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Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:28 AM

I'll bet you a case of MoonPies

that somehow Hostess emerges from this financial mess with the brand intact & Twinkies and HoHos
run wild again.(This sounds like treat walking on the wrong side.Call the Vice Squad!)

I have no idea what the steps will be, but they ain't dyin. They have just cleared out any inventory and created demand. People want Hostess products now that probably haven't eaten in years.

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Reply I'll bet you a case of MoonPies (Original post)
Are_grits_groceries Nov 2012 OP
Cirque du So-What Nov 2012 #1
GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #14
Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #2
JVS Nov 2012 #3
GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #16
Liberal_in_LA Nov 2012 #4
Are_grits_groceries Nov 2012 #6
Spike89 Nov 2012 #32
Brother Buzz Nov 2012 #5
Are_grits_groceries Nov 2012 #7
Brother Buzz Nov 2012 #9
hootinholler Nov 2012 #12
GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #17
hootinholler Nov 2012 #19
JVS Nov 2012 #25
Warpy Nov 2012 #8
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #11
Warpy Nov 2012 #21
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #22
Panasonic Nov 2012 #24
librechik Nov 2012 #30
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #33
GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #18
Fumesucker Nov 2012 #10
Buns_of_Fire Nov 2012 #13
99Forever Nov 2012 #15
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #20
jackbenimble Nov 2012 #23
liberal N proud Nov 2012 #26
ashling Nov 2012 #27
jmowreader Nov 2012 #28
Brother Buzz Nov 2012 #29
Bucky Nov 2012 #31

Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:30 AM

1. Looks like the maker of PBR and Bumble Bee Tuna is interested

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014308328

especially since they will be unencumbered by that pesky union

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Response to Cirque du So-What (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:31 AM

14. They'll probably be able to jack up the price now, too.

Now that everyone is all hysterical over the supposed "demise" of Twinkies, they'll be able to sell the brand name for even more now.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:32 AM

2. At the least, they'll sell the recipes for a pretty penny, and someone else will

make them. IF there's a big enuf market. I mean, Hostess wasn't making enough profit, making those goodies.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:38 AM

3. It'll be something like Nabisco Twinkies and Ho-Hos.

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Response to JVS (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:41 AM

16. Nah. It'll still be "Hostess".

The brand name will be part of the deal. Whatever conglomerate buys them will probably keep the name "Hostess", just like Kraft did when they bought out the National Biscuit Company, the original owners of the "Nabisco" brand, as well as Oscar Mayer, Maxwell House, Planters... And, just like Unilever did when they bought out Ben and Jerry's.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:38 AM

4. are moon pies the chocolate covered cookie marshmallow things?

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:56 AM

6. That's a blasphemous definition

of food from the gawds, but it's close enough.

History of MoonPies:
http://www.moonpie.com/about

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 05:20 PM

32. Just found and tried banana moon pie coffee

Was at Big Lots with the wife and she knows I have a weakness for the fake banana goodness that only moon pies have. She saw "banana moon pie coffee" and decided I had to have it. I love coffee, and I love the occasional moon pie, but I've never liked any flavored coffee before (adding flavor after brewing is different).

Anyway, I was amazed! It is very drinkable, has a real moon pie "essence". It is kind of like drinking a decent cup of coffee just after eating a banana pie. Pretty sure that because it was in Big Lots, it bombed on the market, but at least I got to try it.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:45 AM

5. A case of 16 oz. RC Cola bottles says Bimbo Bakeries ends up with it

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:09 AM

7. The Souths Fascination with RC Colas and Moonpies

The Souths Fascination with RC Colas and Moonpies
History of the MoonPie and its association with RC Cola

The MoonPie hit the markets of Chattanooga Tennessee in 1917 and R.C. Cola arrived in 1934. They were an instant success when they combined forces in the 1950's. You could buy a RC (Royal Crown) Cola and MoonPie special for 10 cents, back then, that was a full 16 ounces of soda and the MoonPies' weighed about near (that's southern for Approximate size) a half pound.

This combo was soon labeled as the instant fast food lunch of the fifties. Although it's never been acknowledged that the merging of the two was a planned marketing strategy or just plain luck.

This combination has inspired many to write, read and celebrate in its existence. Songs such as the 1950s hit "Gimm'e an RC Cola and a Moonpie" from Big Bill Liston in the 1950's to today's version from NRBQ called "RC and Moonpie" and "Moonpie" by Edwin Hubbard As well as the popular children's musical version by Bill Harley called "Weezie and the Moon Pies". Along with several books "The Great American Moon Pie Handbook" by Ron Dickson in 1985 and the somewhat new children's book "Jimmy Zangwow's Out-of-This-World Moon Pie Adventure" written by Tony DiTerlizzi and released in 2000.
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http://nashville.about.com/cs/historynsites/a/rcnmoonpie.htm

For many years, the President of my alma mater was R.C. Edwards. Of course his wife was nicknamed MoonPie, and she took it in stride. When he passed, students and others lined the route of the funeral cortege and held up RC Colas and MoonPies when he went by.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:05 AM

9. A couple of Pasadena boys had a different take on gourmet eating

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:27 AM

12. I can understand R.C. and Moonpies but

Boiled Peanuts give me the willies.

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #12)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:45 AM

17. They did that to me at first.

Then I tried them, reluctantly. I have no regrets. Boiled peanuts are no different than any other cooked legume, like edamame or lima beans. I like 'em.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #17)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:59 AM

19. Funny, I tried them thinking how different...

It was while chewing them I got the willies. I can't touch them now. I have friends who love to put them in a coke.

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:19 PM

25. They're the ones who supply the bread outlet in my area.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:15 AM

8. Grupo Bimbo (not making this up) in Mexico

has tried to buy them before now. They're likely to consider it again. They own Sara Lee and Entemann's, so buying up Hostess would get them into the lowest end of the baked snack market.

Twinkies might be made in Mexico in the future, but they'll definitely be back.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:19 AM

11. Bimbo makes their us based products

In the states, near distribution markets. It has all to do with the very narrow profit per unit.

By the way bimbo bread did something hostess never did. They started life by imitating American white bread. I ate it when growing up. When the "healthier bread craze" came, they rolled bran breads within three months, as well as other healthier offerings.

The plant here in San Diego is near the port and Petco park, and employs people from the community.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 06:21 PM

21. Good, that's also the Heinz model

Keeping factories nearer the point of consumption makes a great deal of sense. Shipping costs and the risk of international threats to trade routes are never a problem.

Then again, maybe they're not trying to get rich quick off slave labor.

I knew about Bimbo bread from cousins in California.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #21)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 06:27 PM

22. That is the first American market they penetrated

for some odd reason we have a large emigre community. They started at seven eleven, offering Mexican style sweet breads that have been in the Mexican market for decades, like Conchas and Canelitas.

If it wasn't for the diabetes and gluten allergy... I grew up eating Canelitas, cinnamon cookies. Those things are good. GAMESA, the other big company makes Mamuts, which are very similar to moon pies. They are also for sale at my local Ralphs.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 06:40 PM

24. That's right.

 

There is such bakery near where I live. Haven't visited their outlet in years though.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #11)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 05:05 PM

30. My husband works for Bimbo in Denver--they make Entenmann's, among other things

Entenmanns has several varieties of really healthy breads and so on, along with high end pastries. Bimbo is the biggest bakery in the world, they go everywhere, and they don't object to unions. The local factories are a godsend for many communities.

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Response to librechik (Reply #30)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 05:24 PM

33. Why I am hopping they buy it

They are a union shop.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:55 AM

18. I had no idea they owned all those brands.

And, a whole bunch of other big names, as well. If somebody buys Hostess, I hope it's this group, or one like them. At least their primary business is bakery products, and not computers.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:14 AM

10. ...

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:31 AM

13. Twinkies will not die!

Neither will Ding-Dongs. What else is there to put taco sauce on?

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:31 AM

15. It ain't about clearing inventory...

.. it's about clearing out their obligation to pay the retirement of the people who worked for them for many years.

As always with the 1%, it's about STEALING from the rest of us.

Guillotine time.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:02 PM

20. You know, this is about union busting

this is the name of the game.

I HOPE that since BIMBO runs union shops in Mexico, they allow the Union to continue and live to their obligations. That is a very likely candidate since they have tried to buy them before.

But serious, this is union busting, and IMHO, since this is the name of the game, I hope the judge realizes it as well.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 06:33 PM

23. Same thought here.

I'm thinking they will liquidate the bakery assets but keep the brand then just outsource the actual baking, maybe to whomever buys the bakeries. Then they will have effectively broken the union, and gone on BAU. I wonder if they will/could create some sort of puppet corporation to purchase the bakeries.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:24 PM

26. It happened with the meat industry in the80's

One by one, meat packing houses closed. It killed unions, the plants all reopened months later with cheap labor.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:32 PM

27. Two words:

New Coke

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:38 PM

28. Is it okay if I DON'T take the MoonPies?

MoonPies are a bit like Vegemite, I think; the only way you can possibly stand to eat one is to have eaten them since birth.

I also think you're right: Hostess will reemerge, probably under new ownership. Whoever buys Hostess, which has valuable brand equity and products people like (regardless of what the gourmets on DU say, lots of people think Twinkies taste good), will make money with it so long as they're not paying fifty vice-presidents, paying vulture capitalist fees, etc., and if they return the products to their former glory. You can only take so much fruit filling out of a fruit pie before people start to notice, and they have.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 05:02 PM

29. Looks like I may own you a case of 16 oz. RC Cola bottles

Hostess, unions agree to mediation
November 19, 2012

Hostess Brands Inc. agreed in court on Monday to enter private mediation with its lenders and leaders of a striking union to try to avert the liquidation of the maker of Twinkies snack cakes and Wonder Bread.

Hostess, its lenders and the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union (BCTGM), agreed to mediation at the urging of Bankruptcy Judge Robert Drain of the Southern District of New York, who preferred it to the more expensive, public hearing regarding the company's liquidation.

"My desire to do this is prompted primarily by the potential loss of over 18,000 jobs as well as my belief that there is a possibility to resolve this matter," Drain said.

The 82-year-old Hostess is seeking permission to liquidate its business, claiming that its operations had been crippled by a bakers strike and that winding down operations is the best way to preserve its dwindling cash

<more>

http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-73380044/

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 05:15 PM

31. I hope you're right, for then the Republic is saved.

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