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Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:00 PM

Recession, layoffs, uncertainty? Yet we just throw millions upon millions


in the garbage at movie theaters.



Last weekend over $135M on the top three movies.




Skyfall Sony $88,364,714


Wreck-It Ralph BV $33,012,796


Flight Par. $14,785,097

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Reply Recession, layoffs, uncertainty? Yet we just throw millions upon millions (Original post)
RB TexLa Nov 2012 OP
stopbush Nov 2012 #1
Fumesucker Nov 2012 #2
LongTomH Nov 2012 #67
leftstreet Nov 2012 #3
HiPointDem Nov 2012 #4
99Forever Nov 2012 #6
cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #20
Starry Messenger Nov 2012 #28
alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #34
quinnox Nov 2012 #5
zbdent Nov 2012 #7
RB TexLa Nov 2012 #11
zbdent Nov 2012 #22
newspeak Nov 2012 #38
salin Nov 2012 #44
RB TexLa Nov 2012 #48
PDJane Nov 2012 #51
trotsky Nov 2012 #54
RB TexLa Nov 2012 #57
PDJane Nov 2012 #58
RB TexLa Nov 2012 #61
salin Nov 2012 #71
laundry_queen Nov 2012 #75
salin Nov 2012 #80
customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #77
bluestate10 Nov 2012 #60
HopeHoops Nov 2012 #8
dionysus Nov 2012 #9
LineLineReply !
pinboy3niner Nov 2012 #18
Initech Nov 2012 #50
bluestate10 Nov 2012 #62
Initech Nov 2012 #70
trotsky Nov 2012 #53
cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #10
tritsofme Nov 2012 #12
RB TexLa Nov 2012 #14
tritsofme Nov 2012 #19
dionysus Nov 2012 #24
pinboy3niner Nov 2012 #33
bluestate10 Nov 2012 #63
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #13
WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #23
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #31
pinboy3niner Nov 2012 #32
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #36
WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #35
Ruby the Liberal Nov 2012 #15
laundry_queen Nov 2012 #76
Ruby the Liberal Nov 2012 #85
treestar Nov 2012 #16
WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #21
treestar Nov 2012 #43
SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #84
JanMichael Nov 2012 #17
SomethingFishy Nov 2012 #25
valerief Nov 2012 #26
HughBeaumont Nov 2012 #27
Drunken Irishman Nov 2012 #30
Drunken Irishman Nov 2012 #29
Texasgal Nov 2012 #37
niyad Nov 2012 #39
lunatica Nov 2012 #40
AlexSatan Nov 2012 #41
hughee99 Nov 2012 #42
spanone Nov 2012 #45
Initech Nov 2012 #46
Prometheus Bound Nov 2012 #47
Jennicut Nov 2012 #49
Initech Nov 2012 #52
Jennicut Nov 2012 #64
bluestate10 Nov 2012 #65
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #55
Rex Nov 2012 #72
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #83
BarackTheVote Nov 2012 #56
Livluvgrow Nov 2012 #59
bluestate10 Nov 2012 #66
Initech Nov 2012 #69
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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:04 PM

1. Bread and circuses, not so heavy on the bread.

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:07 PM

2. Movies were popular through the Depression

People want to get away from the here and now for a little while and will pay to do it.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:52 PM

67. Both Hollywood and radio 'came of age' during the Great Depression

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:10 PM

3. Oh good, a Blame-The-Working-Class thread

We haven't had one of these in a couple of days

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:11 PM

4. +1

 

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:14 PM

6. That's the OP's stock and trade.

Trillions stolen by the 1% and this clown is dissing the 99% doing anything other than living in squalor and misery, all of the time.

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:17 PM

20. If it's not the Working Class it's families... n/t

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:57 PM

28. +2

Wonder if he gets bennies for this.

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 05:13 PM

34. For reals

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:12 PM

5. whatever, you are concerned over the strangest things

 

As usual.

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:52 PM

7. All those "professionally-disappointed Obama voters" have to spend that cash somehow ...

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Response to zbdent (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:56 PM

11. Cash is best not spent. That's any time, but certianly during an economic downturn.

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Response to RB TexLa (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:56 PM

22. They can't put it into banks ...

then they'd be exposed ...

why do you think a lot of these "unemployed" or "underemployed" numbers take cash instead of something traceable?

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Response to RB TexLa (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 06:48 PM

38. yeah, well i came into the thread thinking

i'd see spent on military waste, spent on corporate subsidies (or fed. money while corporations are hiring overseas) or some other thing other than people spending it on the movies.

it's a treat we give to our grandchildren or we go with friends. we go to the afternoon cinema and we get the senior discount. but, i know we should all suffer, stay at home and allow the theaters to go out of business.

and while we're at it. we might as well go the "FULL AUSTERITY MONTY" and only spend our money on food and survival. then, eventually all of those businesses and employees will go under with the rest of us.

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Response to RB TexLa (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 01:49 PM

44. my late father, an economist, had a different view.

Spending money in a downturn can be thought of as having a stimulative effect.

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Response to salin (Reply #44)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:51 PM

48. Of course it does. I'm talking about individuals not saving their money


I look at it as I deserve to have an keep my money. I spend it on something like that it can no longer be used to make me more money.

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Response to RB TexLa (Reply #48)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:08 PM

51. Ah, a 1% type.

Great way to keep the economy in a shambles. That's one of the most idiotic statements I've seen here, and I've seen some dillies.

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Response to PDJane (Reply #51)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:13 PM

54. Stick around.

RB TexLa is bound to surprise you with more.

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Response to PDJane (Reply #51)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:20 PM

57. It's "idiotic" for someone to think they deserve to keep their money?


Then, please tell me why others in the economy deserve to have my money and you think I do not deserve?

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Response to RB TexLa (Reply #57)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:27 PM

58. Start with the fact that money has no intrinsic value.

It's only value is in being a fungible resource to assist in keeping oneself fed and clothed, to promote a decent standard of living, and to keep the economy going by being passed around.

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Response to PDJane (Reply #58)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:33 PM

61. No thank you on passing my money around to others. I pass it to others when I am going to


get it back with a return.

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Response to RB TexLa (Reply #48)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 10:43 PM

71. he was talking about individuals.

My father was a saver. New cars were not bought often. College saving for his kids, and retirement planning trumped frivolous spending. But in a down turn, if he was near when he had already planned on buying a new car (say it was year 8 instead of year 10), he bought the new car in year 8 - for the stimulus effect.

This message was so strong that his grandson, who was only 8 when he passed, called my after one of his MBA classes and asked if Dad (his grandfather) was a Keynsian economist. Why, yes, he was. Indeed he earned his PhD from Harvard and Kenneth Galbraith (father of James Galbraith) sat on his committee... why do you ask? He remembered the example and explanation of buying a new car in the Bush I economic downturn.

It can all be about "me", and if one has a little extra income in such times, there can be intentional, individual stimulus spending. Not that folks going to a movie are likely thinking about this, but I (who am a saver, like my father), also appreciate the collective stimulative effect of such spending, and am not going to judge so harshly.

Of course, "it's all about me" is a fairly popular sentiment in our society. Some might wonder if this sentiment might reflect the greed within some sectors that has led to our long economic retraction.

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Response to salin (Reply #71)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 11:06 PM

75. Excellent posts. +1 nt

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Response to laundry_queen (Reply #75)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 12:06 AM

80. thank you, laundry_queen

sometimes one feels like one is just writing to the wind - in such a large forum. It is nice to get such a response, that someone is reading, thinking and appreciating. I appreciate the feedback.

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Response to RB TexLa (Reply #48)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 11:26 PM

77. And it's your right and privilege to save or invest your money

I know what you're talking about, this last month, my lady and I cut the cable. A one-time expense for a really good antenna, on a really good sale, and I get free TV, in hi-def, no less (won the TV at my union dinner). But others who wish to spend on cable, including premium channels, can do whatever they want with what money they earn.

Hey, right now, I'm drinking some damned good beer that is way better than Bud-Miller-Coors. Even though I got it on sale, with a special shipping promotion, and a ten dollar off coupon to boot, it still costs way more than mass produced swill. I'm happy, some Oregon brewer is happy, and the driver who brought it to my door is happy. What's not to like about people spending their money in ways that bring some relief to the dreariness of life?

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Response to RB TexLa (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:32 PM

60. Why live life if you don't spend on things that make you happy? I am afraid you have things mixed.

Spend wisely, but spend.

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:13 PM

8. I wait for them to hit RedBox.

 

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:14 PM

9. i don't go to movies with you

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Response to dionysus (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:09 PM

18. !

Beat me to it.

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Response to dionysus (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:05 PM

50. I'm guessing the OP is probably the world's cheapest cheap date.

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Response to Initech (Reply #50)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:35 PM

62. Is that the guy that brags about cheap homemade pizzas when other people are talking about

stopping the Papa John's majority owner from being an asshole and getting health insurance for PJ employees? Some people just have the fucking priorities mixed up.

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Response to bluestate10 (Reply #62)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 05:24 PM

70. Ha ha I hear that. To quote Jerry Seinfeld: "Cheapness is not a sense."

Yesh you probably spend at least $10 more making a pizza at home than you would ordering it.

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Response to dionysus (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:11 PM

53. Perfect! n/t

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:17 PM

10. So you are arguing for Higher unemployment?

What benefit do you think would follow from people not going to those movies?

Do you think layoffs come from people "throwing away" money on things you don't approve of?

They don't. Layoffs more typically come from perople NOT throwing millions in the garbage.

Or is your theory that jobs in the movie industry don't count?

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:59 PM

12. What an incredibly stupid thread.

What is the connection to reality here?

You want more recession, more layoffs, more uncertainty? Have everyone abandon the move industry.

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Response to tritsofme (Reply #12)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:03 PM

14. So they deserve to have those millions? Not the people who's money it was before?

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Response to RB TexLa (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:14 PM

19. People can spend their money how they choose.

If they want a movie night, it's none of our business. How is this complicated?

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Response to RB TexLa (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:39 PM

24. maybe you should save some money by getting rid of your internet connection.

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Response to dionysus (Reply #24)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 05:11 PM

33. I hate to think of his ISP getting his money undeservedly






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Response to RB TexLa (Reply #14)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:38 PM

63. The movie houses hire people. The movie houses buy movies that are made by working

people. WTF?

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:01 PM

13. Popcorn anyone?



Brought a large bowl to share

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #13)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:30 PM

23. I prefer Sno Caps. Interesting, DUers seem to be...

rejecting the latest installment of The RB TexLa Show.

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Response to WorseBeforeBetter (Reply #23)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 05:01 PM

31. Here, have some sno caps



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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #31)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 05:09 PM

32. Here, have some Flicks






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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #32)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 06:18 PM

36. Well thank you

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #31)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 05:18 PM

35. Mmm... thanks!

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:03 PM

15. You prefer people walking around in sackcloth and ashes?

Its entertainment and an escape. Why begrudge people that?

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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #15)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 11:08 PM

76. It's all or nothing for some

reminds me of those people who say you can't be an environmentalist if you don't live in a mud hut with a composting toilet and wildcrafted weeds for supper. Typical black and white thinking.

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Response to laundry_queen (Reply #76)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 07:07 PM

85. Heh. Yeah - I see that.

Someone on here once asked what everyone drives. I have AWD because of snow (Northeast). Found out that I am not a "true liberal" unless I sell it and walk several miles to work in the snow and ice.

Takes all kinds, I guess! From both sides (as this is OP is the exact opposite example, IMO)

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:05 PM

16. True enough, I wish it employed more people

For the costs of these things - some people make huge money on it. If it employed more people, it would be OK.

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Response to treestar (Reply #16)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:29 PM

21. What's the magic number for you?

California

The motion picture and television industry is responsible for 191,146 direct jobs and $17.0 billion in wages in California, including both production and distribution-related jobs. Over 129,000 of the jobs are production-related.

Louisiana

The motion picture and television industry is responsible for 8,655 direct jobs and $377.9 million in wages in Louisiana, including both production and distribution-related jobs. Over 3,400 of the jobs are production-related.

Michigan

The motion picture and television industry is responsible for 14,285 direct jobs and $485.3 million in wages in Michigan, including both production and distribution-related jobs. Nearly 4,700 of the jobs are production-related.

North Carolina

The motion picture and television industry is responsible for 8,481 direct jobs and $206.7 million in wages in North Carolina, including both production and distribution-related jobs. Over 3,000 of the jobs are production-related.

http://www.mpaa.org/policy/state-by-state

And don't say it's chump change, because it's not.

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Response to WorseBeforeBetter (Reply #21)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 12:19 PM

43. I've no doubt it employs a lot of people

But proportionately it doesn't seem to. Entertainment is a big export for America - so it would be neat if it spread wider. But then maybe I need to count movie theater owners, people who work at Amazon.com or netflix, you name it. Maybe it does employ a good number of people.

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Response to WorseBeforeBetter (Reply #21)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:29 AM

84. Awww! I was going to say that!! NC is wooing Hollywood like crazy

and a lot of people are earning who've been out of work for a while.

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:08 PM

17. Thank you for this thread! Because it's a fun opportunity for you

to learn about the history of the American movie industry. Historically, movies have been used as diversions for the middle class...think of the Depression, and the Golden Age of Hollywood. Many of our major stars....Cary Grant, Gene Kelly...the list is endless...entertained Americans during the depression, and then throughout the war-

Many people got some idea of what the war looked like from professionally filmed newsreels shown between or before films; many of these people only had radios-

So, yes...we DO need to spend money on entertainment...oftentimes for many people, it's a welcome relief from the fear of job loss, illness, etc...that they can't afford to get on the shrinks couch, or pricey vacation.

I hope that answers your question.

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:52 PM

25. Which compares greatly to the multi-billion dollar clown show

we were all FORCED to sit through for 6 fucking months.


Yeah, movies are destroying America Especially all those union jobs, the hundreds of people who are employed making the film, the marketing firms, theater owners and workers... Yeah.. Piss Off..

Posted this as I am about to go see Skyfall...

Oh and Wreck-It Ralph was great for both kids and adults.

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:53 PM

26. It used to be cigarettes. nt

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:54 PM

27. RB TexLa - The One Man Facepalm.

Hoarding every dollar isn't exactly going to work wonders in helping the economy progress.

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Response to HughBeaumont (Reply #27)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 05:01 PM

30. HIDE THE MONEY IN THE MATTRESSES!

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:58 PM

29. Agreed. Don't people know they should sit in their homes and wallow at their lot in life?

I am so tired of Americans thinking they should enjoy things. Hello! They call it a depression for a reason ... you're supposed to be depressed!

Nothing grates my nerves more than people who're struggling who have the audacity to actually do something fun. You're struggling! Is it too much to ask that you just stay home absolutely devoid of happiness? C'mon, people!

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 06:21 PM

37. Oh jaysus fucking christ!

Do you have ONE just ONE molecule of FUN in your whole body?

I'd really hate to be you. So grumpy all of the time. Ugh.

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 11:36 AM

39. you forgot the sarcasm icon, yes?

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 11:43 AM

40. I second what everybody on this thread said

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 11:53 AM

41. And going to restaurants!! And buying stuff they don't "need"

 

We should all just sit home and only buy the absolute essentials.

That will really the economy.

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 12:07 PM

42. What are people supposed to spend their money on? n/t

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 01:55 PM

45. folks need entertainment, even more in tough times...money well spent

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:25 PM

46. So what? We should not go out and have fun?

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:45 PM

47. 135m div by 311,591,917 = 43 cents per American

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:58 PM

49. I went to see Wreck-It Ralph last weekend.

And loved every moment of it. My 7 and 8 year old daughters laughed, we had some good popcorn and my husband and I had a good time too.
You can't dictate to people how they spend their money. Some people buy stamps, dolls, video games, clothes, jewelery, etc. with their money. Is it a waste? Ask them. I have a collection of dolls and I am not giving them back. I am sure there are people that get rich selling stuff all the time to people who want to buy it. But it is our choice to buy it. And I like going to the movies with my kids on the weekend. A good kids movie is not always easy to come by. And plenty of people are employed to make the movie (not just the actors that provide voices) and at the theaters that show the movies.

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Response to Jennicut (Reply #49)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:10 PM

52. Yeah really. I saw Skyfall last weekend. Best Bond since Goldfinger.

I definitely plan on seeing Wreck It Ralph at some point as well. So what if movies make a lot of money? People enjoy them. I guess the OP is also against going out to eat or going to concerts or sporting events, buying a car, and so on.

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Response to Initech (Reply #52)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:45 PM

64. I won't stop taking my girls to the movies.

Fun police.....

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Response to Jennicut (Reply #64)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:47 PM

65. Don't stop. Your girls will thank you when they are women. I don't get the OP. nt

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:19 PM

55. You can't be serious

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #55)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 10:48 PM

72. One even wonders what his point is on this site?

That is a mild OP, you should see some of his 'better' material.

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Response to Rex (Reply #72)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:16 AM

83. No thanks!

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:20 PM

56. ::flip off::

The movie industry employs a hell of a lot of artisans who are actually doing jobs they love and making a good living off of it thanks to the unions. I dare say Hollywood employs more artists than any other industry, anywhere else in the world, at any point in history. Besides, good, that movies are making a lot of f*cking money, because they cost a lot of money! Motion pictures are the art form of the new millennium, so F*CKING SUPPORT THE ARTS!

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:29 PM

59. You know

the economy is certainly bad for alot of folks, but it is certainly good for alot of others. It isn't all doom and gloom and I get sick of people only focusing on that. The 20-30 bucks we may spend at a movie isnt going to make one bit of difference in the future of our lives, but the enjoyment we get by going to a movie or a concert will for sure make us happier.

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Response to Livluvgrow (Reply #59)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:50 PM

66. Welcome to DU. You're dead right. nt

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Response to Livluvgrow (Reply #59)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 05:17 PM

69. Exactly. You only live once. Enjoy life while you're here and don't pay attention to doom & gloom.

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:13 PM

68. Entertainment should be banned. For the good of the country, of course.

No movie theatres.
No television.

Ban them.

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Response to NYC Liberal (Reply #68)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 10:48 PM

73. Can you believe this shit passes the smell test?

I wonder what working class group he will crap on next!?!?!

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Response to NYC Liberal (Reply #78)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:26 AM

81. Thank you.

Yep. That's it right there.

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 11:02 PM

74. But if we're going to start monitoring the movie theaters

then who's going to be monitoring the stores for food stamps being used on potato chips? Or welfare money being spent on cigarettes? Or checking apartments for luxurious refrigerators?

We're already spread so thin as it is, and there's only so much shaming we can all do in a day. I'd suggest you get with HR and work out a schedule we can all live with.

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 11:50 PM

79. priorities

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:40 AM

82. Don't you mean "...AT the garbage IN movie theatres..?"

 

people always need an escape.

moreso when things aren't going well.

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