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Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:17 AM

WH Petition: To Allow Certain States Wishing to Withdraw from the Union to do so immediately



Sign here: http://wh.gov/XbGM

Just got this in an e-mail. Please sign.

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See below -- I have a petition in response to all of those right-wing nut jobs who have apparently been petitioning the White House in just this same manner to allow their states to secede from the union as a result of the 2012 election. Attached is a form sent to me by the White House which allows you to sign MY petition which would conditionally allow this. Please sign up!! 150 signatures are necessary for the petition to become publicly viewable on the White House site! Send to your like-minded friends!


You have to read the forwarded message to the end to see what I have proposed.


The gist is, okay, secede, so long as it is by majority vote under the Voting Rights Act of 1965 (which assures no racial discrimination) and if they pay back the HUGE excess of federal money transferred to those states by the US Government since 1864.

Thank you for creating a petition on We the People!


You now have 30 days to get 25,000 signatures in order for your petition

to be reviewed by the White House. Until your petition has 150 signatures,

it will only be available from the following URL and will not be publicly

viewable on the Open Petitions section of We the People:


http://wh.gov/XbGM


Here are a few tips to help you promote your petition and get to 25,000

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I just started a petition on the White House petitions site, We the

People. Will you sign it? http://wh.gov/XbGM


3. Twitter: Tweet about your petition. Here’s a sample

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I just started a petition on the White House Petitions site, We the

People. Will you sign it? http://wh.gov/XbGM


Dear friends,


I wanted to let you know about a new petition I created on We the People,

a new feature on WhiteHouse.gov, and ask for your support. Will you add your

name to mine? If this petition gets 25,000 signatures by December 15, 2012,

the White House will review it and respond!


We the People allows anyone to create and sign petitions asking the Obama

Administration to take action on a range of issues. If a petition gets

enough support, the Obama Administration will issue an official response.


You can view and sign the petition here:


http://wh.gov/XbGM


Here's some more information about this petition:


To Allow Certain States Wishing to Withdraw from the Union to do

so immediately.


We hereby demand that the administration introduce and Congress adopt laws

and constitutional amendments necessary to allow any State that was in

rebellion against the United States as of January 1, 1864 to secede from the

United States upon the following conditions:



(1) Such state shall, by a majority vote of its citizens held in accordance

with the provisions of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, elect to secede from

the United States; and



(2) Such state shall, as a provision of such vote, obligate itself to refund

to the Treasury of the United States, all payments of any kind made to said

State by the United States which are in excess of the federal taxes collected

from such State for the period from 1864 until the date of such vote.



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Reply WH Petition: To Allow Certain States Wishing to Withdraw from the Union to do so immediately (Original post)
Omaha Steve Nov 2012 OP
jberryhill Nov 2012 #1
Avalux Nov 2012 #2
Omaha Steve Nov 2012 #3
Avalux Nov 2012 #4
Scuba Nov 2012 #7
cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #5
Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #6
SDjack Nov 2012 #9
Omaha Steve Nov 2012 #11
former9thward Nov 2012 #8
quaker bill Nov 2012 #10
RomneyLies Nov 2012 #12

Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:20 AM

1. I love the idea of asking the president for "permission"


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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:22 AM

2. Question for everyone championing this -

what about those of us who live in these states?

I live in Texas and my home, my job, my family is here. Will there be a mechanism in place to relocate those of us who get 'trapped' if secession becomes a reality???

I'm serious about this. Consideration needs to be given to people like me.

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Response to Avalux (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:34 AM

3. I doubt they can raise the cash


Let alone get the votes to do so.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:43 AM

4. So do I, but when people propose this sort of thing, it needs to be thought through.

If this happened, millions of people would be displaced victims.

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Response to Avalux (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:50 PM

7. Recommend you invest in an extension ladder.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:54 AM

5. I wouldn't sign it if my fucking life depended on it.

Anyone who does makes the statement that they don't give a fuck about Dems/Liberals/Progressives in those states and are simply stirring shit for shit's sake.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:55 AM

6. So you want the DUers in red states to be thrown out of the USA?

Nice.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:59 PM

9. It's time for the crybabies to grow up. No State is getting a walk-away deal. But, I

would like to see a petition to require: 1) mooching States to repay the excess Fed money pumped into them since 1864, and 2) a "no mooching" Constitutional Amendment (no net positive money transfers from Fed to any State). These RW crybabies have no shame. Complaining about the Fed teats that they suck -- what a total lack of class.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:18 PM

11. Is there a State redder than Nebraska?


That is where I am. And there is a petition for Ne. to leave the union with 6,863 signed so far.


https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-nebraska-withdraw-united-states-and-create-its-own-new-government/Jf5xVXrS

Peacefully grant the State of Nebraska to withdraw from the United States and create its own NEW government

As the founding fathers of the United States of America made clear in the Declaration of Independence in 1776:

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."

"...Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government..."
Created: Nov 12, 2012

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:56 PM

8. This petition could not be more idiotic.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:18 PM

10. Not good enough

They also must take their share of the current federal account deficit and pay it off.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:24 PM

12. Do NOT sign if you have security clearance or are in rhe military

 

From what I've rad, supporting secession in any form is a violation of enlistment contracts and violates the terms of security clearances.

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