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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:22 AM

BlueMan Votes (903 posts)

Why isn't there an outcry from the religious right about "black friday"?

I know that the term for the day after thanksgiving has been around for awhile- to supposedly mark the day that many retailers started to show a profit for the year.
But- It's the first time i've seen used so widely and publicly- Mcdonald's even has a sign showing their hours for "Black Friday"...

my point...?
when i was young and going to parochial school- "Black Friday" was synonymous with "Good Friday" -the Friday before Easter- the day that the Christ died.

it seems to me that some of those groups complaining about a 'war on christmas' would pick up on that being a trivialization of the Passion, and run with it.

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Why isn't there an outcry from the religious right about "black friday"? (Original post)	BlueMan Votes	Nov 2012	OP
We all know why...	behindenemylins	Nov 2012	#1
Ding ding ding ding ding! Winner	Populist_Prole	Nov 2012	#5
Corporate Jesus also wants them to run away from discussions with evil liberals and has provided	RepublicansRZombies	Nov 2012	#16
The last thing my family has ever done	defacto7	Nov 2012	#2
this family has no choice	liberal_at_heart	Nov 2012	#3
Are those sales really that good?	defacto7	Nov 2012	#4
yup- you can get a lot of new clothes on ebay for instance, probably better made	RepublicansRZombies	Nov 2012	#19
Good quality used clothing is often better than cheaply made new stuff.	BlueMan Votes	Nov 2012	#21
I go to an art show	Warpy	Nov 2012	#26
Rev Billy and the Church of Stop Shopping	LeftInTX	Nov 2012	#6
Serious question: does anyone know how the day acquired the moniker "Black"? - n/t	coalition_unwilling	Nov 2012	#7
I think it has to do with retailers making a profit hence "in the black" vs "in the red"	LeftInTX	Nov 2012	#8
Ah, that makes sense. I've heard that it is the Xmas	coalition_unwilling	Nov 2012	#9
That's it. 25% of WalMart sales are on BF	DollarBillHines	Nov 2012	#10
That's the official reason	jmowreader	Nov 2012	#12
I just find it ironic	Shadowflash	Nov 2012	#11
a trivialization of the passion?	brokechris	Nov 2012	#13
The term "happy holidays" offends these people.	BlueMan Votes	Nov 2012	#15
Black Friday is an retail industry term than went viral	ProgressiveProfessor	Nov 2012	#14
the term "Black Friday" has also been used for the friday before easter...	BlueMan Votes	Nov 2012	#23
It is also called Good Friday...	ProgressiveProfessor	Nov 2012	#24
exactly.	BlueMan Votes	Nov 2012	#25
Because the religious right is all about them dollars.	Iggo	Nov 2012	#17
Right, money is all they really care about	larocks4552s	Nov 2012	#18
BLACK SABBATH	datasuspect	Nov 2012	#20
They're all camped out in front of the local Wal-Mart, that's why. n/t	librechik	Nov 2012	#22
Because they've "Sold Their Souls to the Company Store" n/t	maxrandb	Nov 2012	#27
Because they're fake Christians.	CheapShotArtist	Nov 2012	#28

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:32 AM

behindenemylins (41 posts)

1. We all know why...

$$$

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:30 AM

Populist_Prole (2,476 posts)

5. Ding ding ding ding ding! Winner

Interesting how they scream bloody murder about any remotely perceived slight of "their" holiday, yet they blissfully look the other way at the crass commercialism.

Corporate Jesus I guess.

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:03 PM

RepublicansRZombies (982 posts)

16. Corporate Jesus also wants them to run away from discussions with evil liberals and has provided

the perfect excuse...

Shopping!!

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:33 AM

defacto7 (3,255 posts)

2. The last thing my family has ever done

is go shopping the Friday after Thanksgiving. Ain't no way I go out on that day.

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:46 AM

liberal_at_heart (3,583 posts)

3. this family has no choice

finally getting my kids winter clothes. Jeans are especially expensive so we load up on jeans and long sleeve shirts.

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:09 AM

defacto7 (3,255 posts)

4. Are those sales really that good?

We get our bargains buying off season. We get winter stuff in the spring and summer and vice versa. I think stuff is even cheaper if you look around the rest of the year. And you don't take you life in your hands fighting crowds.

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:19 PM

RepublicansRZombies (982 posts)

19. yup- you can get a lot of new clothes on ebay for instance, probably better made

I know it supports ebay, but it also helps support other Americans who bought too much stuff and are trying to pay their bills off.

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:31 PM

BlueMan Votes (903 posts)

21. Good quality used clothing is often better than cheaply made new stuff.

I buy most of my clothes on ebay- ALL of my sweaters are cashmere, and all of my flannel is portuguese.

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:50 PM

Warpy (69,124 posts)

26. I go to an art show

I'll support local artists and craftspeople. To hell with corporations.

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:40 AM

LeftInTX (2,212 posts)

6. Rev Billy and the Church of Stop Shopping

Last edited Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:41 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

http://www.revbilly.com/

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:42 AM

coalition_unwilling (14,180 posts)

7. Serious question: does anyone know how the day acquired the moniker "Black"? - n/t

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:09 AM

LeftInTX (2,212 posts)

8. I think it has to do with retailers making a profit hence "in the black" vs "in the red"

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:17 AM

coalition_unwilling (14,180 posts)

9. Ah, that makes sense. I've heard that it is the Xmas

shopping season that puts retailers into a profit for the year, if there are to be profits.

Weird though, because 'Black' connotes calamity in other contexts (like the stock market).

Thanks for that annotation. Much appreciated.

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:25 AM

DollarBillHines (1,922 posts)

10. That's it. 25% of WalMart sales are on BF

In the Black

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 05:56 AM

jmowreader (23,921 posts)

12. That's the official reason

The real reason, I always thought, is it is the first day of the Siege of Stalingrad the rest of y'all call the holiday season. Retailers appreciate the business, but the line workers do not appreciate getting screamed at as much as they do on BF. And it's usually because you ran out of whatever doorbuster the customer wanted.

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 05:40 AM

Shadowflash (798 posts)

11. I just find it ironic

that we spend Thanksgiving day celebrating and giving thanks for family and what we are blessed to have and, the very next day, people are willing to go out and fight and trample other people for cheap stuff.

I avoid it like the plague, myself.

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 06:07 AM

brokechris (192 posts)

13. a trivialization of the passion?

seriously? it has nothing whatsoever with Easter. It is all about money--traditionally retailers are in the red ink (debt) before--and Thanksgiving pulls them into the black (money).

The terminology offends no one. What religious people could be offended by is that greed has taken over and is now more important than thankfulness (which is what the holiday was originally intended to be about).

Me--I'm not religious and prefer football at the local sports bar to shopping so I have no complaints.

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 12:19 PM

BlueMan Votes (903 posts)

15. The term "happy holidays" offends these people.

Last edited Mon Nov 19, 2012, 12:29 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

and it's not how i feel about it- my lutheran upbringing didn't stick. i'm athiest.

btw- if you're not religious- how can you know that 'the terminology offends no one'...?

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 12:02 PM

ProgressiveProfessor (22,144 posts)

14. Black Friday is an retail industry term than went viral

It has no religious meeting and originally was not tied to Turkeyday sales.

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:38 PM

BlueMan Votes (903 posts)

23. the term "Black Friday" has also been used for the friday before easter...

Last edited Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:40 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

so yes- it does have a religious meaning as well.

and it was a religious term long before it was a retail one.

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:47 PM

ProgressiveProfessor (22,144 posts)

24. It is also called Good Friday...

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:48 PM

BlueMan Votes (903 posts)

25. exactly.

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:09 PM

Iggo (22,305 posts)

17. Because the religious right is all about them dollars.

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:10 PM

larocks4552s (26 posts)

18. Right, money is all they really care about

Those selfish hypocrites...

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:20 PM

datasuspect (25,842 posts)

20. BLACK SABBATH

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:32 PM

librechik (25,001 posts)

22. They're all camped out in front of the local Wal-Mart, that's why. n/t

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:51 PM

maxrandb (5,236 posts)

27. Because they've "Sold Their Souls to the Company Store" n/t

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:48 PM

CheapShotArtist (315 posts)

28. Because they're fake Christians.

Last edited Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:49 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

They only pay attention to the parts of the Bible that they want to follow. The Religious Right clearly has no problems with "bearing false witness" and rich people refusing to help out the poor. Otherwise, they wouldn't have voted for Der Mittenfuhrer or the GOP in general!
The term "Conservative Christian" is nothing but an oxymoron.

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