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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:33 PM Nov 2012

One More REASON Petraeus Might Have Resigned





Marc Ambinder of the The Week reports on an intriguing and little-known factor that may have contributed to David Petraeus' quick decision to resign: It seems Petraeus was on the list of people who would have access to the nation's nuclear codes should the rest of Washington be wiped out in an attack. And the people on that list are held to ultra-high standards under something called the Personnel Reliability Program. "Adultery is not a minor sin under the PRP rules," writes Ambinder.

It's all part of the nation's secret Continuity of Government plans in the wake of a catastrophe. Petraeus' "exalted" role in those plans might well have led national intelligence chief James Clapper to insist he step down as quickly as he did, writes Ambinder. Read the full post here.

http://www.newser.com/story/157741/one-more-reason-petraeus-might-have-resigned.html



When he admitted having an extramarital affair with Paula Broadwell, CIA Director David Petraeus, as a senior civilian in the presidential chain of command should something go catastrophically wrong in Washington, violated special behavior codes for officials who might one day be forced to execute nuclear strikes. In classified presidential emergency action documents, the CIA director is among the dozens, if not hundreds, of officials who are listed as National Command Authority successors in the event that higher-ranking officials are no longer able to do their jobs.


Because under certain circumstances he'd have ready access to the nuclear satchel, Petraeus was indoctrinated into the Personnel Reliability Program, which evaluates and monitors the lifestyle and behavior of Americans with access to nuclear command and control mechanisms. Adultery is not a minor sin under the PRP rules.


The details of so-called "nuclear pre-delegation" is one of the most tightly held secrets in the U.S. government. The first 18 presidential successors are spelled out by law. But it is not clear whether the pre-delegation lists follow the Constitutional chain of command.





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http://theweek.com/article/index/236521/one-secret-reason-petraeus-had-to-resign
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One More REASON Petraeus Might Have Resigned (Original Post) Segami Nov 2012 OP
This is one I totally believe. LiberalArkie Nov 2012 #1
Yep I could believe that also. My goodness how careless can a person be. My southernyankeebelle Nov 2012 #3
Petreaus left himself wide open to blackmail by either a third party with knowledge Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #2
No doubt, the security trust has been breached by Petraeus. Segami Nov 2012 #5
Fail Little, Fail Big. Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #7
I heard that everywhere Petraeous went (his home for example) was considered a command center. Liberal_in_LA Nov 2012 #4
Then why would the FBI sit on this for 4 months? BlueStreak Nov 2012 #6
I was in this program when I was in the Navy over 30 years ago smaug Nov 2012 #8
Adultery was a component of PRP, as was gambling (more common a problem overseas MADem Nov 2012 #12
and tailgate rolls on... roguevalley Nov 2012 #17
TailHOOK....wow, that was a few years ago! MADem Nov 2012 #20
Plan "R"? AndyTiedye Nov 2012 #9
Damnit, I just finally memorized those *)#%ing Nuclear Codes LynneSin Nov 2012 #10
They just added "2" to the end of the old password ThoughtCriminal Nov 2012 #11
Oh so it's password2 now LynneSin Nov 2012 #13
Tell me again. I wrote it on my hands, then washed. Seriously, I cant believe that people rhett o rick Nov 2012 #14
posted first by Ichingcarpenter Ichingcarpenter Nov 2012 #15
What a dimwit flamingdem Nov 2012 #16
Fine, I understand that adultery isn't new. Neither are lying, cheating, or stealing. Sarah Ibarruri Nov 2012 #18
POE Generic Other Nov 2012 #19
 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
3. Yep I could believe that also. My goodness how careless can a person be. My
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:44 PM
Nov 2012

mother use to say one hair of a woman's VJJ she can get a man to do anything. I use to think that was bull. Now I wonder if she wasn't right.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
2. Petreaus left himself wide open to blackmail by either a third party with knowledge
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:41 PM
Nov 2012

of the affair, or from Broadwell herself.

My bet it woukld have been Broadwell; she seems a little less than a stable personality, and a serious user of other people for her own ends.

Either way, he is unfit for command.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
5. No doubt, the security trust has been breached by Petraeus.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:48 PM
Nov 2012

Its pretty sad for someone in his sensitive position commanding the highest discipline and experience would surrender it all for a little poke in the hay.

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
4. I heard that everywhere Petraeous went (his home for example) was considered a command center.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:46 PM
Nov 2012

Another reason not be be involved in scandal/affairs.

smaug

(230 posts)
8. I was in this program when I was in the Navy over 30 years ago
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 03:20 PM
Nov 2012

I never heard anything like this. Their (PRP) main concern was that we weren't communist, homosexual or pot smokers. We had a few things we'd go over every few months, but it was relatively relaxed (not casual).

What this might entail is the potential for blackmail. At the time (I'm gettin' old now, kiddos, so bear with the old fart), being blackmailed for homosexual activity by a communist was their big bugaboo. I think pot smokin' was 2nd on the list. If sexytime out of wedlock had been mentioned, i don't remember this. However, we were known as the 'Hey, man' Navy being away from all that DC and Atlantic coast 'rigor.'

MADem

(135,425 posts)
12. Adultery was a component of PRP, as was gambling (more common a problem overseas
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 04:21 PM
Nov 2012

where there were slot machines in the clubs; or anyone near Vegas or Reno--pre-internet, of course). PRP also concerned itself with excessive drinkers who managed to bring themselves to the attention of authorities, either shore patrol, MPs or local police.

Sex and the single Sailor (or officer) wasn't a problem, but if a military spouse started complaining about a PRP person's conduct vis a vis extramarital adventures, it could cause repercussions that could impact that clearance. While they may not have gone looking for trouble, if trouble came to their attention, they didn't ignore it.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
20. TailHOOK....wow, that was a few years ago!
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:35 PM
Nov 2012

Haven't thought about that in eons. I had a friend who got caught up in that mess. SHE (yes, she) wasn't involved in any of the shenanigans, but she was "present" at the conference, though miles away when the transgressions occurred. Equal opportunity blaming.

It ruined her career--guilt by association.

AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
9. Plan "R"?
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 03:47 PM
Nov 2012

That's what they called it in the movie "Dr. Strangelove", but we all knew there had to be such a thing for real.

I hope they changed all the passwords.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
10. Damnit, I just finally memorized those *)#%ing Nuclear Codes
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 03:48 PM
Nov 2012

Does that mean they're changes again???!!!

Why don't people remember us lil people when shit like this happens!

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
14. Tell me again. I wrote it on my hands, then washed. Seriously, I cant believe that people
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 06:19 PM
Nov 2012

with as high of clearance as Gen P arent closely keep under surveillance.

I believe that all federal employees that have high clearances will be fired if the have excessive gambling debts, affairs, person debts, drinking problems, or any other problem that makes them vulnerable.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
16. What a dimwit
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 07:14 PM
Nov 2012

I did hear he had some good ideas about how to reform the military, but I guess these were already in implementation stage

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
18. Fine, I understand that adultery isn't new. Neither are lying, cheating, or stealing.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:06 AM
Nov 2012

However, all these acts speak less than favorably about someone. Those in public life shock me, because of all, these can afford less than others to engage in these acts. I feel zero sympathy for Petraeus.

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