Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:08 PM
yellowcanine (24,444 posts)
Pat Robertson: Miserable Atheists trying to steal Christmas
“The Grinch is trying to steal our holiday,” Robertson complained. “It’s been so beautiful, the nation comes together, we sing Christmas carols, we give gifts to each other, we have lighted trees and it’s just a beautiful thing.”
He added: “Atheists don’t like our happiness. They don’t want you to be happy. They want you to be miserable. They’re miserable so they want you to be miserable. So they want to steal your holiday away from you.” http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/19/robertson-atheists-miserable-and-trying-to-steal-christmas-like-the-grinch/ For someone who professes to be so happy he sure complains a lot.
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| yellowcanine | Nov 2012 | OP | |
| valerief | Nov 2012 | #1 | |
| AsahinaKimi | Nov 2012 | #2 | |
| onehandle | Nov 2012 | #3 | |
| Care Acutely | Nov 2012 | #7 | |
| RC | Nov 2012 | #32 | |
| The Velveteen Ocelot | Nov 2012 | #4 | |
| AsahinaKimi | Nov 2012 | #9 | |
| The Velveteen Ocelot | Nov 2012 | #15 | |
| yellowcanine | Nov 2012 | #20 | |
| AsahinaKimi | Nov 2012 | #35 | |
| louis-t | Nov 2012 | #49 | |
| AsahinaKimi | Nov 2012 | #52 | |
| Aristus | Nov 2012 | #51 | |
| AsahinaKimi | Nov 2012 | #53 | |
| richmwill | Nov 2012 | #12 | |
| losangeleslibker | Nov 2012 | #40 | |
| LibertyLover | Nov 2012 | #64 | |
| Sekhmets Daughter | Nov 2012 | #5 | |
| LadyHawkAZ | Nov 2012 | #41 | |
| Sekhmets Daughter | Nov 2012 | #45 | |
| Buns_of_Fire | Nov 2012 | #6 | |
| csziggy | Nov 2012 | #54 | |
| deutsey | Nov 2012 | #8 | |
| geardaddy | Nov 2012 | #10 | |
| Shrike47 | Nov 2012 | #11 | |
| Chiyo-chichi | Nov 2012 | #13 | |
| Buns_of_Fire | Nov 2012 | #30 | |
| Spike89 | Nov 2012 | #37 | |
| larocks4552s | Nov 2012 | #14 | |
| phleshdef | Nov 2012 | #16 | |
| PoliticAverse | Nov 2012 | #17 | |
| DefenseLawyer | Nov 2012 | #18 | |
| Marrah_G | Nov 2012 | #21 | |
| Marrah_G | Nov 2012 | #19 | |
| DinahMoeHum | Nov 2012 | #27 | |
| yellowcanine | Nov 2012 | #22 | |
| Marr | Nov 2012 | #23 | |
| DinahMoeHum | Nov 2012 | #26 | |
| MadrasT | Nov 2012 | #24 | |
| bluestate10 | Nov 2012 | #25 | |
| AnotherMcIntosh | Nov 2012 | #28 | |
| Zoeisright | Nov 2012 | #29 | |
| Smilo | Nov 2012 | #31 | |
| LeftishBrit | Nov 2012 | #33 | |
| losangeleslibker | Nov 2012 | #44 | |
| RebelOne | Nov 2012 | #34 | |
| Mariana | Nov 2012 | #66 | |
| Ganja Ninja | Nov 2012 | #36 | |
| louslobbs | Nov 2012 | #38 | |
| aquart | Nov 2012 | #39 | |
| JNelson6563 | Nov 2012 | #42 | |
| kydo | Nov 2012 | #43 | |
| ThoughtCriminal | Nov 2012 | #46 | |
| Scuba | Nov 2012 | #47 | |
| Tree-Hugger | Nov 2012 | #48 | |
| tjwash | Nov 2012 | #50 | |
| AnnaLee | Nov 2012 | #55 | |
| Warpy | Nov 2012 | #56 | |
| Initech | Nov 2012 | #57 | |
| lob1 | Nov 2012 | #58 | |
| SammyWinstonJack | Nov 2012 | #59 | |
| Le Taz Hot | Nov 2012 | #60 | |
| spanone | Nov 2012 | #61 | |
| Stinky The Clown | Nov 2012 | #62 | |
| Stinky The Clown | Nov 2012 | #63 | |
| lapislzi | Nov 2012 | #65 | |
| Initech | Nov 2012 | #67 |
Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:09 PM
valerief (35,667 posts)
1. Jesus H., what a hemorrhoid that asshole is. nt
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:10 PM
AsahinaKimi (18,067 posts)
2. I wish the Grinch
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Would visit Robertson... what a hateful man!
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:11 PM
onehandle (35,364 posts)
3. Atheists/Agnostics I know have Christmas trees and say, 'Merry Christmas.'
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Last edited Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:34 PM USA/ET - Edit history (3) All of them except one high school friend. He can be a dick.
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Response to onehandle (Reply #3)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:17 PM
Care Acutely (1,370 posts)
7. Yup - some even send Xmas cards
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It's a holiday about peace, love & togetherness.
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Response to Care Acutely (Reply #7)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:50 PM
RC (21,596 posts)
32. Not for some Christians, it ain't.
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It's all about them and their particular beliefs.
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:14 PM
The Velveteen Ocelot (34,692 posts)
4. This agnostic loves Christmas.
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I enjoy the lights and the parties and buying gifts for people and the food and the music and all the other holiday bling. I also sing in two church choirs. I don't buy the magic stuff but I love the music. And I am not even slightly miserable.
Stop projecting, Pat, you horrid old troll. You're miserable because you realize that many millions of people think you and your hateful "religion" are irrelevant, and are increasingly rejecting your nasty church and your perverse theology. |
Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:18 PM
AsahinaKimi (18,067 posts)
9. I thought that Christmas trees was part of a
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Pagan tradition? And, Robertson is cool with this?
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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #9)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:27 PM
The Velveteen Ocelot (34,692 posts)
15. Much of what we do at Christmas is not actually Christian.
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If Jesus was real, he probably would have been born in the Spring, not on Dec. 25, but the early Christians co-opted the Roman holiday of Saturnalia, which probably arose from a far older celebration of the return of light following the winter solstice. Christmas trees are a very old Germanic pagan tradition that didn't become widely popular among Christians until the 19th century. Christmas absorbs a whole bunch of traditions. Maybe that's why it's fun, even if you aren't a believer.
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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #15)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:34 PM
yellowcanine (24,444 posts)
20. Exactly. Some Christian groups do not allows trees, etc.
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Jehovah's Witnesses forbid the celebration of Christmas altogether.
And the modern American Christmas is essentially a cultural and commercial holiday, not a religious one. |
Response to yellowcanine (Reply #20)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:53 PM
AsahinaKimi (18,067 posts)
35. "Kurisumasu" in Japan is an entirely different thing...
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Last edited Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:56 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) While only less then 1% of the population is Christian, the rest are Shinto~Buddhist, and still Celebrate Kurisumasu as a romantic holiday much like we do Valentines day. Gifts are exchanged, dinners are served to loved ones.. for some reason the Japanese adopted Colonel Saunders image as a Japanese Santa Claus. I suspect that KFC pushed for this with the holiday packages.
The best part about "kurisumasu" is the cake!!
The holiday itself is really minor compared to the big holiday which is New Years. Many people still work on Kurisumasu, but its like here in that people buy trees, and decorate and buy gifts.
In Japanese they say: Meri Kurisumasu to Yoi Otoshi yo! (Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year!) |
Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #35)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:19 PM
louis-t (12,496 posts)
49. Thanks for the post. I learned something new!
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Colonel Sanders in a red suit. Wow!
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Response to louis-t (Reply #49)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:24 PM
AsahinaKimi (18,067 posts)
52. I intend to do a whole posting soon about Kurisumasu in Japan
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As the Holiday approaches..
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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #35)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:21 PM
Aristus (29,292 posts)
51. I love Santa Claus's Japanese name.
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'Faza Kurisumasu'.
Father Christmas... |
Response to Aristus (Reply #51)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:26 PM
AsahinaKimi (18,067 posts)
53. ^^ hontou ne! (really!)
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Lots of totemo kawaii words in Japanese, ne!
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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:24 PM
richmwill (1,270 posts)
12. You are so right...
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"You're miserable because you realize that many millions of people think you and your hateful "religion" are irrelevant, and are increasingly rejecting your nasty church and your perverse theology."
You totally nailed it. The miserable old man can't believe that his fantasy-world of a nation full of Christian Conservatives is fading away. |
Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:56 PM
losangeleslibker (62 posts)
40. I'm an agnostic
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Last edited Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:57 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) But I was born Catholic/Jewish. I still love celebrating Christmas and Hanukkah every year. Just because I don't believe in the concept of religion doesn't mean I'm miserable. My whole family isn't really that religious but we still have fun during the holidays. My dad's an agnostic but a republican, go figure.
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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:06 PM
LibertyLover (4,127 posts)
64. Heck, this Wiccan loves Christmas
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My religious holy day is Yule, the Winter Solstice, but Christmas is the family/social holiday and I freakin' love it. Pat, shut up.
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:14 PM
Sekhmets Daughter (6,972 posts)
5. I'm an atheist
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and I am far from miserable. In fact, I am far happier than the miserable Pat Robertson.
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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #5)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:00 PM
LadyHawkAZ (3,877 posts)
41. We get to be happy year-round
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Robertson gets to be happy one day a year.
Who's jealous of who again? |
Response to LadyHawkAZ (Reply #41)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:05 PM
Sekhmets Daughter (6,972 posts)
45. LOL!
Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:16 PM
Buns_of_Fire (8,223 posts)
6. Robertson launches pre-emptive strike in annual War on Christmas!
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Geez, it seems the War on Christmas starts earlier and earlier each year...
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Response to Buns_of_Fire (Reply #6)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:28 PM
csziggy (14,189 posts)
54. The other day in the supermarket they had Christmas music on
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And at the checkout I was telling my husband I was not ready to be in the holiday spirit. The nice checker who came over to bag our groceries (my husband had started to and she had no customers) asked me what I had against holidays. I told her because I was ready to WIN the war on Christmas. She totally cracked up and we all had a good laugh.
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:17 PM
deutsey (16,782 posts)
8. Sounds like he's been lighting up something other than trees...n/t
Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:18 PM
geardaddy (14,308 posts)
10. Fuck Robertson. n/t
Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:20 PM
Shrike47 (426 posts)
11. I'd consider stealing Christmas but I don't know where I'd put it.
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We don't have a garage and the house only has a couple of bedrooms.
I don't see listing it on EBay (shipping nightmare) and I couldn't haul it to St. Vincent dePaul. Just the ox and the donkey would need more fodder than we have available, not to mention the sheep! Do you have to feed angels? All in all, I think I'll just have to leave it be this year. |
Response to Shrike47 (Reply #11)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:25 PM
Chiyo-chichi (2,202 posts)
13. Do you have to feed angels??
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Where do you think the term "Angel Food Cake" comes from?
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Response to Shrike47 (Reply #11)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:46 PM
Buns_of_Fire (8,223 posts)
30. If you steal Christmas, then yes, the angels become your responsibility.
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They're no trouble, though, and since millions of them can fit on the head of a pin, I would think a taco or two should last through the holidays.
They take little itty-bitty sips of my beer all the time, but since the sips are so small, I never notice anything missing. There's the occasional thump! of a drunk angel bouncing into a wall, but it's never been a problem. |
Response to Shrike47 (Reply #11)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:53 PM
Spike89 (1,477 posts)
37. Watch out, dontcha know, Xmas is fragile!
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If it weren't for the tireless heroism of Pat Robertson, Xmas (TM) would be kinda forgotten like Armistice Day, or worse, it could get all confusing like those Muslim Holidays that seem to start spontaneously and only end when another one starts.
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:26 PM
larocks4552s (26 posts)
14. pot meet kettle, pat
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you utter douchebag and hypocrite.
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:27 PM
phleshdef (8,288 posts)
16. I know plenty of atheists and agnostics who celebrate Christmas, I'm one of them.
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Most of us recognize its more of a cultural holiday than a religious holiday and the Jesus stuff associated with it doesn't do us any harm.
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:32 PM
PoliticAverse (5,535 posts)
17. Can't people wait until at least after Thanksgiving to proclaim there's a war on Christmas ? n/t
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:33 PM
DefenseLawyer (8,398 posts)
18. Suck it, Pat. I totally stole your holiday.
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See, I was miserable and didn't want to be happy, but then I found what would really make me happy: stealing your holiday. Let the good times roll!
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:34 PM
Marrah_G (22,370 posts)
19. Damn Christians who stole Yule at the point of a sword!
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Why are these neanderthals even relevant in the 21st century?
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:36 PM
yellowcanine (24,444 posts)
22. I like Christmas because it is the one day when even most dickheads try to be human.
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Of course there are exceptions.
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:38 PM
Marr (13,640 posts)
23. Pagans: "Miserable Christians trying to steal Saturnalia".
Response to Marr (Reply #23)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:42 PM
DinahMoeHum (12,311 posts)
26. +1
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what goes around comes around.
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:39 PM
MadrasT (5,676 posts)
24. Pffft. I'm an atheist and I ignore Christmas.
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I also don't care if other people want to celebrate it. (Just don't expect me to participate.)
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:39 PM
bluestate10 (8,567 posts)
25. You're going to burn in hell soon enough Pat. You hypocritical Sack of Shit. nt
Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:43 PM
AnotherMcIntosh (7,459 posts)
28. He should be sufficiently happy with his TAX-FREE funds. Why isn't that enough?
Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:45 PM
Zoeisright (7,795 posts)
29. Really, Pat.
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If "Christians" are so happy, why are they so mean, hateful, and angry?
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:47 PM
Smilo (1,885 posts)
31. “It’s been so beautiful, the nation comes together,
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Last edited Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:47 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) “It’s been so beautiful, the nation comes together, we sing Christmas carols, we give gifts to each other, we have lighted trees and it’s just a beautiful thing.”
So Pat, when did you start to approve of Christmas becoming materialization of a religious holiday? |
Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:51 PM
LeftishBrit (29,611 posts)
33. Which atheists ever stopped anyone from celebrating Christmas if they wish to?
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Last edited Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:52 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) In fact, most atheists, who live in countries that celebrate Christmas, celebrate it themselves. It's a big secular holiday, not just a religious one.
The ONLY person who ever seriously tried to abolish the celebration of Christmas was Oliver Cromwell - and he was a fundie Puritan, not that dissimilar to Pat Robertson's bunch! He regarded Christmas, doubtless correctly, as closely based on a Pagan festival. And it tends, in my observation, to be Puritanical types, not atheists, who disapprove of merriment and enjoying oneself too much. |
Response to LeftishBrit (Reply #33)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:04 PM
losangeleslibker (62 posts)
44. I'm agnostic
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But I don't try to force my beliefs on others. One of my best friends is a religious Baptist but I respect him and he respects me. These religious nutcases like Robertson think that us unreligious people are out to cause chaos and rain on Christians' parades. I don't give a shit what you believe in as long as you don't force it upon me. I'm sure many other people are like me too.
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:52 PM
RebelOne (26,783 posts)
34. What is wrong with this man?
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Has he never spoken to an atheist about Christmas? We atheists enjoy the spirit of giving and being with family during the holidays.
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Response to RebelOne (Reply #34)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:02 PM
Mariana (2,334 posts)
66. He's just telling his audience what they want to hear.
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The more he does that, the more money they send him. You see, he's being perfectly rational.
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:53 PM
Ganja Ninja (15,691 posts)
36. Time to whip up the anual Holliday Hatefest.
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I swear I think you could make a mint selling tree ornaments depicting liberals being tortured in hell.
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:54 PM
louslobbs (2,364 posts)
38. LOL, look who's accusing someone else of stealing.
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Lou
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:56 PM
aquart (67,508 posts)
39. The solution would be to send him money?
Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:00 PM
JNelson6563 (24,758 posts)
42. That guy is so clueless!
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Most atheists I know enjoy the festivities that come with the season.
I suspect many of us also question the sincerity of many believers considering how incredibly commercialized the baby Jesus' birthday has become. It ain't us heathens fueling that! Julie |
Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:02 PM
kydo (345 posts)
43. Pat your late didn't you get the meme talking points for stealing christmas is now oct 31
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dude get with the times. everyone knows already the anti christmas rant was coming happens every year just like black friday. I just figured he'd take the same cue from big retail and open before black friday. He so should have been bitching and moaning in oct ... what a loser!
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:10 PM
ThoughtCriminal (9,791 posts)
46. Boo hoo
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Never had a problem with Christmas, but I just get a kick out people who get unhinged becasue I wish them "Happy Holidays". Apparently for some Christians that's worse than saying "Fuck You".
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:14 PM
Scuba (26,668 posts)
47. "They’re miserable so they want you to be miserable." Um, Pat? Project much?
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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:16 PM
Tree-Hugger (455 posts)
48. I'm afraid every Christmas morning
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That some atheist will be peeping in our windows and if they see that we celebrate Christmas, they and their army will come barging into our house, dragging us out by our hair and setting our tree and misteltoe on fire. Then, they'll tie us up on a stake and we'll be burned for our beliefs. We Christians are so persecuted.
Oh wait, that was pagan history. Sorry. |
Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:20 PM
tjwash (8,088 posts)
50. Pat Robertson..the embarrassing racist grampa of the RR
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And that's saying something
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:29 PM
AnnaLee (303 posts)
55. Atheists enjoy everyone's holidays as their own. nm.
Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:33 PM
Warpy (69,068 posts)
56. Miserable atheists love Yule and lights and Santa Claus
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They're just not overly fond of the story of that miraculous virgin birth of a half human godling with a star that nobody else on the planet noticed and the heavenly choir.
After all, the miserable bastards on Robertson's side are trying to get all the fun stuff dispensed with so Christians will concentrate on the miracle birth story to the exclusion of all the other Christmas trappings. We atheists will continue to have sparkly trees and Santa will bring the kiddies their presents in our houses and the family will get a big, fancy dinner and everybody will go to bed tired and very happy. We wouldn't trade places with Robertson's version of miserable Christian for anything. |
Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:33 PM
Initech (38,767 posts)
57. I think the fundies are the really miserable ones.
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If you may notice we atheists couldn't give less of a shit about what stores use what greetings with customers during the holiday season.
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:51 PM
lob1 (3,122 posts)
58. It's all a scam and lying Pat is the scammer.
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They do this every year to raise money.
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:12 PM
SammyWinstonJack (35,105 posts)
59. Miserable little shit stirring creature.
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Bet he really doesn't believe half the crap he pukes up so that he might .
Greed is his god. |
Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:20 PM
Le Taz Hot (14,421 posts)
60. Oh, please.
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The most miserable, back-stabbing, gossiping, lying pieces of shit I've ever known in my life were devout Christians. Went to church every Sunday and absolved themselves of all wrongdoing.
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:21 PM
spanone (72,043 posts)
61. dipshit.
Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:25 PM
Stinky The Clown (51,274 posts)
62. Religion
Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:00 PM
Stinky The Clown (51,274 posts)
63. I posted in the host group to ask the opinion of as many hosts as cared to reply. Overwhelmingly . .
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. . . they favored reopening this thread. I am happy to do so.
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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:07 PM
lapislzi (4,878 posts)
65. I didn't steal Christmas. I just downloaded it illegally. n/t
Response to yellowcanine (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:06 PM
Initech (38,767 posts)
67. Next time some asshole complains about a war on Christmas...
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I'll reply by singing those incredibly lame holiday ad parodies of Christmas songs. Take that!
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