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Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:58 PM

Would you be in favor of a full investigation and hearings of Benghazi?


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Yes, the truth must be revealed, good or bad
14 (50%)
Yes, I think something smells fishy about the whole business
0 (0%)
No, it is a political game by the GOP and there is no "there", there
10 (36%)
No, I am willing to let this slide, don't want the Democrats to possibly look bad or found at fault
0 (0%)
Something else (explain)
4 (14%)
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Reply Would you be in favor of a full investigation and hearings of Benghazi? (Original post)
quinnox Nov 2012 OP
ProSense Nov 2012 #1
cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #9
ProSense Nov 2012 #12
Kalidurga Nov 2012 #2
Stinky The Clown Nov 2012 #3
Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #4
Myrina Nov 2012 #24
JohnnyLib2 Nov 2012 #5
pansypoo53219 Nov 2012 #6
Hissyspit Nov 2012 #7
Cleita Nov 2012 #8
Initech Nov 2012 #10
Cleita Nov 2012 #11
DCKit Nov 2012 #13
Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2012 #14
CBHagman Nov 2012 #15
Dr Fate Nov 2012 #16
ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2012 #17
calico1 Nov 2012 #18
Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #19
Spazito Nov 2012 #20
obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #21
Spazito Nov 2012 #23
obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #25
Spazito Nov 2012 #26
obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #30
SDjack Nov 2012 #22
bunnies Nov 2012 #27
bigwillq Nov 2012 #28
BlueStreak Nov 2012 #29
Xithras Nov 2012 #31

Response to quinnox (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:03 PM

1. After Iraq, torture and the

more than a dozen embassy attacks under Bush.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021330541

People are pushing this idiotic RW angle as if there is some nefarious actions involving the administration. It was a fucking attack.

On edit, the matter is being looked into at this very moment.

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Response to ProSense (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:04 PM

9. A murdered Ambassador deserves NOTHING LESS .

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:45 PM

12. The matter is being looked into, but

using the Ambassador's death to hype a witchhunt is despicable. Attacks happen, and people die, tragically.

<...>

Williamson served as an official under President George W. Bush. Numerous deadly attacks on diplomatic compounds in countries like Pakistan, Yemen and Syria took place during the Bush administration. When countries around the world were engulfed in protests over Danish cartoons depicting the prophet Muhammad, the Bush administration condemned the material as “unacceptable” even as it repeated the United States’s dedication to free speech.

The United Nations, where Williamson served as a diplomat, suffered a massive attack in 2003 when a truck bomb in Iraq killed 22 people including the U.N.’s top envoy to the country at the organization’s headquarters. The international body withdrew nearly its entire staff from the country for several years.

- more -

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/romney-adviser-under-president-romney-libya-attack-never-would-have-happened.php

The fact that it was a top-level official warrants getting to the bottom of what happened for security purposes, and that is ongoing.

Still, the underlying premise of the hype to launch a massive investigation is that there was a failure on the administration's part.

You have people making up conspiracy theories to justify a witchhunt. It's bullshit!

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:03 PM

2. Yes, but Republicans absolutely can't be trusted to do the job.

If Republicans are in charge they will be investigating Susan Rice. The people that were murdered to see if they somehow provoked the attack. They will investigate what Obama had for breakfast that morning. What they will not investigate is whether or not their budget cuts to defending our embassies and consulates had anything to do with what went wrong. They won't investigate what the chain of command did. Nope they will only investigate Democrats and people appointed by a Democratic President.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:07 PM

3. Emphatically so.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:09 PM

4. I have not yet seen anything which would indicate that there is a "there" there.



PB

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Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:12 PM

24. My thoughts exactly.

n/t

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:16 PM

5. Yes. It's a screw up to be explained.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:58 PM

6. treat it like HOW MANY OF GWB'S EMBASSY ATTCKS WERE TREATED.

were THEY investigated FULLY? can you say WHITEWATER??????

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:59 PM

7. Right after the full investigations for everything that happened during eight years of

the Bush administration.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:01 PM

8. Yes, but not for the reasons set out by the right wing.

I do believe exposing the indisputable truth backed by facts here will backfire on the Repubs and expose it for the political ruse that it is.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:14 PM

10. As much as I'd love to see the right have their toy taken away from them...

I think the truth about the massive security fuck up will be ignored for the most part. It will be just an extension of the birther movement - no matter how much evidence or facts are presented the GOP will simply ignore it.

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Response to Initech (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:35 PM

11. Don't they always. But the truth will have to come out anyway.

It always does and even though the BIG LIE may make it on to the media, over and over, it will be discredited. The birther movement has already been discredited. Obama's huge victory in this election is proof of that.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:50 PM

13. Open and televised hearings, sure.

 

Fastest way to get the Repubs to back off and STFU.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:53 PM

14. Absolutely. The people should always know what their public servants are doing.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:55 PM

15. I do not favor a special committee but do believe there should be normal hearings.

But that was already in progress and will no doubt continue.

Senators McCain, Ayotte, and Graham, though, went too far in asking for a Watergate/Iran-contra style committee.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:59 PM

16. Ben-whozi?

Obama & DEMS need to focus on jobs and off-shoring, not this nonsense.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:59 PM

17. I very much want a very public investigation that will undoubtably end

up being more embarrassing to the insane rightwingnuttery than it will be to the President or Amb. Rice. Also, I suspect it will end much like Fast and Furious did and I want to the opportunity to feast on that schadenfreude!

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:01 PM

18. Yes.

A full investigation. So when it is found out that neither the President nor anyone in his Administration did anyting devious, the GOP look like the asses they are.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:02 PM

19. There may very well be no "there" there.

But how will we know that for sure without an investigation?

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:05 PM

20. What makes you think that is not happening now?

There are Senate hearings, investigations wrt the CIA response, etc.

It seems to me your post is more in line with what the repubs are putting forward than the reality, I'm sure that implication was not what you intended but it is how it reads.

Do you think this requires a Watergate level of investigation? If not, what do you think needs to be done that is, as yet, not being done?

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Response to Spazito (Reply #20)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:06 PM

21. As per Susan Collins (R-ME), it IS happening

She told McCain he would know that if he had attended a classified meeting yesterday, like she did.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #21)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:10 PM

23. Yep, that is what I understand as well...

which is why I found this OP somewhat curious to say the least.

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Response to Spazito (Reply #23)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:16 PM

25. I have a decent amount of respect for Collins

As I did Snowe. Sometimes they really piss me off, and I disagree with them, but they aren't Wingnuts. I wish Collins would just go (I-ME).

Calling for a "Watergate" investigation is playing into McCain and the haters' and racists' hands. Collins is a reasonable and intelligent person, and a REPUBLICAN, and she told McCain to STFU.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #25)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:28 PM

26. I also have respect for both, they were the last remaining truly moderate...

republicans left in the party for some time, imo, now only Collins carries that banner. I honestly think Collins still carries the hope that by staying she can influence some members to moderate their rabid views. I think it's hopeless but it seems she does not, as yet anyway.

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Response to Spazito (Reply #26)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:50 PM

30. Agreed -- I think it's significant Snowe threw in the towel

I do wonder if she helped handpick Angus King.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:09 PM

22. Go back to the Clinton Administration and do all embassy attacks forward to this one.

Here is my observation of what happened during the Clinton admin. The Congress hardened their grounds and buildings. Nothing that I could see was done to hardened the White House grounds. And, the recommendations that embassy grounds and buildings be hardened was rejected by the Republican House -- most of the buildings are too close to the road, and hardening/relocation was too expensive. That is, they are expendable. When one gets blown to hell, build a better one to replace it. As a private businessman, I visited an embassy in West Africa during "W's" first term. Scared the crap out of me. The embassy staff live under serious threat everyday. We should do better for them.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:30 PM

27. Something else:

If I hear the word Benghazi one more frigging time I think Im gonna snap.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:31 PM

28. Yes (nt)

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:32 PM

29. What does "full investigation" mean?

First, there is every indication that this was actually a CIA outpost, not a diplomatic consulate. If that is the case, then I am not in favor of a major public spectacle.

There is a good possibility that this was a one-off event that might not reveal much that could guide us in the future. But we should be interested in examining all the facts to see what might be done differently, if anything.

But I must say that this is not the tone the Republicans have used so far. They seem to have no interest in the fact and just want to make really wild, outrageous accusations. In other words, grandstanding. The nice thing about a formal hearing is that their grandstanding time is limited, and there should be an opportunity for facts to be put on the record. And after these facts are widely discussed, the Republicans should sit down and shut up about their wild theories.

If the Republicans actually have some constructive suggestions ... oh never mind. That never happens.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 06:31 PM

31. In a free society, government must be transparent

If some people have questions, hold a public inquiry. While it may be inconvenient, I'll choose openess every time.

Besides, I'm 100% certain that the investigation will reveal no wrongdoing. If the Republicans want to waste their time and make themselves look like buffoons in front of America, I say we let them do it.

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