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Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:27 PM

Do you believe Anonymous stopped Rove from stealing Ohio?


I personally have no idea but I have no problem with it being a subject for debate. I think both sides are making good points.
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I am pretty sure they stopped him as several reporters (Vanaty Fair contributor etc.) have pointed out major discrepencies.
22 (58%)
I have no idea and could be convinced either way.
10 (26%)
I don't think they did, there would have been too many eyes on Ohio from around the world plus CIA, FBI.
6 (16%)
Other, please explaine
0 (0%)
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Reply Do you believe Anonymous stopped Rove from stealing Ohio? (Original post)
Quixote1818 Nov 2012 OP
1monster Nov 2012 #1
Quixote1818 Nov 2012 #2
cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #3
teddy51 Nov 2012 #4
Heather MC Nov 2012 #6
cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #14
teddy51 Nov 2012 #20
gravity Nov 2012 #5
demwing Nov 2012 #7
GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #12
JackRiddler Nov 2012 #17
pacalo Nov 2012 #8
randome Nov 2012 #9
Godhumor Nov 2012 #10
randome Nov 2012 #11
JackRiddler Nov 2012 #15
teddy51 Nov 2012 #22
JackRiddler Nov 2012 #13
Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #16
yardwork Nov 2012 #18
Marr Nov 2012 #19
ecstatic Nov 2012 #21

Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:32 PM

1. Whether they stopped him with a fire wall, or simply by messing with the heads of some

of the conspirators, or a combination of both and perhaps other methods, I believe that Anonymous played an important and viable role in keeping Rove from stealing Ohio.

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Response to 1monster (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:33 PM

2. Agree 100%. nt

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:36 PM

3. Too much editorializing in the poll.

Last edited Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:53 PM - Edit history (1)

It isn't right to offer a binary choice burdened with extraneous assumptions. It should just be yes or no.

My answer is "no" but my reasoning is not perfectly represented by the question as phrased.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:39 PM

4. Rove would not have been so upset, except he was certain he had it in the bag. I think something

 

went horribly wrong with his attempted steal!

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Response to teddy51 (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:04 PM

6. Agreed!

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Response to teddy51 (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:55 PM

14. Have you ever spent 300 million dollars of other people's money

and staked your professional reputation on a effort that failed?

How upset are you supposed to be?

I don't get the "why was Rove so upset?" thing.

If Obama had lost I would have been pretty upset and I didn't even have my professional life on the line.

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Response to cthulu2016 (Reply #14)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:52 PM

20. I want to know what was in Husted's patch! Was Rove involved in something with Husted?

 

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:04 PM

5. No to the conspiracies

The real effort to steal the election was by voter ID laws, voter purgers and long lines. The courts and Obama's GOTV effort prevented the Republicans from stealing Ohio.

All those thinking that Rove has some evil switch that will flip the election but was foiled at the last minute by a hacker group has been watching too many movies.

Romney's campaign couldn't even gets its killer app ORCA working properly. What makes you expect them to devise so elaborate scheme to steal the election using computers?

It's much easier to just have laws to make it harder for Democratic leaning supporters to vote.

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Response to gravity (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:14 PM

7. "Other" ^^^this^^^ /nt

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Response to demwing (Reply #7)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:51 PM

12. Yep.

On the other hand, nothing surprises me any more, and it wouldn't surprise me if Anonymous stopped some sort of vote machine hacking, either. I wouldn't put it past Rove and the rethugs to try to pull something like this. Right now, I'm not convinced by any means that they did.

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Response to gravity (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:01 PM

17. Those are conspiracies.

Purges, long lines, etc.

I think you should stop abusing the language.

Also, your bizarroland logic: Sure, the known criminals at the core of Rove's and related operations would bully, cheat, lie, deceive, mislead, raise false accusations, and deploy terror and fear to literally steal the election, and they have done so before ... definitely in 2000, probably in 2004 ... but! Only retail! Never wholesale! That would be unsporting.

Are you really saying they would not steal it electronically if they could?

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:15 PM

8. I have a strong feeling *something* went wrong for Rove but there's no way to know for sure

that Anonymous had a hand in it except for the pre-election "Rove is being watched" video & the post-election claim made to Velvet Revolution.

I can't get over the fact that, despite having such a sleazy candidate that I've never before seen in my lifetime, Karl Rove was so sure that RobMe could actually win this election. Dick Morris adamently said it would be a landslide. RobMe only prepared a victory speech. The fireworks were ready to go.

Something went wrong for those skunks.

Whatever the case, I'm grateful that this wasn't another 2000 outcome. I don't think we could have swallowed another dose of blatant election chicanery.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:40 PM

9. We won the election.

Everyone who wants to think -without any evidence- that some super-secret cyber agency saved us are the people who still pray to Santa Claus for gifts.

It's bullshit. And I'm sad to see so many people on DU willing to believe anything -whether it's good or bad- without evidence of some sort.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:47 PM

10. I am amazed this CT hasn't been relegated to our creative speculation area

Frankly, I think it makes DU look crazy.

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Response to Godhumor (Reply #10)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:49 PM

11. Anonymous hears all our prayers.

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Response to Godhumor (Reply #10)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:57 PM

15. I'm amazed that your tolerance is so low.

As long as people think they talk to God every night and Jesus rises from the dead and you can eat him on Sundays, or that economies can grow infinitely forever, the belief that there was a failed hack attempt in the election is not even the millionth craziest idea on the planet.

Behind your "amazement," I smell a desire to censor.

For my part I'm amazed DU still draws this many people, now that it's banished or discourages most of the interesting debates and even the bankster bailout is supposed to be a good thing.

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Response to Godhumor (Reply #10)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 05:20 PM

22. That's your opinion and some of us don't share that.

 

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:51 PM

13. Other - Too much blah-blah in your answers.

Go with Yes, No, Maybe.

For example, if I wanted to answer yes: I haven't read any articles in Vanity Fair and would never choose an answer that had me accepting the spelling of Vanaty.

I figure the "Anonymous" letter is a hoax -- or a bluff -- but there are indicators (like 11:13) that a steal was intended but somehow went wrong.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:58 PM

16. One of the naysayers claimed DU was populated with

'gullible new agers'. This made me lean toward Anonymous stopping a coup.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:02 PM

18. I don't know if it was Anonymous, but somebody stopped Rove from stealing Ohio

and probably several other states as well.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:04 PM

19. I think big claims require big evidence, and they've offered none.

If I had to make a call, I'd say no, they did not do what they claim. If they had, and had a lick of sense, they'd have also provided evidence at the same time.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 05:02 PM

21. I know it's painful to accept, but our elections are not secure

Instead of burying our faces in the sand, we need to find ways to fix it.

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