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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:08 PM

WTF !!! - There's A SNOW Warning... For The San Jaoquin Valley ???

The Northwest has been pounded all day... Fairly calm here in Sacto... so far.






And they're calling it a Hurricane... look at the URL below... plus Al Roker said that this storm will "feel" like a hurricane, earlier today.

From: http://www.intellicast.com/Storm/Hurricane/PacificSatellite.aspx?animate=true



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Reply WTF !!! - There's A SNOW Warning... For The San Jaoquin Valley ??? (Original post)
WillyT Nov 2012 OP
Shrike47 Nov 2012 #1
SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2012 #2
PufPuf23 Nov 2012 #9
SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2012 #19
dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #28
PufPuf23 Nov 2012 #31
CountAllVotes Nov 2012 #36
dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #37
Viva_La_Revolution Nov 2012 #3
Old Codger Nov 2012 #4
WillyT Nov 2012 #10
marlakay Nov 2012 #5
longship Nov 2012 #6
amandabeech Nov 2012 #35
longship Nov 2012 #38
amandabeech Nov 2012 #39
Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #7
tularetom Nov 2012 #8
WillyT Nov 2012 #14
HappyMe Nov 2012 #11
CreekDog Nov 2012 #12
Tree-Hugger Nov 2012 #18
MNBrewer Nov 2012 #13
marmar Nov 2012 #15
Tree-Hugger Nov 2012 #16
vanlassie Nov 2012 #17
Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #21
vanlassie Nov 2012 #24
Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #25
DreamGypsy Nov 2012 #20
fearnobush Nov 2012 #22
WillyT Nov 2012 #26
DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #23
shanti Nov 2012 #27
allan01 Nov 2012 #29
CountAllVotes Nov 2012 #30
WillyT Nov 2012 #32
CountAllVotes Nov 2012 #33
WillyT Nov 2012 #34

Response to WillyT (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:13 PM

1. Up in Eugene we're getting buckets of rain but no white stuff.

It's 54 degrees right now so it won't snow but the wind is kinda exciting.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:16 PM

2. I don't recall ever seeing "hurricane" like systems in the northern pacific.

I haven't heard anything about this, so thank you for posting.

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Response to SleeplessinSoCal (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:21 PM

9. Columbus Day storm in 1962?.

The Columbus Day Storm of 1962 (also known as the Big Blow, and originally as Typhoon Freda) was an extratropical cyclone that struck the Pacific Northwest coast of the United States on October 12, 1962. The storm ranks among the most intense to strike the region since at least 1948, likely since the January 9, 1880 "Great Gale" and snowstorm. The storm is a contender for the title of most powerful extratropical cyclone recorded in the U.S. in the 20th century; with respect to wind velocity, it is unmatched by the March 1993 "Storm of the Century" and the "1991 Halloween Nor’easter" ("The Perfect Storm"). The system brought strong winds to the Pacific Northwest and southwest Canada, and was linked to 46 fatalities in the northwest and Northern California resulting from heavy rains and mudslides.

more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbus_Day_Storm_of_1962

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Response to PufPuf23 (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:42 PM

19. Wish I could say this was before I was born ....

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Response to SleeplessinSoCal (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:22 PM

28. Nov and Jan were often months of huge storms in the PNW

I remember the 1962 one, I was in Seattle, and I remember esp. the huge storm of 13 February 1979 which blew down the long Hood Canal Floating bridge:
"The Hood Canal Bridge suffered catastrophic failure during the February 13, 1979 Windstorm. During the night the bridge had withstood sustained winds of up to 85 mph (137 km/h) and gusts estimated at 120 mph (193 km/h), and finally succumbed at about 7:00 a.m., February 13. The western drawspan and the pontoons of the western half had broken loose and sunk, despite the drawspan being opened to relieve lateral pressure."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hood_Canal_Bridge

which was a jaw dropping Big Deal from a BIG storm that spring.
Wind gusts of 120, many huge trees down, I was stuck in an old log cabin for 3 days with no power, no access to the road.

Hurricane strength winds/storms are not uncommon in the NW..they come in straight lines, as opposed to the rotating ones down here in the South.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #28)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:44 PM

31. They hadn't finished cleaning up the damage from Columbus Day 1962 when the

Christmas 1964 flood hit Oregan and northcoast California. By the time I was 12, I lost my home twice (also 1955) to flood. My home town and home now is one of the towns listed as destroyed. My childhood home was buried where just part of the roof stuck out of the residual silt. There was not road access until May and even then only temporary Bailey and wooden bridges. When the Willamette flooded in 1995(?), I was trapped with wife and step daughter for 4 days on what turned into an island south of Corvallis OR and was expected to flood but lucked out. Freaking out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_flood_of_1964

Starting December 21, intense downpours all across Northern California caused numerous streams to flood, many to record breaking levels. California Governor Brown declared 34 counties in the region disaster areas. Together, Del Norte, Humboldt, Mendocino, Siskiyou, Trinity, and Sonoma counties sustained more damage than the other 28 counties combined. Twenty-six U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) stream gages were destroyed.

North Coast

The Eel, Smith, Klamath, Trinity, Salmon, and Mad and other rivers and large streams all went well beyond flood stage and peaked nearly simultaneously around December 21 and 22, breaking previous records (especially those set in the "hundred year" flood of 1955 in most cases). Sixteen state highway bridges were destroyed in California's 1st congressional district, most of them on Highway 101, and another ten county bridges were destroyed in Humboldt County. The flood devastated the tracks and multiple stream and river crossings of the Northwestern Pacific Railroad, the region's one major railroad, and related spur lines.

Many communities of Del Norte and Humboldt counties suffered massive power outages and were left isolated (or completely cutoff from the rest of the state for a period), including the region's larger populated areas around Humboldt Bay, such as Eureka and Arcata, despite the fact that those cities were located on higher ground and not in the path of raging rivers. Unfortunate riverside communities like Klamath, Orleans, Myers Flat, Weott, South Fork, Shively, Pepperwood, Stafford, and Ti-Bar were all completely destroyed by flood waters, some of which were never rebuilt and none regained their former status. Metropolitan, Rio Dell, and Scotia were significantly damaged. Crescent City, still recovering from the tsunami created by the 1964 Alaska earthquake only nine months earlier, also suffered from the floods




Seems like there was a tsumai in 1964 too.

"After the magnitude 8.6 Good Friday Earthquake (Friday, March 27, 1964), tsunami struck Alaska, British Columbia, California, and coastal Pacific Northwest towns, killing 121 people. The waves caused by the Tsunami were up to 23 m tall, and killed 11 people as far away as Crescent City, California."

This is a really good YouTube.

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Response to PufPuf23 (Reply #31)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:48 PM

36. you still see the signs on 101

With where the water levels were at that time. It is odd at best to be driving down a freeway and seeing a marker sign some 10 feet above where the water level was marked.

I remember that flood in 1962. It was big news in SF Bay Area at the time. It wiped out the northcoast nicely best I remember.

Sheesh, I'm awfully close to the ocean and the rivers and it is blowing hard out there right now.

I hope it passes through FAST!

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Response to PufPuf23 (Reply #31)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:55 PM

37. That '64 quake was a memorable one.

I missed the 7.1 a few years back.
Been very lucky, never been in a flood zone.
hurricane, tornado, earhtquake, forest fire and volcano areas, tho.
Keeping fingers crossed that locusts do not attack, the love bugs down here are bad enough.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:16 PM

3. 100 mph hour winds recorded near Tillimook

we had some 50mph gusts here in pdx, and LOTS of rain is still coming down.

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Response to Old Codger (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:23 PM

10. Man... Thank You... I Hope You're Correct




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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:17 PM

5. Tons of rain

Here in mid wa state...too warm for snow, mid 40's.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:18 PM

6. Forecast here in west MI... 50+ degrees all week.

Go figure. It has only been below freezing a night or two this autumn. Last winter there was very little snow and only a couple of nights below zero Fahrenheit.

I am hoping for the same this winter because I may have real trouble here in the Manistee National Forest if it gets brutal. Simple Social Security barely pays for heat. Thank goodness I have an old, and very efficient fuel oil furnace. Also, my place has great insulation.

Even as an atheist I pray for a mild winter.

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Response to longship (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:40 PM

35. That's bizarre.

I grew up south of Ludington, and 50 at this point would have been a second Indian Summer.

Good luck this winter. Do you have a wood stove? My mom has one and it helps.

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Response to amandabeech (Reply #35)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:08 AM

38. Nope.

I have a fireplace. But if I light it, all the heat goes up the chimney, and the furnace never turns off. It's pretty to have a fire at the old hearth, but the heat going up the flew is very costly. I prefer to keep it shut and burn the heating oil.

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Response to longship (Reply #38)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:46 AM

39. Yes, I understand that fireplaces don't really heat.

You've written that you're on a very limited budget, but if there's any way that you can put aside a little savings, you might want to see if any pre-owned fireplace inserts available. I know that the new ones are $1000 at the least, but pre-owned might be more reasonable.

It's just that there's so much firewood in the area that it isn't expensive.

One of my friend's parents live near my mom. The Mr. built a beautiful field stone fireplace in a family room addition back in the '70s. Even with the fans, etc., it didn't heat anything. They then got a fire place insert and it heats the family room plus the dining area and kitchen that open into the family room. It is very cozy.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:20 PM

7. Oh goodie!

And us with no heat in the house. FUCK!

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:21 PM

8. I'm looking west toward the valley from my back porch

and all I can see is a beautiful sunset. Not a snowflake in sight.

Prolly going to be a lot of fog tomorrow - glad I'm up out of it.

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Response to tularetom (Reply #8)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:25 PM

14. Yep...I'm In Wilton... And It's Lovely...

But Al Roker said that this sytem would "feel" like a hurricane in the NorthWest.

I want to trust these guys, but...


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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:23 PM

11. Holy smokes!

Stay safe and warm & dry, everyone.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:24 PM

12. more likely that is forecasting tule fog so common in the SJV

not expected to even get below 40 until the storms are well past us.

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #12)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:31 PM

18. It's a Dense Fog Advisory for SJV nt

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:25 PM

13. But not for the surrounding mountains?

Something about that map looks a bit fishy. A glitch?

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:26 PM

15. 60 and sunny in southeast Michigan today......


....... pretty much the same forecast for the rest of the week. Stunning late November weather.


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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:28 PM

16. Not a hurricane

It's a sizable low pressure system, though. I guess he meant that it will feel like a hurricane because some areas will experience hurricane force gusts, but it doesn't have the sustained winds. Intellicast doesn't call it a hurricane. It's the name of their satellite for that region. There's a hurricane satellite for the Caribbean and Atlantic, too. It's because the satellites show cloud temperatures, which is something of note during hurricane season (ends on November 30). Lots of rain with that system, though. Geez. Stay warm and dry!!

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:29 PM

17. Naw. That's a fog warning.

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Response to vanlassie (Reply #17)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:45 PM

21. Whew!

You're right. That IS fog.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #21)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:53 PM

24. It was pretty thick in S Fresno and Fowler this AM.

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Response to vanlassie (Reply #24)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:00 PM

25. Yep.

I was near the fairgrounds this morning and it was socked in pretty good.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:43 PM

20. The rumors of a 'hurricane' are greatly exaggerated...

The report was "Northwest storm to ‘feel like a hurricane'", sort of like the "Romney victory to 'feel like a landslide'". I think the weather forecaster had some residual election hyperbole to expend.

There were downed trees and some flooding causing road closures in the coast range of Oregon this morning. Had some exciting winds here, outside of Springfield, around 2:00. Couple of big branches from the neighbors cottonwoods came down. I decided to get the dogs into the house so they wouldn't investigate. The peak wind speed recorded in our fields was only 13 mph, so no big deal, but the evening is still young. Up to ~.5 inches of rain so far and it's coming down hard.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:47 PM

22. Welcome to my world. Went from 85 mph winds with Sandy to a foot of snow

One week later. Good luck everyone in the pacific NW.

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Response to fearnobush (Reply #22)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:02 PM

26. How Ya Doin ???




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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:51 PM

23. It's In The 70s In The SFV/nt

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:15 PM

27. noooooooooooooooo!

say it ain't so! i'm driving down to LA tomorrow! rain is what i don't want!

on edit: it's tule fog???? gaaaaaaaah!

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:42 PM

29. WTF !!! - There's A SNOW Warning... For The San Jaoquin Valley ??? View profile

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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #30)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:05 PM

32. Best Head Down To The Tip-Top... Although The Caspar Inn Has Better Timbers...






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Response to WillyT (Reply #32)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:36 PM

33. Believe me,

I'm hunkered down here expecting the worst. Got my new fab flashlights (LED! ) and lets see, a turkey in the frig waiting for Thanksgiving.

I really hope the power doesn't go out for too long.

Its howling up a storm and lots of rain and ... whatever else there might be. Warm actually, mushrooms are sprouting up all over I bet!

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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #33)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:39 PM

34. You Stay Safe


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