Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:36 AM
Lefta Dissenter (5,200 posts)
Rebellion against the Constitution is a felony! SIGN THE PETITION
"WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:
Enforce Section 3 of the 14h Amendment Section 3 of the 14th Amendment states: “No person shall … hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath… to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof...” States have no Constitutional authority to secede from the United States. Threats of secession constitute a rebellion against the Constitution. We petition that all elected officials who have signed petitions demanding secession, or who have otherwise engaged in rebellion against the Constitution by, for example, calling for the arrest of federal agents operating under Constitutional authority, be identified and removed from office." https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/enforce-section-3-14h-amendment/fGXWgtts Note that not only does this address the issue of secession, but also the situations like we have in Wisconsin in which some legislators have proposed arresting federal agents who enact federally-mandated health care provisions.
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8 replies, 489 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| Lefta Dissenter | Nov 2012 | OP | |
| bowens43 | Nov 2012 | #1 | |
| Marrah_G | Nov 2012 | #2 | |
| struggle4progress | Nov 2012 | #3 | |
| enlightenment | Nov 2012 | #4 | |
| SCantiGOP | Nov 2012 | #5 | |
| Warren Stupidity | Nov 2012 | #6 | |
| Nye Bevan | Nov 2012 | #7 | |
| Locrian | Nov 2012 | #8 |
Response to Lefta Dissenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:40 AM
bowens43 (14,360 posts)
1. no thanks. what a horribly bad idea.
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let's have the government punish people for what they think, say and propose.......what next imprisonment for speaking out against the federal government?
we have a voting process to remove people from office. |
Response to Lefta Dissenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:43 AM
Marrah_G (22,413 posts)
2. I don't agree
Response to Lefta Dissenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:50 AM
struggle4progress (71,480 posts)
3. meh. being a fuggin loudmouth and idiot ain't illegal: it's a Murkin tradition
Response to Lefta Dissenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:55 AM
enlightenment (6,233 posts)
4. There is no textual passage in the Constitution
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or the amendments that prohibits States from seceding, so first statement of that petition is incorrect.
Insurrection and rebellion are specific terms and cannot be legally used in the fashion that this petition lays out. Sedition might be a possibility. |
Response to Lefta Dissenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:11 AM
SCantiGOP (2,705 posts)
5. dumb, very dumb
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runs into something called free speech.
I remember a Junior High civics class where the teacher asked if anyone ever had the right to advocate the overthrow of the government. Of course, everyone said no, so he pointed out that is exactly what the out-of-power party is doing in every Presidential election. The only prohibition is to advocate that overthrow by violence or subversion. |
Response to Lefta Dissenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:32 AM
Warren Stupidity (31,926 posts)
6. discussing secession is not rebellion.
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Just as Congress can add a state, it can allow one to leave. Until the secessionists actually act outside of the law, they are not in violation of the law.
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Response to Lefta Dissenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:38 AM
Nye Bevan (10,838 posts)
7. Try not to be so afraid of those nutcases.
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Just ignore them, and they will eventually shut up.
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Response to Lefta Dissenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:54 AM
Locrian (1,813 posts)
8. renounce citizenship?
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Isn't this like renouncing citizenship? Doesn't that have a lot of implications for voting, buying a gun etc? Might want to mention that to some of the nutbags out there
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