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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:59 PM Nov 2012

Boys after unattainable body image

It is not just girls these days who are consumed by an unattainable body image.

Take David Abusheikh. At age 15, he started lifting weights for two hours a day, six days a week. Now that he is a senior at Fort Hamilton High School in Brooklyn, he has been adding protein bars and shakes to his diet to put on muscle without gaining fat.

"I didn't used to be into supplements," said Mr. Abusheikh, 18, who plans on a career in engineering, "but I wanted something that would help me get bigger a little faster."

Pediatricians are starting to sound alarm bells about boys who take unhealthy measures to try to achieve Charles Atlas bodies that only genetics can truly confer. Whether it is long hours in the gym, allowances blown on expensive supplements or even risky experiments with illegal steroids, the price American boys are willing to pay for the perfect body appears to be on the rise.

In a study to be published on Monday in the journal Pediatrics, more than 40 percent of boys in middle school and high school said they regularly exercised with the goal of increasing muscle mass. Thirty-eight percent said they used protein supplements, and nearly 6 percent said they had experimented with steroids.

Overall, 90 percent of the boys in the survey - who lived in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area, but typify what doctors say is a national phenomenon - said they exercised at least occasionally to add muscle.

"There has been a striking change in attitudes toward male body image in the last 30 years," said Dr. Harrison Pope, a psychiatry professor at Harvard who studies bodybuilding culture and was not involved in the study. The portrayal of men as fat-free and chiseled "is dramatically more prevalent in society than it was a generation ago," he said.

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/muscular-body-image-lures-boys-into-gym-and-obsession-294443

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Boys after unattainable body image (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Nov 2012 OP
Does the survey indicate that it's to look a certain way, or is it for performance in athletics? Brickbat Nov 2012 #1
Fitness isn't a bad thing. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #2
My son began working out at age 12 Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #4
Working out 6 days a week is also a problem. tridim Nov 2012 #5
Whey powder is dirt cheap. Drahthaardogs Nov 2012 #8
I'm drinking 1/2 gallon a day. Zero problems. tridim Nov 2012 #11
old routine Drahthaardogs Nov 2012 #13
I buy only organic milk now argiel1234 Nov 2012 #23
Steroid abuse is more prevalent then Bulimia Eyes of the World Nov 2012 #3
and then years later, these boys will experience all the bad effects of too much steroids quinnox Nov 2012 #6
There are few, if any, lingering effects of steroids. Drahthaardogs Nov 2012 #9
Steroid overuse? Hell yeah there are.... Blue_Tires Nov 2012 #18
There is such a thing as responsible AAS use by *adults* War Horse Nov 2012 #20
I was not replying to the OP, I was replying to the poster who Drahthaardogs Nov 2012 #24
my 17 yr old read this and then said... well, duh. that is an obvious. seabeyond Nov 2012 #7
"Shallow" is trendy. Igel Nov 2012 #10
rather deal with a problem with kids going overboard with exercise snooper2 Nov 2012 #12
Well the DU consensus seems to be that it's OK if boys have unrealistic body image problems Fumesucker Nov 2012 #14
13 responses (before yours) and that's a "consensus" of DUers? riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #17
The one right above mine set me off Fumesucker Nov 2012 #19
Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Nov 2012 #30
to be clear, two boys with very different bodies, an awareness how we are fuckin up our kids seabeyond Nov 2012 #26
Charles Atlas is hardly an "unattainable body image" War Horse Nov 2012 #15
This is not new; Charles Atlas ads were in '50s comic books; he died in '72 FarCenter Nov 2012 #25
That's the main stupidity of the article bhikkhu Nov 2012 #29
I don't think boys should have to go through those types of bad self image problems either. Jamastiene Nov 2012 #16
excercise and fitness is great! ibegurpard Nov 2012 #21
That is scary and makes me feel sad. MadrasT Nov 2012 #22
Once again, parents need to be involved in their kids' lives. Not Me Nov 2012 #27
I am 64 and take my steroids every 2 weeks. I wondered all my life why I could not gain LiberalArkie Nov 2012 #28

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
4. My son began working out at age 12
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:11 PM
Nov 2012

He used hi-protein supplements through high school. Today he is 30, works out and runs regularly, doesn't smoke, doesn't do drugs and is a moderate drinker. He's also a tax attorney. Fitness is a good thing...but as you say, the steroids are a problem.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
5. Working out 6 days a week is also a problem.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:12 PM
Nov 2012

As is loading up on protien powder when whole milk works just as well at about 1/10th the price.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
8. Whey powder is dirt cheap.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:18 PM
Nov 2012

Egg protein is more expensive, harder to find, but in my opinion, has always been a superior product. It digests slower and is a complete protein. Milk at $4.00/gallon is expensive when you are trying to get 2-3 grams of protein in per day per pound of body weight. Plus drinking a gallon of milk has other consequences. Supplements are a great way for an athlete to get extra nutrition without having to constantly eat. Trust me, when you have to eat 5000 calories a day, it gets a bit cumbersome.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
11. I'm drinking 1/2 gallon a day. Zero problems.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 05:19 PM
Nov 2012

But I do enough squats and burn most of it off. I have a real butt and thighs now!

I think milk is underrated, at least if your gut can tolerate it. $3.20 @ Costco.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
13. old routine
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 07:08 PM
Nov 2012

Squats and milk is a classic bulking routine but do not discard high quality protein supplements

 

argiel1234

(390 posts)
23. I buy only organic milk now
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:12 PM
Nov 2012

all the protein, none of the hormones and stuff to give digestive problems

although im not into it for the muscle

 
3. Steroid abuse is more prevalent then Bulimia
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:08 PM
Nov 2012

and other eating disorders.

One might conclude that young males are as affected by self-image issues as young females.

Maybe more.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
6. and then years later, these boys will experience all the bad effects of too much steroids
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:12 PM
Nov 2012

on their body. Young and dumb.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
9. There are few, if any, lingering effects of steroids.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:19 PM
Nov 2012

Most of the hype is just that, hype. There are a few that are best avoided, but contrary to popular belief, nobody ever actually died of steroid use.

War Horse

(931 posts)
20. There is such a thing as responsible AAS use by *adults*
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:01 PM
Nov 2012

Even though most who start out that way tend to go overboard if they keep on using.

But AAS use by teens. Any AAS... Just NO! It's asking, no begging, for trouble. Not saying you're condoning it, not at all, but that was what the OP was about, so it might be a good idea to keep that in mind.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
24. I was not replying to the OP, I was replying to the poster who
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:30 AM
Nov 2012

believes that early steroid use has a proven track record of latent disease. It does not.

Teens should avoid the stuff like the plague, although I do not necessarily agree that it is literally "begging" for trouble. I personally think that if we can legalize marijuana, we should legalize steroids. Unlike marijuana whose benefits are questionable, responsible steroid use by consenting adults under a physician's care could have great improvements in the quality of life of many individuals. Even the UK allows steroid use. I grow so weary of the Bible Belt and their imposed morality.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
7. my 17 yr old read this and then said... well, duh. that is an obvious.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:15 PM
Nov 2012

then i got to listen to a half hour of so many kids in his class, and sport that do the unhealthy for the purely shallow appearance.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
10. "Shallow" is trendy.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 05:02 PM
Nov 2012

It's the fashionable thing to be.

Selfish, too.

Had one kid argue that I was going overboard and she had proper compassion for people. She considered herself compassionate because she didn't object to people doing good things for others, as long as they didn't reduce what they were doing for her. She wasn't about to help anybody. She wasn't about to accept a reduction in help. Her wants trumped others needs.

Not an uncommon trait.

Sounds like a slam-dunk conservative position, but I'm talking about an avid Obama fan here.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
12. rather deal with a problem with kids going overboard with exercise
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 05:21 PM
Nov 2012

then the lazy bastards sitting on the couch playing Halo...

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
14. Well the DU consensus seems to be that it's OK if boys have unrealistic body image problems
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 07:13 PM
Nov 2012

What a fucking surprise.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
17. 13 responses (before yours) and that's a "consensus" of DUers?
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 07:46 PM
Nov 2012

And in reality, only one of those responses even comes close to being okay with the OP imho...

FWIW, I am NOT okay with it. I think its a crime what we have done to American youth in regards to body image ideals with our marketing.

So please step back a bit before you accuse this community as having some kind of consensus on this with such a small response base.

And add my name to those who firmly believe we have a BIG problem in our country - for both boys and girls.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
19. The one right above mine set me off
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 07:51 PM
Nov 2012

And the one promoting the safety of steroids for kids was over the top too.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
26. to be clear, two boys with very different bodies, an awareness how we are fuckin up our kids
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:46 AM
Nov 2012

In so many ways, in our house it is all about health, balance, self acceptance and appreciation.

No, I do not approve of unhealthy projection of self worth thru the shallow mirror of body.

War Horse

(931 posts)
15. Charles Atlas is hardly an "unattainable body image"
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 07:38 PM
Nov 2012

What a weird thing to include in an article. That's a pretty healthy, old school look for kids to try to obtain. Nothing wrong with lifting weights, trying to get bigger and stronger and using supps. The problem is that kids think supps are a replacement for real food, and at the same time freaking out if they don't have an 8-pack on their skinny frames while barely subsisting on a 1000 kcal diet as they try to build muscle while simultaneously running twice per day. That's where the body image madness comes in.

The six percent who have used steroids is a very, very real concern. I see too damned much of it. Using 'protein supplements' and 'steroids' in the same sentence does nothing to address that problem, though. Quite the contrary, sadly.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
25. This is not new; Charles Atlas ads were in '50s comic books; he died in '72
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:42 AM
Nov 2012

Tarzan was also presenting an unattainable ability to swing through the tree tops. Don't attempt this from your garage roof.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Atlas

bhikkhu

(10,715 posts)
29. That's the main stupidity of the article
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:29 PM
Nov 2012

Charles Atlas wasn't even all that buff, by bodybuilder standards, and his physique would be classed as "mesomorphic", and natural to about a third of males.

Of course steroids are terrible for anybody, and way too easily attainable and abused. The problem is that, while the goal for anyone should be mental and physical health, it is bent towards simply the appearance of health.

Having had several friends who used steroids to "bulk up", I believe that the old saw about how "muscle turns to fat" once you stop training may come from that, indirectly. Steroids, one way or another, wreck your metabolism in the long-term and lead to eating and weight problems. Desire to be and look fit and healthy shouldn't be made out as the big problem, but like anything else you have to self-educate and plan on spending the time. I don't think this generation of kids gets enough support in that area.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
16. I don't think boys should have to go through those types of bad self image problems either.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 07:44 PM
Nov 2012

Girls have to go through this and now boys are going through it too. It's a sad day when kids can't just grow up free from these unattainable body image issues. I wish there was a way to teach them to work out and exercise a healthy, moderate amount and accept those results and not try to become a real life version of a Photoshopped picture on a magazine.

Not Me

(3,398 posts)
27. Once again, parents need to be involved in their kids' lives.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:18 AM
Nov 2012

Physical activity, whether it be putting a ball through a hoop, running on a trail, or lifting weights can all be good for kids. Infinitely more so than sitting in front of a computer screen hour after hour. It should be supported.

The article (to me) points out a problem that I see with parents that may or may not even be aware of their son's activities.
Open up, have a discussion. One of the best things you can do for him (or her) is to get him a good trainer for a couple months to ensure that they know what they are doing, and not inviting injury.

Related, A couple weeks ago I was at the gym and saw a guy perhaps 40 years old, with his Down's syndrome son...spending time with him, showing him how to properly lift. It was a thing of beauty.

LiberalArkie

(15,713 posts)
28. I am 64 and take my steroids every 2 weeks. I wondered all my life why I could not gain
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:43 AM
Nov 2012

muscles no matter how much exercising I did. I did not find out until I was 60 that my testosterone level was 90. It should have been at my age more than 400. My doc figured it was always too low. Some of the guys at work were real skinny and worked out and never gained muscles, I told them to have their T level checked and low and behold they were real low also.

It is hard to develop muscles and have a healthy heart without testosterone.

I was reading where it is a real trend for guys to have a real low level these days. Something in the food ? who knows.

Some guys can't gain weight or muscles without the proper T level some can not keep the weight off without the correct level.

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