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Sun Nov 18, 2012, 09:17 PM

Noam Chomsky: Propaganda And Control Of The Public Mind




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Reply Noam Chomsky: Propaganda And Control Of The Public Mind (Original post)
marmar Nov 2012 OP
DaniDubois Nov 2012 #1
Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #2
Whisp Nov 2012 #4
Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #6
Mojorabbit Nov 2012 #3
Octafish Nov 2012 #5
lindysalsagal Nov 2012 #7
Fumesucker Nov 2012 #8
LWolf Nov 2012 #9
Coyotl Nov 2012 #10

Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 11:59 PM

1. People are waking up. Once you recognize it for what it is, there's no turning back.

 

If you like that one, you'll love these.



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Response to marmar (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:15 AM

2. 13 recs and only one (other) comment.

 

Noam is not particularly popular here since he has an unfortunate tendency to state facts and talk about actual history that are nonconforming to the Party Line so enthusiastically propelled here.

But here's a recycle & R

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Response to Egalitarian Thug (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 04:24 PM

4. Noam was my best teacher

I read the Propaganda book many years ago and it was like a thunderbolt out of the sky to how I saw the world. Previously I saw things pretty naively and how the media wanted me to see it - not saying I'm some guru on the Truth now but it sure changed how I thought about just about Everything after reading that thing. Sometimes I wish I hadn't read it, because ignorance truly is bliss.

I disagree with Chomsky on some things but over all, he is a treasure to the world for how honest and direct he is about how the system really works and who it works for.

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Response to Whisp (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 06:55 PM

6. Totally agree and I always keep in mind that he is, if not an advocate, at least resigned

 

to the ruling class. The three people that I believe did more to wake me up to reality were Chomsky, Zinn, and Bernays (my great grandmother as well, but she's not widely known).

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 04:15 PM

3. It is always good to have this reminder

of how things are under the surface

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:24 AM

7. Noam reminds us that things don't "happen:" The free market isn't free.

Until we wake up and think for ourselves, we are part of someone's plan, and their plans favor them over us. Every time.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:41 AM

8. Isn't Chomsky a conspiracy theorist really?

His core argument is that things are most definitely not what they seem on the surface, that's the default position of the conspiracy theorist as far as I can tell.

Chomsky's telling us not to trust our leaders, that they have a hidden agenda. It seems reasonable that Chomsky isn't excluding Democrats from his broad brush criticisms so he is implicitly stating that Democrats are part of the conspiracy he posits.

Not that I disagree to any great extent with Chomsky, mind you.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #8)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 08:31 AM

9. Anyone

who trusts politicians because of a brand or a team could use an infusion of conspiracy theory, imo.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #8)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 08:52 AM

10. That is realism. We all know the public persona and private reality of politicians does not match

Or, if you have the slightest understanding of history, you should realize that.

"Iím Not a Crook"
http://jqjacobs.net/anthro/discourse.html
The Public Face
and Private Political Reality
of Richard M. Nixon

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