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Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:06 PM

Obamacare Price Hike Cheered By Ian's Pizza

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/15/papa-johns-obamacare-ians-pizza_n_2133050.html

" Martin, a part owner of Ian’s Pizza, a pizza shop with four locations in Wisconsin, said his business has offered full heath care coverage to its 50 full-time employees for years, making it all the more difficult to compete with national chains like Papa John's that pay workers low wages without health benefits.

"This may level the playing field for us,” Martin said of the Papa John's price hike. “If they have to pay for benefits, and that pushes their prices up closer to ours, it will justify what we’ve been paying for and what we’ve been fighting to do the past few years.” "

What? Small business can now compete against multinational chains...the horror!

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Reply Obamacare Price Hike Cheered By Ian's Pizza (Original post)
pipewrench Nov 2012 OP
Chiquitita Nov 2012 #1
lalalu Nov 2012 #2
Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #3
pipewrench Nov 2012 #4
NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #5
calimary Nov 2012 #44
femrap Nov 2012 #48
Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #51
calimary Nov 2012 #53
BainsBane Nov 2012 #6
bluestate10 Nov 2012 #18
argiel1234 Nov 2012 #32
femrap Nov 2012 #49
rhett o rick Nov 2012 #7
Puzzledtraveller Nov 2012 #8
leftstreet Nov 2012 #9
femrap Nov 2012 #50
Bandit Nov 2012 #17
ieoeja Nov 2012 #24
plethoro Nov 2012 #10
libdem4life Nov 2012 #11
pipewrench Nov 2012 #12
libdem4life Nov 2012 #23
Liberalynn Nov 2012 #13
valerief Nov 2012 #14
pacalo Nov 2012 #47
Populist_Prole Nov 2012 #15
AlbertCat Nov 2012 #16
pipewrench Nov 2012 #19
ck4829 Nov 2012 #29
bora13 Nov 2012 #35
calimary Nov 2012 #45
Myrina Nov 2012 #20
Locrian Nov 2012 #21
Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #38
wryter2000 Nov 2012 #22
olegramps Nov 2012 #25
liberal N proud Nov 2012 #26
MadBadger Nov 2012 #27
bluesbassman Nov 2012 #28
Name Unpronounceable Nov 2012 #30
pipewrench Nov 2012 #39
Divine Discontent Nov 2012 #40
calimary Nov 2012 #46
freshwest Nov 2012 #31
shenmue Nov 2012 #33
City Lights Nov 2012 #34
patrice Nov 2012 #36
Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #37
LynneSin Nov 2012 #41
Loudestlib Nov 2012 #42
defacto7 Nov 2012 #43
arthritisR_US Nov 2012 #52

Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:06 PM

1. This is great to hear!

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:09 PM

2. And so the change begins.

 

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:10 PM

3. Weren't they the ones that supplied pizzas to the protesters in the Wisconsin capital??

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:11 PM

4. yes

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:12 PM

5. Yep.

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:37 PM

44. The very same. Many of us DUers placed orders!

That was such a tasty (literally!) little sidebar story to the larger one about the upheaval and screw-job the state republi-CONS and scott walker tried to perpetrate on public employees unions. They had a macaroni and cheese pizza that was the talk of the internet! They were the ones who kept a running blackboard "tote board" of all the states from which people were phoning pizza orders to be delivered to the protesters in the state capitol. Soon it had expanded to 50 states and several territories AND some 60 countries!

Ian's Pizza ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to calimary (Reply #44)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:40 AM

48. Now I want to

 

visit Wisconsin just for an Ian's pizza! It's a beautiful state....been a long time since I was there.

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:06 PM

51. Remember this?

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #51)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:33 PM

53. Yep, that's the one!

It was such fun to watch that list expand week by week! Actually, day by day!

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:16 PM

6. Yet another reason to patronize local businesses

and actually get decent pizza, which is exactly what I did last night.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:56 PM

18. I do. I am somewhat price insensitive. I care more about quality. I can't see any one that calls

themselves a Liberal not being willing to pay a little more to accomplish an important social goal. And I am a Moderate, aka bluedog.

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Response to bluestate10 (Reply #18)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:39 PM

32. i found your comment interesting

 

in what ways do you consider yourself a "moderate"?

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Response to bluestate10 (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:44 AM

49. You must

 

consider yourself quite lucky to be 'price insensitive.' Others simply don't have that choice. Even a Moderate Bluedog should realize that, right?

And, I agree with the other poster...what defines you as a Bluedog? Social issues? Financial assistance to the poor?

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:18 PM

7. i hope someone is keeping track of the good businesses and the bad (repuke) businesses. nm

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:21 PM

8. That we are referring to obamacare as a price hike is a no win

and that this is an unintended cosequence is a no win either, we can feel secure that it is the law of the land but what does it say about us? Why we still call it and tolerate it being called Obamacare for exmaple, and that it's okay in this situation to be called a price hike, wtf people?

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Response to Puzzledtraveller (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:24 PM

9. 4 yrs ago we were talking about single payer, public option, etc

Now the debate is cost and pizza dude shiny bubbles

We're fucked

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:57 AM

50. "pizza dude

 

shiny bubbles." Yea, I remember 4 years ago. And I remember watching Obama on TV saying, "Since I've arrived in Washington, I have changed my mind on the public option." I was

I have no idea how these State Health Exchanges are going to work.

I had my first encounter w/ Medicare this year. My mother fractured her pelvic bone. She is 85 and has never had any health problems before. So going through the hospital stay and then her being literally pushed into a the most ghastly nursing home was eye-opening, scary and extremely frustrating. And then I saw the bills that Medicare paid.

That nursing home in NO WAY deserved all that money given the service they provided.

It's true....the US pays the most for health care and gets the WORST return.

If I have to go to a nursing home to die, I'll kill myself first. The people at this nursing gave me that advice. We give better treatment to our pets when it comes to the end.

So I guess you're right. We're fucked.

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Response to Puzzledtraveller (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:55 PM

17. Keep in mind Obamacare is a Republican written Bill.

Of course it is going to impact the common person while Big Business keeps on going and if anything appears to affect their bottom line they will just pass it along to the public...

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Response to Puzzledtraveller (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:06 PM

24. Back during the healthcare fight, polls had over 70% of Americans willing to pay more taxes.


That would have been substantially higher taxes for single payer. And you're worried we are going to freak out over a 5% increase on the price of pizza?

And I believe that Obama now calls it "Obamacare". I believe he loves the idea that his name may forever be associated with universal healthcare.

Republicans kept drumming the beat that "free healthcare isn't free" as if we thought it would be free rather than being paid for by an increase in taxes or prices on other things. Were they right? Did you actually believe this was going to be without cost?


In 2011 Illinois increased personal income taxes by 2/3rd from 3% to 5%. Everybody screamed. A few weeks ago I reminded some of the screamers. Their response? "Oh, yeah, I had forgotten about that. Do you know when that goes into effect?"

It went into effect two years ago. The screamers didn't even notice. And you're afraid of these morons?


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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:36 PM

10. Excellent!..........nft

 

dddddddddd

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:37 PM

11. I'd like to see signs in retail windows "Welcome, We Proudly Provide Health Care for Our Employees.

thus they are healthy, motivated and will serve you well."

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Response to libdem4life (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:42 PM

12. Wait until the first commercial

That will start a huge wave of support and a complete collapse of the poor-multinational prosecution complex.

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Response to pipewrench (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:04 PM

23. I can wait. Barely.

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:50 PM

13. Fantastic

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:50 PM

14. Good for Ian's Pizza to do the right thing from the get-go! nt

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Response to valerief (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:52 PM

47. +1. That's how I look at it.

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:52 PM

15. Mega chains think a lousy 15 cent price advantage is their ace in the hole?

"Mom & Pop" pizza can compete just fine with mega chains: They don't peddle bland vapid garbage as food; and if someone is willing to eat such stuff because of a lousy 15 cent price reduction, then they're either conservative tools or so destitute that they shouldn't be eating any of that stuff anyway.

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:54 PM

16. When the hell did "Obamacare"...

.... suddenly become all about pizza????

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Response to AlbertCat (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:59 PM

19. eating pizza once a week over many years will force a visit to the doctor.

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Response to AlbertCat (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:44 PM

29. Hey, if it's a symbol that's exposing the Republicans for the pompous plutocrats that they are...

Then pizza for all.

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Response to AlbertCat (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:30 PM

35. don't be 9-9-9'ng me.... : )

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Response to bora13 (Reply #35)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:41 PM

45. Welcome to DU, bora13! Good one!

Glad you're here! The corporate mindset certainly does make a laughingstock out of itself, 'eh?

Besides, local pizza joints are SO far superior to the big chains!

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:19 PM

20. I <3 Ian's!! They make me wish I lived in WI again ...

Oh, a relocation is so tempting ...

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:40 PM

21. makes me wonder about Papa Johns

Makes me wonder if they dick with you over 3-5 cents for healthcare how much do they cut corners on pizza ingredients and stuff.

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Response to Locrian (Reply #21)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:55 PM

38. That's a good point.

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:48 PM

22. I remember Ian's

I ordered a pizza for the protestors from Ian's. WTG, Ian's!

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:19 PM

25. We have always patronized our local pizza restaurant.

It beats the franchise crap that we have eaten at other people's homes. They hire almost exclusively high school kids with the owner and his son overseeing.

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:04 PM

26. Bu... but... BUT: Obamacare will kill small business



Another fucking republican myth laid to rest!

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:09 PM

27. This just makes me hungry for some Mac n' cheese Pizza



yummmm

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:41 PM

28. I expect to see this prominantly run on Faux News.

That is if those pesky flying pigs quit knocking down my satellite dish.

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 04:54 PM

30. Papa John's sucks

In my neighborhood, a Papa John's opened up next to a mom and pop pizza shop that had been open for forty years and just a couple of years ago it closed down. Maybe the guy just retired or maybe he couldn't compete. But how could an authentic pizza shop not mop the floors with the garbage that Papa John's sells? You can sit down and shoot the breeze with the owner and order anything from a pizza to a calzone to a plate of spaghetti and meatballs with a poster of the 2006 Italian soccer team looking down at you from across the counter. Every time I see a commercial of that Papa John sfaccima with his "better ingredients, better pizza" I just give him a hearty va fan culo.

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Response to Name Unpronounceable (Reply #30)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:14 PM

39. +1

great story, thanks for sharing.

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Response to Name Unpronounceable (Reply #30)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:00 PM

40. ha! thanks for sharing! :)

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Response to Name Unpronounceable (Reply #30)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:45 PM

46. Welcome to DU, Name Unpronounceable!

Great story! Thank you for posting! Glad you're here! Good to hear about the customer loyalty! I would much rather go to one of the locals in my neighborhood. Besides, their employees have been there for ages and they've all watched our kids, and all the other kids in the neighborhood, grow up. Kinda like an extended family. It would be shitty to see one of those driven out of business by some big faceless chain. BUY LOCAL!!!!

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:34 PM

31. Who's good for Small Businesses? Say it again!

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 06:14 PM

33. Good for them

I hope they have shops near me.

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 06:17 PM

34. Three cheers for Ian's!

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:09 PM

36. KICK!!!

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:50 PM

37. That's what it's all about! Good job, boys!

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:26 PM

41. I bet the pizza tastes a hell of alot better too

Just saying!

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:34 PM

42. Why?

Why do we allow businesses to put their cost on us?

Those people who work for Papa John, when they get hurt they go to the ER and we pay for it!

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:02 PM

43. K&R

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Response to pipewrench (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:09 PM

52. Now that is the meme that needs to be heard virally!

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