nev. brothel owner rides to victory

[xchrom]

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FILE - In this July 18, 2007 file photo, brothel owner Lance Gilman is interviewed inside the newly renovated World Famous Mustang Ranch near Patrick, Nev. Gilman is the first brothel owner to win election to public office in Nevada since prostitution was legalized here in 1972. (AP Photo/Reno Gazette-Journal, Andy Barron) NEVADA APPEAL OUT, MAGS OUT, NO SALES

RENO, Nev. (AP) -- Lance Gilman is a thriving businessman with dozens of employees. That those workers include a good many prostitutes didn't faze the people of a rural Nevada county who recently elected him as a Storey County commissioner by a wide margin.

The Mustang Ranch brothel owner is the first such owner to win election to public office in Nevada since prostitution was legalized here in 1971, Nevada historian Guy Rocha said. And he's believed to be the first to do so in the state's 148-year history

"He's in rare company," Rocha said. "Of course, it's going to be rare because the business of selling sex for money is illegal in every jurisdiction in the United States except in rural Nevada."

Some two dozen brothels legally operate in 10 of Nevada's 17 counties. Prostitution is illegal in the counties that include Las Vegas and Reno, the state's population centers.

[marmar]

1. The Talibangelical wing of the Republican Party won't be too thrilled.

nt

[Flashmann]

2. The Talibangelical wing of the Republican Party won't be too thrilled.

That,alone,almost automatically means this is a good thing......

[madokie]

3. +10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

[meow2u3]

26. The Talibangelicals are probably his best customers

[seabeyond]

10. any repug doesnt give a shit as long as they are voting for their interest. havent we seen this

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repeatedly on the national stage?

they ditch their supposed moral compass always, to get a repug in office.

[progressoid]

12. Like one of their leaders?

[darkangel218]

4. I dont think prostitution should be legal.

But thats just my opinion, and it doesn't count.

[Scuba]

5. Job creator?

[napoleon_in_rags]

6. The people are sick of seeing their money sent to a shadow state.

We are sick of shadow bankers, shadow security forces, shadow anything. We are sick of seeing our states become bankrupt while the money goes to shadowy drug cartels, shadowy sex work cartels, shadow banking cartels. Therefore, individuals who work in these sectors who are willing to step up, and carry the moral work of caring for the people of the state without shame, are and should be heroes. The people of Nevada thus made a good choice here.

[seabeyond]

7. “dye-in-the-wool Republican" who sells humans beings for money. yea, lets cheer. in a rural setting

where he probably drove the women he sells, to vote for him and little competition.

but, here on du, because he sells women for his greedy profit (any other "businessman" would not get the same applause) we start an OP to congratulate this repug a winner.

interesting.....

[RevStPatrick]

8. Where's the cheering?

What the fuck are you talking about?
I don't see any cheering "here on du, because he sells women for his greedy profit."
It's an interesting article, but it didn't look to me like someone "start(ed) an OP to congratulate this repug a winner."

[Upton]

9. Do you have a link..

backing up your assertion that this Lance fellow drove women out there to vote for him?

[pinboy3niner]

11. Notice the subtle use of double entendre in the headline?

Way to sex up the story!

[Egalitarian Thug]

13. No one is cheering, but name one business that doesn't do the same.

And he is required to so safely, and they are well paid.

[GermanSmoker]

16. Happy he won

Something i wanted to tell you in the Playboy-Quiz Thread:

After 16 years of conservative government the red-green coalition liberalized prostitution laws to make it more like a normal job.
When the Socialdemocrats had their first run in the 70s they legalized pornography. So the things you consider "Anti-Women" came always from the left to help women get out of the dark corners and more into the center of society. Like i said, 50 % of all german men
at least visits once in their lifetime a prostitute. And I'm one of them

Women are treated way better here. We have no debates about abortion. Contraceptives are covered without any debates. Better childcare so women can have a career and childen. Our head of government is female. In a few years there will be a regulation in effect that 40% of all "Board of Directors" Members have to be female. This whole war on women and their rights don't exist here.

And i treat women as equals like i treat every other humen being as equal. But I don't judge women who chose a different path in life.
When a women wants to become prostitute or porn star it's her business. Not mine and not yours.

And I am 34.

[seabeyond]

17. except because women are such poor drivers you feel they need their own parking.

that alone tells me you have absolutely no objectivity, nor realistic perspective.

now, tell me, you are glad this man was elected. a republican. ONLY because he sells women and makes a profit?

well, as a repug, do you know if he is anti choice? do you know if he believes his business should not provide health care and the women should pay out of pocket for protection? do you know if he feels he should get tax breaks and his "girls" should pay more of their money in?

do you know any of his stance as a die in the wool repug?

no.

you simple answer is, yea.... he sells women, good for him.

[seabeyond]

18. this is a hoot. you are so fuckin enchanted with women being prostitutes that you

do not even.... at the mature age of 34, consider the consequence to the women you respect so damn much, this man being a repug. YET, as you argue your respect for these women, you have so little respect for women that you buy into the stereotype of sexism about their driving.

totally fuckin stupid.

[Upton]

21. Yep, it's the women's business..

though it would appear some here would like to make it their own. If an adult woman, or man, wants to work in some capacity in the sex industry, more power to them....

[LadyHawkAZ]

22. You're wasting your keystrokes

and painting a big shiny target on your back by talking about how much better off women are without having their sexuality criminalized. Trust me on this one. There are people here who really, really hate that idea.

Keep it up though. The rest of us appreciate it.

For the record, the guy's a Republican, which in the States means that in spite of his brothel ownership, he's probably not a supporter of women's rights. Or worker's rights. Or anyone else's rights but his own.

Welcome to DU!

[left on green only]

54. Hear, Hear. Spoken so well!!!

[Odin2005]

14. A pimp who sells women's bodies, perfect Republican.

[HopeHoops]

15. Good for him. I think brothels (male and female) should be legal everywhere.

I'm sick of the government trying to legislate "morality". Legalize pot, legalize prostitution, legalize gambling, just leave us the fuck alone.

Caveat: I've never had a prostitute and don't intend to, I smoked POUNDS of weed, and I don't gamble. It's just an attitude thing.

[geek tragedy]

19. Prostitution is the purest form of exploitation and degradation

produced by economic inequality. It's an evil, wholly distinct from victimless crimes like smoking pot.

[opiate69]

24. uh-huh...

Only if you think the acts of sex are inherently degrading and exploitative.

[geek tragedy]

25. they are when there's an element of economic coersion.

Just like sexual harassment is degrading and exploitative.

Same dynamic--economic need leveraged for sexual exploitation.

Prostituted women don't engage in that stuff because they just can't get enough sex from fat, ugly losers.

[opiate69]

27. Then every exchange of labor for money is as well.

Good luck with that.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

28. It sure feels like it some days...

[geek tragedy]

29. Why is sexual harassment illegal? nt

[opiate69]

30. Because it, by definition, implies non-consent.

Too easy...

[geek tragedy]

31. A secretary always has the right to say no to sexual advances and stay

in the work place.

How is that an absence of consent? No one's forcing her to keep that job.

[opiate69]

32. A: Harassment of many flavors in the workplace is illegal.

Sexual advances do not, necessarily, automatically constitute harassment. Harassment is defined as "the act of systematic and/or continued unwanted and annoying actions of one party or a group, including threats and demands." But whatever the case, you`re attempting to conflate consenting adults engaging in activity you find distasteful with non-consentual behaviors.

[geek tragedy]

33. So, if a woman has to engage in those acts to prevent herself

from starving to death and being homeless, that's real consent to you?

Especially in this economy?

How about the women who started when they were underage because a pimp targeted them?

Amazing how liberals turn into Ron Paul libertarians when sex is involved, completely unwilling to examine the issues of meaningful consent and economic power.

[opiate69]

36. I have to engage in acts I would rather not to keep from starving as well.

I mean, some people may enjoy slinging 70 pound shackles around all day, but there`s frankly a shit ton of things I would rather do. And as for your "underage" tangent, why do so many "liberals" seem to always try to muddy the waters by introducing clearly illegal and unrelated scenarios into discussions about consenting adults engaging in legal activities?

[geek tragedy]

37. So, why is it illegal for a boss to ask for a BJ but not ask someone

to sling 70 pound shackles, if your theory that sex is just another form of labor is correct?

[opiate69]

39. It`s not illegal in some places for a boss to expect his/her employees to engage in sex acts..

(Hint: See the article at top)

Having said that, maybe the reason it is illegal in places is because the people who fought to make sexual harassment illegal overreached. Just because something`s "not legal" doesn`t make it "wrong." (See: marrige equality for example) Of course, I`m not convinced that just asking for a sexual favor is illegal in the workplace. Demanding it, is. Because.... say it with me class.... non-consent.

[geek tragedy]

42. And we have our winning quote:

Having said that, maybe the reason it is illegal in places is because the people who fought to make sexual harassment illegal overreached. Just because something`s "not legal" doesn`t make it "wrong." (See: marrige equality for example) Of course, I`m not convinced that just asking for a sexual favor is illegal in the workplace.

The voice of male sexual entitlement has spoken.

[opiate69]

45. I`m sorry if that`s beyond your capability to understand.

Many people, male and female, don`t find human sexuality to be inherently degrading or exploitative. Interestingly enough, it`s usually the religious fundy types who love to toss around words like "evil" (as a noun) who typically do.

[geek tragedy]

48. Again, those who are unable to distinguish between opposing

all forms of sexual harassment and moral prudishness really have no credibility on this issue.

People who think that it should be legal to sexually harass employees by 'requesting' sexual favors are in the Ron Paul extremist camp.

[opiate69]

50. Asking and demanding are not synonymous.

And given the number of couples who meet and fal in love at work (it is where we spend the majority of our waking hours, after all) it would seem that there`s no shortage of sexual conversations (and, perish the thought, sexual activity) going on in the workplace.

[LadyHawkAZ]

38. Because they've been trained to think of women as helpless children

unless they fit the (patriarchal) virginity/monogamy fetish, so every sexual decision a woman makes outside that acceptable (patriarchal) mold has to be somehow conflated with the acts of a child. Real Women™ only have sex when properly married, so any woman who has sex outside of marriage must have something wrong with them and can't consent. See how that works?

It's swallowing the blue pill, and they don't even see it.

[geek tragedy]

40. Oh please. Opposing exploitation doesn't mean prudishness.

Such nuances are lost on the pro-pimp left.

[LadyHawkAZ]

43. If you genuinely feel that the women at the Mustang

are being exploited against their will, please provide proof.

[geek tragedy]

44. Meaningful consent isn't a simple yes/no question.

That's the libertarian fallacy that permitted child labor and unsafe workplaces and would allow things like organ trafficking.

[LadyHawkAZ]

46. Consent is not determined by your personal judgement. See request in above post n/t

[opiate69]

47. And right on cue, the slippery slope fallacy makes its grand re-entrance!

[LadyHawkAZ]

49. Incidentally: "Pro-pimp" i.e. supporters of sex workers are "pro-pimp"

i.e. all prostitutes are pimped i.e. it's not their fault, they're helpless children who can't make a choice.

But it's not about prudishness or misogyny or infantilization. Oh no.

[opiate69]

51. I know, right? Also, her calling all "Johns" "fat ugly losers" isn`t misandrist...

[RandySF]

53. Really?

What about an adult with kids who has to take fast food orders from rude kids all day long? And by the way, underage = non-consent under the law for ANY sexual contact.

[redqueen]

35. Well said. nt

[HopeHoops]

41. Well, pimping is pretty nasty, but free agents can do quite well.

[LadyHawkAZ]

20. Meh

The headline might as well read "Another old white businessman gets elected". If it weren't for that business being a brothel, this would be a "dog bites man" story. Get back to me when one of the brothel workers gets elected, and I'll get excited about that.

[opiate69]

23. Fuckin` A.. well said as usual, LadyHawk!

[redqueen]

34. LOL, "brothel owner"... he's a pimp

But hey, whatever, anything to legitimize it, right?

[Aerows]

55. Legalize and tax marijuana first

WAY before you start contemplating prostitution. Somebody smoking a joint is far less offensive than a young woman being yoked into a life of prostitution.