that the world was

 

flat before it (apparently through a miracle) became a sphere?

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:36 PM

9. Oooh.. Do they have Dinosaur Jesus in there?

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:38 PM

12. I have been proven wrong

 



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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:02 PM

27. The little dino is so cute

listening for the heart of Jesus, trying to find the juicy parts, it's just adorable!

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:36 PM

10. And Americans wonder why we are

Falling behind other countries in STEM?

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:37 PM

11. Anyone with brains knows people were on earth before dinosaurs.

 

There were no dinosaurs in the garden of Eden.

Why are some people so dumb.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:41 PM

13. Colleges should accept no applicants who graduate from these schools.

Colleges should not have to be forced to engage in remedial education because RW Christo-Fascists want their kids taught BS.

Once they realize that their kids will get nowhere in life by teaching them mythology as fact thing will change.

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:57 PM

25. Uhm, you assuming these kids GO to regular colleges and not Liberty U, Bob Jones, or Regent U

where this kind of teaching is MANDATORY for admission.



There is a whole sub-strata of society that's being built to accommodate these fools. They are infiltrating government, the military, school boards and more. I'd like to think there are enough of us to out-weight the religious crazies but from my perspective they seem to be gaining strength and numbers (and influence).

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Response to riderinthestorm (Reply #25)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:25 PM

29. I doubt most businesses accept degrees from Liberty U and other propaganda centers.

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #29)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:40 PM

32. Our credit union employs as their financial advisor

A fellow who proudly displays his diploma from liberty university. Had an appointment with him once to discuss our family's investments, looked up and saw his diploma and could not have gotten out of there faster. Wtf?! Certainly not trusting that guy with our investments.....

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Response to abelenkpe (Reply #32)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:59 PM

36. WTF?

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #36)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:27 PM

44. exactly

pretty sure I stood up mid sentence with this look:

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Response to abelenkpe (Reply #44)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:32 PM

45. LMAO!

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #29)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:03 PM

38. Republican administrations will hire them...

...as policy advisors and lawyers.

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #29)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:08 PM

39. Uhm, how quickly Monica Goodling (Sr Advisor to Alberto Gonzalez)

and others of her ilk are forgotten.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/06/AR2007040601799.html

I repeat, there's a MAJOR problem with this sub-strata of religious whackjobs and their access via the rightwing religious network of crazies linked into our nation's biggest power brokers (remember "The Family").

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:44 PM

14. Fuuuuuuuuuck.

"So dinosaurs and man would have lived at the same time. God's word is always accurate. We can trust it to be true even in areas of science."

Very convincing argument! Did Bobby Jindal write this book?

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:46 PM

15. Man is the highest level of animal?

Says who?

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:49 PM

18. "We don't look at the quality of the curriculum"

Under Louisiana's Constitution, any nonpublic school getting state money must be certified as providing a curriculum or specialized course of study at least equal to those required for similar public schools.

But it's questionable whether that requirement is being met for the 377 schools in the state voucher program.

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"We don't look at what they teach," he said. "We look at the system. We look at policies and procedures, not what they teach. It's how they teach and not what they teach."

A public records request to view curricula submitted by nonpublic schools found that neither BESE nor the Department of Education requires them to submit copies of their curricula or copies of the books they use.


This is in blatant violation of the SCOTUS ruling that allowed vouchers in addition to the state constitution.

http://www.theadvertiser.com/article/20121119/NEWS01/121119011

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:50 PM

19. OP's title needed the word "SOME."

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #19)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:55 PM

23. What? Is this the AP version or something?

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:51 PM

20. I don't believe this is from a public school

and if it is, I really wonder why any DUer would question a progressive's desire to homeschool their child

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Response to demwing (Reply #20)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:00 PM

26. that's the point- it's from a publicly funded private school.

 

nice stuff- huh?

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Response to BlueMan Votes (Reply #26)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:07 PM

28. Jesus wept

Cause his children were so fucking stupid

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:53 PM

22. Why am I suddenly reminded of Jesus Camp?

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:57 PM

24. I want to know where this came from. I don't know any kids who've had that.

I grew up in Southern Mississippi, my neices and nephews in the Louisiana school system, and none of us was taught scripture or Creationism. Private schools, all bets are off. I've heard that some public schools do, but have never actually known any.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #24)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:28 PM

30. the times they are a-changin'...

 

private schools- now with public financing.

it's a brave new world.
and i don't grok to it.

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Response to BlueMan Votes (Reply #30)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:32 PM

31. What school? I'm not arguing, just curious.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #31)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:41 PM

33. Not sure but LA greatly expanded it's voucher program

This would be funny if it werenít so, well, not funny.

A biology textbook used by a Christian school in Louisiana that will be accepting students with publicly funded vouchers in the fall says that the Loch Ness Monster in Scotland is real. And it isnít just any monster but a dinosaur ó an effort to debunk evolution and bolster creationist theory.

The story, reported in the Scotsman newspaper in Scotland, says that Eternity Christian Academy in Westlake is one of the many Christian schools in the United States that uses these books published by Accelerated Christian Education.
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The reason all of this matters now to the public is that Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal recently signed a law that sets up the largest voucher program of any state in the country. Some 125 private and religious schools from across the state are qualified to participate in the Louisiana Believes program, which gives families public money to pay school tuition for their children

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/loch-ness-monster-real-in-biology-textbook/2012/06/26/gJQAPhwr4V_blog.html

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Response to nolabear (Reply #31)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:49 PM

35. here's a thread with more info on the subject...

 

14 Wacky "Facts" Kids Will Learn in Louisiana's Voucher Schools
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021847558

and a link to the article it's about-

http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2012/07/photos-evangelical-curricula-louisiana-tax-dollars

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:43 PM

34. Links?

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:10 PM

40. "Evolutionists"? WTF?

Why don't they come right out and say "Darwinists"?

This is fringe anti-science stuff. I can't believe this is in a friggin' textbook in a public school.

Oh, I weep for a society that does this. It's literally a giant step backwards in thinking.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:26 PM

41. Looks like this post was copied directly from a BuzzFeed article...

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/here-is-what-louisiana-schoolchildren-learn-about

None of the interesting questions posed by repliers here are answered, as far as I can tell, eg. which textbooks, what children, what schools, etc.

There is a link on the BuzzFeed page subheading ' as competing theories' to http://www.bjupress.com/resources/science/grade-5/

I poked around a bit and didn't discover the particular texts shown in post/buzzfeed article.

More research is needed.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:00 AM

42. As a former biology teacher what really irks me

beyond the idea of teaching creationism in a science class at all, is that they don't teach it right!

"if this were true simple life forms would ALL be buried in the lowest layers of rock" - No. Simple life forms could be found in all layers of rock. Simple life forms still exist. More advanced life forms would only be found in higher, younger layers of rock.

"It appears that most fossils were buried during a SUDDEN catastrophe like the Flood." Nonsense. The fossil record indicates that more of the Earth was covered with water than is covered now. Nothing indicates it was sudden.

"The animals that lived longer were buried in the top layers of rock." - The fossils of the plants and animals that lived more RECENTLY are found in the top layers of rock.

etc.

If the explain evolution in a nonsensical way, it's no surprise kids won't understand it or accept it. Of course they don't want them to.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:40 AM

43. Frightening indeed. How on earth do these morons expect civilization to maintain when

 

they are churning out unthinking, superstitious ignoramuses?

I guess their magical sky-man will have to take over and run everything. But wait, that would be Communism.

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