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Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:02 AM

KARL ROVE Under Attack By His Own Party, being thrown under the bus in a blame game.

Karl Rove was ambitious this past election. He spent hundreds of millions of dollars in an attempt to sway people into thinking Mitt Romney was going to win. He was so confident in his ability he even threw a tantrum on air. And now he is under attack by his own party, being thrown under the bus in a blame game. And now it turns out, Karl may have broken the law in his eagerness.



Think Progress has uncovered that Rove’s Crossroads Grassroots Policy Strategies (GPS) is, for lack of a better term, not-legal. Not saying that they’re illegal, but they failed to file the necessary legal paperwork to even exist in the first place.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/11/14/1188771/exclusive-karl-roves-crossroads-gps-never-filed-legally-required-registration/




Crossroads GPS was filed with the IRS as a 501(c)(4) “social welfare organization” located in Virginia. This kind of corporate structure is commonly called a dark money group due to its design to shield donors from any fallout associated with the donations. However, when you check with the state of Virginia, no such organization exists in their database.http://www.vdacs.virginia.gov/consumers/cgi-bin/char_search.cgi
Per the law in Virginia, any such organization which is to collect $1 million or more in donations must file the proper paperwork and fees before starting operation with the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services Office of Charitable and Regulatory Programs. Crossroads GPS did neither.




As a result, the shield which Crossroads GPS was to provide their donors may not apply at all. Failure by Karl Rove to cross his Ts and dot his Is might open him, and all of his donors, up to a legal nightmare scenario. He may have to return all of the money, and even then all the donors would become public knowledge, and he may be facing jail time for illegal solicitation of millions of dollars of donor money. People have gone to jail for far less severe a crime.




Karl Rove appears to have been so assured of victory that trivialities like legal paperwork appear to have not registered with him. Without a Romney presidency, Rove now may be facing an IRS auditor in his future, along with numerous complaints and other legal filings. The story of Karl Rove may make a good movie one day, discussing the hubris of greed and the failings of Objectivism.

For now, it is clear that Rove is finished.




http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/11/15/karl-rove-may-be-guilty-of-fraud/

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Reply KARL ROVE Under Attack By His Own Party, being thrown under the bus in a blame game. (Original post)
Segami Nov 2012 OP
hobbit709 Nov 2012 #1
ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #17
brush Nov 2012 #50
kenfrequed Nov 2012 #23
FailureToCommunicate Nov 2012 #26
RC Nov 2012 #68
teamster633 Nov 2012 #74
Champion Jack Nov 2012 #2
graham4anything Nov 2012 #3
WinkyDink Nov 2012 #7
Segami Nov 2012 #9
graham4anything Nov 2012 #11
Segami Nov 2012 #16
graham4anything Nov 2012 #18
Segami Nov 2012 #19
rhett o rick Nov 2012 #20
bongbong Nov 2012 #32
stubtoe Nov 2012 #57
AnneD Nov 2012 #45
malaise Nov 2012 #4
dchill Nov 2012 #5
rhett o rick Nov 2012 #21
bongbong Nov 2012 #33
dchill Nov 2012 #66
Berlum Nov 2012 #6
tanyev Nov 2012 #8
City Lights Nov 2012 #10
madokie Nov 2012 #12
Iggo Nov 2012 #13
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RainDog Nov 2012 #14
tblue37 Nov 2012 #15
ejbr Nov 2012 #22
tblue37 Nov 2012 #69
MyOpinion-2 Nov 2012 #24
Locrian Nov 2012 #25
aquart Nov 2012 #34
Segami Nov 2012 #41
cyberpj Nov 2012 #42
AnneD Nov 2012 #60
liberal N proud Nov 2012 #27
MynameisBlarney Nov 2012 #28
aintitfunny Nov 2012 #29
rock Nov 2012 #30
aquart Nov 2012 #31
ailsagirl Nov 2012 #35
Segami Nov 2012 #40
ailsagirl Nov 2012 #51
Segami Nov 2012 #55
ailsagirl Nov 2012 #64
randome Nov 2012 #47
ailsagirl Nov 2012 #53
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SCVDem Nov 2012 #38
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BlueManFan Nov 2012 #43
Segami Nov 2012 #44
ailsagirl Nov 2012 #49
HopeHoops Nov 2012 #46
We People Nov 2012 #63
catzies Nov 2012 #70
valerief Nov 2012 #48
allan01 Nov 2012 #52
LynneSin Nov 2012 #54
Segami Nov 2012 #59
LynneSin Nov 2012 #62
Auggie Nov 2012 #56
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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:05 AM

1. Couldn't happen to a nicer person.

the wheel of karmic justice grinds slowly but it grinds exceedingly fine.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:52 AM

17. Poetic Justice for Karl Rove and Citizens United!

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Response to ProudProgressiveNow (Reply #17)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:00 AM

50. You're right

Poetic justice. Yes. Karma also, which oft times isn't immediate but works in roundabout ways. It's just getting around to Rove after all the dirty dealings and damage he caused during the W Bush years. There are tons of instances of this happening to high-profile individuals. One recently that comes to mind is OJ Simpson. Some say he got away with killing his wife, but he's now serving a long sentence in jail for another, non-related matter. It's a bitch when it gets you in the end, huh, Karl?

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:37 AM

23. Hmm...

Would it be mixing the metaphor of the bus to suggest that they will have trouble running him over without damaging the bus, or will it actually extend the metaphor?

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Response to kenfrequed (Reply #23)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:49 AM

26. THAT was my first thought as well!

Karl...you look good. You been working out (in the prison gym)?

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Response to FailureToCommunicate (Reply #26)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:57 PM

68. I like this picture better.

 

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Response to RC (Reply #68)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:58 AM

74. Me, too.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:06 AM

2. Will we finally get to see the Karl Rove frog march?

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:08 AM

3. actually, Rove has opened the door for the family he works for to come back in 16

 

I would not applaud his demise yet, as everything he has done, he did for Jeb

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:13 AM

7. ITA. Jeb, and his Mexican (AKA: LATINO VOTE) wife. ALWAYS the LONG GAME.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:20 AM

9. You may be correct in pointing out Rove's family loyalties but..

Others see it differently.

2016 is four years away with many unforeseen changes popping up along the way.



Nov 15, 2012

CREW Files FEC Complaint Against Crossroads GPS For Failing To Disclose Donors



Washington, D.C. — Today, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) filed complaints with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) against Crossroads GPS for violating federal election law by failing to disclose the identities of contributors who — according to Karl Rove — donated $6 million specifically to fund independent expenditures in the Ohio Senate race. Additionally, Crossroads GPS also broke the law by soliciting donations to be spent on the Virginia, Montana, and Nevada Senate races, but failed to disclose the donors.


CREW Executive Director Melanie Sloan stated, “Karl Rove and Crossroads GPS didn’t just skirt around the edges of the law; this time it appears they jumped headlong into a criminal conspiracy.”


Federal law requires any outside group that makes an independent expenditure to disclose the donors who contributed to pay for such ads. Groups like Crossroads GPS normally evade this law by claiming none of their contributions were earmarked for a specific purpose. At an August 2012 fundraiser, however, Rove said an anonymous donor gave Crossroads GPS $3 million specifically for the Ohio Senate race, and told Rove it was a “matching challenge” dependent on the group raising another $3 million for the race. Crossroads GPS ended up spending $6.36 million on independent expenditures in the Ohio race, but did not disclose any donors in nine reports the group filed with the FEC.


- Crossroads GPS told the FEC in a 2011 letter it understood the law, and promised to identify all donors who made contributions for independent expenditures in specific races. Because the violations were deliberate, they are subject to criminal as well as civil penalties.


http://www.citizensforethics.org/legal-filings/entry/crew-files-fec-complaint-crossroads-gps-failing-to-disclose-donors

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Response to Segami (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:28 AM

11. the corporation will close it doors, and that will end the investigation. Rove will never be jailed.

 

If (ha ha ha) he is as bad as all that, don't you think he would buy one of the jurors and get out of jail free like JG did for many years?

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #11)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:48 AM

16. Well, thats so optimistic of you to think that...

...And I guess someone should tap CREW's Executive Director Melanie Sloan on the shoulder and tell her that she's wasting her time and effort by filing such nonsense against Rove since ultimately, he will buy his way out.

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Response to Segami (Reply #16)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:56 AM

18. It's why I would rather go forward then have investigations that won't work

 

Bush41 got out of Iran/Contra due to what most likely was intentionally setting a trap to later get Ollie off on the technicallity by the same ACLU that Bush41 always derided.

I am convinced (no proof of course) that they did it going in to have it end that way.

I would rather President Obama and his staff keep his eye on the betterment of America, and as we all know, Karl Rove is NOT part of that

(and btw, if there is a trial and Rove gets off on a technicality, it then makes him an even bigger hero to the right, same way Ollie and Liddy are.(though Liddy served his time.)

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:04 AM

19. Yea well, every once in a while the dragnet catches a few BIG fish.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:25 AM

20. Sorry, but to me it's that kind of thinking (ignore the crooks) that got us in this mess.

Most of GWBush "the special son" guys should have been in prison for past crimes.

Leave Karl alone and he will continue to conspire. Sure he is getting attention now, but it will blow over. There is always someone willing to pay him for his specialty. IMO his reaction on Faux indicated that the fix was in but someone blew it and it wasnt his fault.

If Ohio would have gone Rmoney, so would Flordia.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #11)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:14 AM

32. Buy one of the jurors?

 

That's waaaaaayyyyy too expensive for repigs, who would sell their children & mother for a penny.

Instead, they'll blackmail a juror(s), and if that doesn't work, murder one of the jurors' family members.

Seriously.

When you're dealing with millions of dollars, and billionaire donors, and the (possible) loss of trillions in juicy no-bid gov't contracts because Obama won, don't think they wouldn't do it in a microsecond.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #32)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:07 AM

57. People with that kind of money are scary.

They can eliminate almost anyone and never get caught.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:49 AM

45. Rust never sleeps.....

Rove has been around since Segretti in the Nixon Admin. He skirted the law then just as he and BFEE have always done. I will be pleasantly surprised if I see him face justice in my lifetime...and I mean justice that doesn't get a presidential pardon.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:09 AM

4. Oops! Grover is next!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:10 AM

5. Is this one of those things...

That's too good to be true? Seems like it.

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Response to dchill (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:28 AM

21. Yes. There will be a lot of whoopty-do now, but in the end he will skate

and be around to conspire again. Even though it looks like the oligarchs are mad at him, remember they only lost money and that's easy to replace. Karl is the best at what he does. The failure in Ohio, IMO, wasnt his fault. His reaction on FAux indicated to me that something went wrong. And most likely he did his part but someone didnt execute.

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Response to dchill (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:15 AM

33. Call it ...

 

... Fitzmas Pt. II.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #33)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:41 PM

66. Oh. Now that's kind of a Debbie Downer thing to say.

Not that it's wrong.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:13 AM

6. The true name should be Rove's DoubleCrossRoads (R)

Since as they have so often demonstrated,
truth distortion and double-crossing are core Republican 'values.'

Rove is just another slick embodiment of those
same degenerate hypocritical so-called 'values' that the
Republicans love to wrap themselves in
so smarmily & sanctimoniously.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:17 AM

8. I beg your pardon, but the GOP doesn't 'do' buses.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:24 AM

10. Haha. Well deserved!

I would love to see him go to prison!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:30 AM

12. Music I tells ya

Yes, this is music to my old ear

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:35 AM

13. Couldn't happen to a nicer pig.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #13)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:04 AM

75. +1000

I heartily agree.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:36 AM

14. k&r n/t

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:38 AM

15. Silly Rabbit--don't you know? IOKIYAR! nt

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #15)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:33 AM

22. +1 ...no +2....no, no...+10000 n/t

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Response to ejbr (Reply #22)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 04:57 PM

69. Rove and other such GOP operatives are like the undead. You can never count on their

staying down, no matter how many times they are "killed."

He is like Michael in Friday the 13th.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:43 AM

24. It sounds like Karl Rove will finally be getting his earned stripes - Jail

Sweet!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:49 AM

25. possible reason?


On November 12th, we received a letter from “The Protectors,” apparently a group of white hat cyber sleuths, mentioning our reward and stating that two months ago, they began monitoring the “digital traffic of one Karl Rove, a disrespecter of the Rule of Law, knowing that he claimed to be Kingmaker while grifting vast wealth from barons who gladly handed him gold to anoint another King while looking the other way.”

“The Protectors” said that they had identified the digital structure of Rove’s operation and of ORCA, a Republican get out the vote software application. After finding open “doors” in the systems, they created a “password protected firewall” called “The Great Oz,” and installed it on servers that Rove planned to use on election night to re-route and change election results “from three states.”

The letter indicated that “ORCA Killer” was launched at 10am EST and “The Great Oz” at 8pm EST on November 6th. “The Protectors” watched as ORCA crashed and failed throughout Election Day. They watched as Rove’s computer techs tried 105 times to penetrate “The Great Oz” using different means and passwords.

Finally, they issued the following warning to Mr. Rove: don’t do it again or they would turn over the evidence to Wikileaks founder Julian Assange.


http://occupyforaccountability.org/index.php?q=node%2F1075

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Response to Locrian (Reply #25)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:15 AM

34. Publish it anyway.

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Response to Locrian (Reply #25)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:38 AM

41. Thanks! Interesting post.


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Response to Locrian (Reply #25)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:40 AM

42. WOW. THIS SO DESERVES IT'S OWN THREAD!!

Please re-post as a Thread Topic like Anti-Rove hackers save the election or something like that to get attention.

This is GREAT!

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Response to Locrian (Reply #25)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:21 AM

60. That might be a reason why Rove has been so involved ...

in Assanges case in Sweden.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:50 AM

27. He deserves all the blame they can pass on to him

If he didn't do it, he has in the past and was involved this round.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:51 AM

28. Today is a great day.

It should be a national holiday!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:51 AM

29. Rove was also the bus driver!

LOL

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:52 AM

30. Well, of course if he's the one responsible for the potholes

he should be the one to fill them (I mean that literally)!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:13 AM

31. Promise?

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:18 AM

35. The fact that he has never had the book thrown at him yet...

tells me he never will. I'm sure he's got hundreds of crack lawyers lined up in case he's ever indicted and that, since he's a slippery SOB, nothing will ever stick. I hope I'm wrong because he is, truly, a despicable piece of garbage.

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Response to ailsagirl (Reply #35)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:35 AM

40. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Even Capone had an army of " crack lawyers " yet, the outcome did NOT fair too well for Al.

Its NOT Karl that will do himself in,....its the snitches who sell Karl out and cut a deal to save their own a$$es from threat of criminal prosecution.

Impossible task to silence everyone in-the-know when you don't know who the person is and where the info is coming from....

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Response to Segami (Reply #40)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:01 AM

51. Your post gives me hope

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Response to ailsagirl (Reply #51)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:07 AM

55. Hope is a good thing. Patience is also a virtue!

Lets wait and see what the future unfolds. I made some fresh popcorn....have some!


This movie is just about to begin.

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Response to Segami (Reply #55)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:48 AM

64. Popcorn? Don't mind if I do

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Response to ailsagirl (Reply #35)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:53 AM

47. "Hundreds of crack lawyers"? LOL!

Sorry, the image of hundreds of lawyers in one room doing crack just...um, cracked me up!

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Response to randome (Reply #47)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:03 AM

53. I can see why, lol!!

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Response to randome (Reply #47)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:09 AM

58. LOLOL!!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:19 AM

36. All I want for Christmas is a Rove frog march

A Rove frog march, a Rove frog march
All I want for Christmas is a Rove frog march
so we can shout, "Merry Christmas"!

♫♫

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:20 AM

37. "he may be facing jail time"? Not if Holder has anything to say about it.

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:24 AM

38. If we want him in jail, do it the American way!

Plant a small amount of rock coke in his pocket.

Oh yeah, that only works for poor (smaller majorities) minorities. Sorry!

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Response to SCVDem (Reply #38)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:13 AM

77. The IRS finally got Al Capone; he was jailed not for murder but tax evasion

That's how you get the "untouchable" crooks in the US.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:27 AM

39. Yes!

I'm having sweet, sweet schadenfreude for breakfast again.

How can someone be "assured" of victory unless they were doing something shady behind the scenes. Hmmmm. I wonder if the paperwork was "lost".

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:42 AM

43. Hmmmm....I'm thinking of another douche whose reach exceeded his grasp.....

...if memory serves he was a former bug killer from Sugar Land Texas.

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Response to BlueManFan (Reply #43)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:43 AM

44. And ridiculous dancer!!

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Response to BlueManFan (Reply #43)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:58 AM

49. Despicable Tom Delay

May we never see or hear from that creep again.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:49 AM

46. But let's consider what he accomplished. He got a shrub appointed twice who killed

 

the economy and our respect as nation abroad. He took a surplus into a deficit. He did his best to contain the damage from McGrumpy and the Palinoid, convinced enough morons in 2010 to regain control of the house because the shrub's work was all Obama's fault, and he just rid us, probably permanently, of the entire GOP clown car from the primary wasting countless millions from people who are too rich to notice it anymore than I'd look in my wallet and ask, "Wait, didn't I have a fiver in here yesterday?"

Personally, his most recent work is pretty impressive.

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Response to HopeHoops (Reply #46)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:34 AM

63. Don't forget the WMDs & totally unnecessary Invasion/War on Iraq

That killed and disabled thousands upon thousands on both sides for years.

How many people have suffered and died as at least an indirect result of his actions? Millions.

The sooner he is incarcerated and finally begins to suffer for his actions, the better.

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Response to HopeHoops (Reply #46)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 05:59 PM

70. Right. I used to say they weren't "failures," they were quite successful.

Evil is hard work.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:55 AM

48. Oh, no. Dick Gregory will have to find a new dance partner now.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:02 AM

52. re: KARL ROVE Under Attack By His Own Party, being thrown under the bus in a blame game.

"hey failed to file the necessary legal paperwork to even exist in the first place"

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:05 AM

54. Think of the money we could raise if we sold tickets for people to have a turn driving the bus

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #54)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:17 AM

59. I'm bringing my OWN BUS!!



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Response to Segami (Reply #59)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:33 AM

62. Got mine!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:07 AM

56. The next election he can help with is President of the Cell Block

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:33 AM

61. Not Legal

--these people don't worry about such minor technicalities.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:53 AM

65. Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team)

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:49 PM

67. what's the phone number of the IRS tip line?

I think this might warrant a little help from members of the public.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 06:04 PM

71. Karl will never go to jail.

Karl will never be charged, will never pay what he owes, will never face the music.

Period.

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Response to joeunderdog (Reply #71)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 06:07 PM

72. Sadly, I think you are right.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:22 AM

73. rove's been digging his own political grave.. who knew

this would be the result with all that Bluster he was spewing from his fox hole?

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:11 AM

76. Finished? Rove? I won't believe it until someone drives a stake through his heart

The man has a certain ... resilience ... rather the way Dick Nixon had. Also powerful, powerful friends.

Although, there's always the possibility that even he may have gone too far. It would be so sweet to see the IRS go after him the way it went after Al Capone. It would be poetry if some bright progressive researcher dug up all the names of those donors whose money got insufficiently laundered -- and published them. And music to my ears to hear someone like Rachel describe his haggard shaken appearance after a quiet yet eventful dinner with the Koch Brothers.

A girl can dream.

Hekate

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:14 AM

78. I want to see all the names of the parties in this illegal group...

they have no shield.

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