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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:01 PM

"MY president"

I've been puzzled and a bit concerned by this phrase for some time. I know it's meant as an innocuous expression of pride and affection, but is that a healthy way to regard a politician or public figure? To me, President Obama isn't *my* anything, he's simply the latest guy hired to do a job. As with any job, personal feelings or likability should not be factors. Performance is all that really matters. Normally, I wouldn't give a second of thought to an innocent term of endearment, but it seems to underscore a division between those focused on party and those focused on policy. What say ye?

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whatchamacallit Nov 2012 OP
bluestate10 Nov 2012 #1
whatchamacallit Nov 2012 #3
MineralMan Nov 2012 #16
whatchamacallit Nov 2012 #19
Igel Nov 2012 #35
quinnox Nov 2012 #2
one_voice Nov 2012 #26
quinnox Nov 2012 #30
GETTINGTIRED Nov 2012 #4
whatchamacallit Nov 2012 #6
Igel Nov 2012 #34
NYC_SKP Nov 2012 #5
nolabear Nov 2012 #7
whatchamacallit Nov 2012 #10
nolabear Nov 2012 #25
GETTINGTIRED Nov 2012 #8
Whisp Nov 2012 #9
whatchamacallit Nov 2012 #13
Whisp Nov 2012 #21
whatchamacallit Nov 2012 #22
Whisp Nov 2012 #23
treestar Nov 2012 #39
liberalmuse Nov 2012 #11
whatchamacallit Nov 2012 #24
datasuspect Nov 2012 #12
countingbluecars Nov 2012 #14
SidDithers Nov 2012 #17
whatchamacallit Nov 2012 #20
MineralMan Nov 2012 #15
leftstreet Nov 2012 #18
Puzzledtraveller Nov 2012 #33
CakeGrrl Nov 2012 #27
madamesilverspurs Nov 2012 #28
alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #29
JaneyVee Nov 2012 #31
Puzzledtraveller Nov 2012 #32
rsweets Nov 2012 #36
treestar Nov 2012 #37
ProSense Nov 2012 #38

Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:04 PM

1. The President is no just a "guy hired to do a job". We only have one President at a time.

That President is the extension of our collective desires on how we should govern ourselves, and as such, is an extension of each of us. So, "My" is appropriate.

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Response to bluestate10 (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:08 PM

3. We only have one Secretary of State, or Treasury, or Defense

None of them are referred to as 'my'.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:36 PM

16. And none of us voted for any of those.

It is the participation that is meaningful.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #16)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:42 PM

19. Ok, good point

and the kind of opinion I was hoping to get. That said, there have been past democratic campaigns I supported and worked for that I'd like to disown now. Lol.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #19)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:55 PM

35. "My president" has an opposite.

"Not my president."

It's something that you hear when the wrong party is in power. When our side does it, it's understandable.

When their side does it, it's treasonous, because there's only one President and at that time he's one of us.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:05 PM

2. yup, lol

 

It's a small but interesting detail, often the most ardent Obama supporters speak in these terms. But I guess we all have to have heroes on the pedestal, and there are quite a few normal people who think in this way about authority figures. I'm not saying they are all sheep, but they probably tend to have a little bit of that gene.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:14 PM

26. Sheep gene?

'normal people'?

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Response to one_voice (Reply #26)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:41 PM

30. well, IMHO its nothing to be ashamed of

 

I would say most people have it, its just a matter of to what degree. Some have a lot more of it than others, and perhaps a few don't have hardly any of it at all. Since humans are designed a certain way and who knows why, its just the way it is. Sheep gene is a cute way of putting it.

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Response to GETTINGTIRED (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:10 PM

6. I like him too

I just wonder if strongly identifying clouds judgement sometimes.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:52 PM

34. Often.

As soon as you're in a group, your judgement's clouded.

Confirmation bias kicks in, shaping the narrative so that your side is good (because if it's not, then you're bad), enhancing the differences.

From sides during a dodgeball game in elementary school to Rwanda, it's all a matter of degree.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:08 PM

5. Well, not having had a president since James Carter, I like to think I have one now.

Thus the term, "my", in my case.

Still, I think I understand where you're coming from with your OP.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:11 PM

7. This man is MY president; This man is YOUR President/From California/To the NY Islands

Sing it with me now!

From the Redwood Forests
To the Gulf Stream waters,
This man was elected by you and me!!


That's what I got to say.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:13 PM

10. He is THE president. n/t

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #10)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:10 PM

25. That too. We both win!

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:13 PM

8. I love this man

It goes much deeper than someone just holding an office...he represents freedom..equality...fairness....respect....worth..
thoughtfulness....honor...pride
Unity....for me he is my President and its more than just an idea or an office .....
he is the very fiber
of what this country
stands for and means to me....
He represents what people fought and died for
Yes I truly love and respect him....
He indeed is MY PRESIDENT...

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:13 PM

9. I hear it a different way than you do.

This man with some absolutely wonderful qualities represents a lot of people.

Those lot of people see the good in Themselves when they see His
(which are so much more magnified than most of the rest of ours will never be, but we all got the same stuff basically and he gets some to recognize that).

I find it disrespectful of you to talk about the President like he is a hireling, like a pool boy or something and you are the guy behind the desk looking him up and down. He's probably be the first to admit he isn't any better than anyone else, and he probably wouldn't be offended by your offensive words. That's one of the big reason I like and admire him. But I'm not Obama and I can tell you again that that is very disrespectful and you sound like you are looking for some action here from Obama supporters that care about him very much.

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Response to Whisp (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:29 PM

13. Wow, talk about illustrating my point!

Yes, the presidency is a job. The occupant of that job is not decided on-high because he is divinely worthy, but by us because he was the best choice of the offered applicants. Where the fuck do you get 'pool boy' or any of that other projected nonsense? Would you continue to elevate the stature of the president if Mitt Romney had won? Would you call him 'your president'? I think not.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:46 PM

21. I don't think anyone here said My President to Bush nor would they have to Romney

My President is a respect that neither of those deserve/d.

The President works for the country as a whole, not for individuals, so yah, that pool boy thing still fits in my opinion.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #22)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:49 PM

23. lol.

you made me laugh.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:20 PM

39. Then I hope you know the limits of that job

And are not one of the people blaming him when Congress does not go along. Not one of the ones claiming he should "fight for me" - then he need only run the part of the government he is supposed to run.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:18 PM

11. I think it's also a protective term.

There's an awful lot of hate being flung at President Obama. A lot of people disavowing and slandering him. It's just some people's way of recognizing his legitimacy - kind of the opposite of the "Not My President" Bush years.

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Response to liberalmuse (Reply #11)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:50 PM

24. Interesting perspective

Thanks.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:25 PM

12. it was silly when they did it for dubya

 

it's silly now.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:33 PM

14. This is a silly post meant

to divide IMO. It reminds me of the "cheerleader" name calling on DU after Obama was first elected.

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Response to countingbluecars (Reply #14)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:39 PM

17. +1...nt

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #17)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:44 PM

20. Thanks for the opinion, Driveby!

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:34 PM

15. In the sense that I voted for him, campaigned for him, and

helped get him elected, President Obama is indeed my President. Since I am also a US citizen, he is my President on that count as well.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:39 PM

18. It always sounds like 'My Savior' to me n/t

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #18)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:47 PM

33. Yea, "My" is creepy n/t

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:15 PM

27. I liked that Bill Clinton specifically referred to POTUS that way in his stump speeches.

With all the nasty birther b.s. going around and all the ugly attempts by the RW to marginalize a black President as an "other", I like this reference more and more as the antidote.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:34 PM

28. He is my president because




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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:36 PM

29. Pffffffft

"...underscore a division between those focused on party and those focused on policy..."

Does the self-congratulation ever end?

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:44 PM

31. I am an American citizen, therefore he is my president.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:45 PM

32. Couldn't have said it better.

I agree completely with your statement.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:12 PM

36. hey... he's my guy

ya' gotta have go to guy right??

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:17 PM

37. You wouldn't say My Senator or My Congressman?

It's the person in your district (the President has one big district).

I was told often enough that Bush was My President by righties. He was. I wouldn't have referred to him like that, but he still was.


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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:20 PM

38. "What say ye?"

He's my President.

I voted for him and he didn't loose!!!

I take it that pisses off two sets of people.



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