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Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:02 PM

Franklin Graham: God May Have to Cause "A Complete Economic Collapse" to Save Nation From Obama

Franklin Graham: God May Have to Cause "A Complete Economic Collapse" to Save Nation From Obama
But the conservative leader is praying for the president before the final (economic) days arrive.
By David Corn | Fri Nov. 16, 2012 11:52 AM PST

Some conservatives are having a tough time with President Barack Obama's reelection. Take social conservative leader Franklin Graham. In an interview with Newsmax.com, the Rev. Graham, a prominent evangelist and son of top-dog evangelist Billy Graham, maintained that Obama's victory will put the country further along a "path of destruction." And he suggested it would take a "complete economic collapse" to place the United States on a better course and return it to godliness.

Graham equated the Obama years with a national rejection of God. "In the last four years, we have begun to turn our backs on God," he said. "We have taken God out of our education system. We have taken him out of government. You have lawyers that sue you every time you mention the name of Jesus Christ in any kind of a public forum." Oddly, Graham ignored the fact that he and other shepherds of the Christian right have griped about such matters for much longer than four years. It didn't start with Obama.

As Graham denounced the Obama years, Newsmax's Kathleen Walter asked, "So we've become too secular a nation? How do we bring God back into government?" Graham replied:

Maybe God will have to bring our nation down to our knees—to where you just have a complete economic collapse. And maybe at that point, maybe people will again begin to call upon the name of almighty God.

Economic calamity was the one option Graham mentioned—as if only such a disaster could move the United States in the right direction.

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Source URL: http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/11/franklin-graham-god-economic-collapse-obama

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Reply Franklin Graham: God May Have to Cause "A Complete Economic Collapse" to Save Nation From Obama (Original post)
ErikJ Nov 2012 OP
ANewEra Nov 2012 #1
superpatriotman Nov 2012 #2
edhopper Nov 2012 #3
catbyte Nov 2012 #4
NightWatcher Nov 2012 #9
treestar Nov 2012 #5
n2doc Nov 2012 #6
jberryhill Nov 2012 #7
liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #8
Volaris Nov 2012 #25
PDJane Nov 2012 #10
Wounded Bear Nov 2012 #11
ErikJ Nov 2012 #17
njlibguy_19656mm Nov 2012 #12
Initech Nov 2012 #13
Blue4Texas Nov 2012 #14
Gregorian Nov 2012 #15
Tom Ripley Nov 2012 #16
Viva_Daddy Nov 2012 #18
gollygee Nov 2012 #19
Autumn Nov 2012 #20
Zoeisright Nov 2012 #21
PCIntern Nov 2012 #22
longship Nov 2012 #23
PA Democrat Nov 2012 #24
hrmjustin Nov 2012 #26
Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #27
mike_c Nov 2012 #28
Squinch Nov 2012 #29
Grammy23 Nov 2012 #30
struggle4progress Nov 2012 #31
NastyRiffraff Nov 2012 #32
AngryOldDem Nov 2012 #33
amywalk Nov 2012 #34
47of74 Nov 2012 #35
JHB Nov 2012 #36
spanone Nov 2012 #37
hobbit709 Nov 2012 #38
tjwash Nov 2012 #39
Berlum Nov 2012 #40

Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:03 PM

1. These people are batshit crazy. nt

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:04 PM

2. Dear God,

Please stuff a sock into Frankie's pie hole.

Amen.

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:04 PM

3. All due respect,

but fuck you and your God!



Must be said with a NJ mobster accent.

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:06 PM

4. And people wonder why I despise Big Religion

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Response to catbyte (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:08 PM

9. when Big Religion went Uber Repuke, I went away

I dont recall religion = republican in years passed, but now a days these people have lost their minds.

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:06 PM

5. Same thing extremists of the left want to see

Funny both sides think their way will prevail after this "collapse."

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:06 PM

6. So explain the last year of the Bush presidency, god-speaker!

If your god is so concerned with Obama, would he not have caused an economic boom in 2008 to keep him out of office in the first place? Pretty weak and pathetic god you have there, frankie boy.

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:07 PM

7. "Not 'God Bless America' but 'God damn America'!"

IOKIYAR

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:08 PM

8. I don't care if I lost everything that was precious to me

I would not bow down to these religious zealots.

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Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:02 PM

25. yep. And, don't you feel lucky the People who WROTE OUR CONSTITUTION felt EXACTLY the same way?

I do. Frankie and his ilk couldn't pass a Jr. High Civics class at this point.

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:08 PM

10. Um....that is the GOP, frankie, not GOD.

They've done it. We're crawling out. Just because you have Obama derangement syndrome, we're supposed to do this again????

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:09 PM

11. Funny, but after our last "complete economic collapse".......

in 1929-32, I don't think we got more "godly."

In fact, I seem to remember from my history books that the country turned much more "socialistic" and, in your words, evil.

I'd be careful what you wish for, there, Frankie.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:22 PM

17. That's right. But it could go the other way too.

Thom Hartmann often says that the US luckily had a good leader when times got tough. But Germany which had the same situation went with Hitler.

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:10 PM

12. FFS

 

some people have lost their effing minds. Christ

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:11 PM

13. To quote Stephen Colbert: "This just in - Jesus has quit."

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:15 PM

14. And why my God separates Church and State

Pick one or the other Reverend

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:16 PM

15. I very rarely lose self control. But yesterday I screamed at a Republican.

I was feeling kind of regretful about it, until now.

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:18 PM

16. Frankie, have you now put Mormonism back on your cult list?

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:27 PM

18. The GOP is looking more like a cult every day.

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:28 PM

19. You need to read or watch Shock Doctrine

There are a great number of people who wait for any kind of emergency, and even would try to create an economic collapse, so they could rebuild society.

Google "Shock Doctrine" and find a video online. But I'm reading the book and it goes into much more detail (of course.)

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:29 PM

20. Keep praying asshole, my moneys on Obama that

we avoid an "complete economic collapse" , just like he stopped the last one. Fuck you.

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:29 PM

21. Why can't these fucking Grahams just go away?

I hate every one of those assholes.

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:30 PM

22. another fucking asshole praying for catastrophe...

they all think they're fucking Noah, for Crissake.

Franklin Graham, another member of the Lucky Sperm Club, Luke Russert, Chairman and CEO.

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:54 PM

23. "God hardened Pharoah's heart..."

Gees, Louise!

Why won't these Bible people stop? Yahweh does everything?

Okay! 'Splain the 2012 election, Lucy!

Maybe God hardened people's hearts against Mitt. But if Romney, like GWBUSH, was God's candidate, how could he lose?

Must've been the Mormon thing! (Just waiting for that excuse -- won't hold my breath.)

When one challenges them on these things, they inevitably collapse to "God's will be done." and God's will is unknowable.

Fine. As an atheist I can agree. But you guys spend a lot of effort, money, and political baggage saying that you do know God's will. It's a bunch of bullshit to me, and apparently many others.

If God's will is so mysterious, why don't you be honest and call yourselves agnostics?

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:57 PM

24. So what was Graham's "god" trying to accomplish when he caused 9-11

under Bush's watch?

What an idiot.

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:04 PM

26. This guy is too stupid to talk. Franklin please shut up now.

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:07 PM

27. I have zero tolerance for fundamentalist religious terrorists who call for America's destruction.

Really, isn't that what Gitmo is for?

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:08 PM

28. the crazy is strong with this one....

Even crazier-- he has an audience, instead of caregivers.

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:09 PM

29. Haters gotta hate. And many also call themselves, "Reverend."

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:13 PM

30. Why do these jack asses seem to take delight and relish in the thought of the collapse of

the United States? It's as if they want these things to happen so that afterward they can say, "Told ya so!" And they never seem to realize how treasonous it sounds for them to wish the evil and misfortune they predict to come to the citizens of our country. Best thing to do is just tune 'em out and leave them twisting in the wind. Without an audience, how else would they continue to bilk folks out of their money?

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:13 PM

31. "If I'm not right yet, let's hope for a catastrophe, cuz maybe I'll be right after the catastrophe!"

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:33 PM

32. But..but..

I thought god loved America!

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:40 PM

33. Honest to Christ, they JUST NEVER QUIT.

I don't understand why they are constantly cheerleading for the ultimate destruction of this country. It seems their warped definition of treason doesn't include that, but it does include having an African-American man sitting in the Oval Office.

I am so fucking SICK of these bastards.

And Franklin, you and I are pretty much contemporaries, and you're telling me that all this "turning our backs on God" shit began with Obama??? Where were you when your dad was having all these high-pitched arguments with Madalyn Murray O'Hare back in the '60s? If I remember them (and I was only paying half attention at the time), you sure as hell should.

You LOST. DEAL WITH IT.

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:50 PM

34. If I remember correctly, we did have an economic collapse and God, in his infinite wisdom,

Brought us President Barack Obama.

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:09 AM

35. Graham: Open mouth, insert foot

Sigh

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:16 AM

36. That's it, Frankie, show God who's boss!

Nonna dat namby-pamby "forgiveness" or "humility" stuff! Get tough with the Old Man, make sure He knows what He's supposed to do.

I mean, who does He think He is?

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:36 AM

37. spanone: go 'fuck yourself' franklin graham

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:42 AM

38. If I believed in gods, then I think I want the Greek variety. They didn't approve of hubris.

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:48 AM

39. goddess can start with the graham empire then

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Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:53 AM

40. Even the self-elected (R-Fundie) shall be deceived

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