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Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:01 AM

Angus King (I) Slaps Down McCain For Petty, Premature, And Partisan Attack On Susan Rice

Maine Sen.-elect Angus King questioned the judgment of two longtime GOP senators on Thursday, arguing that their opposition to promoting U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice to secretary of state was “premature.”
“I don’t really like starting out my Senate career — I’m not even sworn in yet — getting crosswise with some of the leaders of the other party,” King said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “But I thought it was a bit premature. There was a statement that she was up to her eyeballs or something in the policy, and I think there needs to be a little more of a factual basis for that. If all she did was provide that briefing based on the intelligence she was given, then it strikes me that taking a hardline position against a pretty distinguished diplomat was a bit premature. I’ll leave it at that.”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83900.html#ixzz2CIeOKszr



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Reply Angus King (I) Slaps Down McCain For Petty, Premature, And Partisan Attack On Susan Rice (Original post)
DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 OP
cali Nov 2012 #1
CincyDem Nov 2012 #4
Renew Deal Nov 2012 #6
eShirl Nov 2012 #18
Lucinda Nov 2012 #34
Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #45
bullwinkle428 Nov 2012 #2
Smarmie Doofus Nov 2012 #3
dchill Nov 2012 #13
ms liberty Nov 2012 #42
dchill Nov 2012 #44
BeyondGeography Nov 2012 #5
1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #10
Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #46
Scuba Nov 2012 #43
sheshe2 Nov 2012 #7
eShirl Nov 2012 #8
CTyankee Nov 2012 #29
ReRe Nov 2012 #9
ROBROX Nov 2012 #11
AlbertCat Nov 2012 #21
Please proceed Nov 2012 #12
GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #36
Jennicut Nov 2012 #50
George II Nov 2012 #14
femrap Nov 2012 #15
eShirl Nov 2012 #16
John2 Nov 2012 #20
femrap Nov 2012 #49
AlbertCat Nov 2012 #22
bluedigger Nov 2012 #23
femrap Nov 2012 #39
Mass Nov 2012 #26
area51 Nov 2012 #47
femrap Nov 2012 #48
MgtPA Nov 2012 #53
joeybee12 Nov 2012 #17
cyclezealot Nov 2012 #19
bluedigger Nov 2012 #24
cyclezealot Nov 2012 #30
bluedigger Nov 2012 #35
cyclezealot Nov 2012 #40
Hutzpa Nov 2012 #25
DallasNE Nov 2012 #27
usaf-vet Nov 2012 #28
kurt_cagle Nov 2012 #54
kentuck Nov 2012 #31
bluestate10 Nov 2012 #33
Stinky The Clown Nov 2012 #32
Cha Nov 2012 #37
mainer Nov 2012 #38
RBInMaine Nov 2012 #41
LynneSin Nov 2012 #51
hrmjustin Nov 2012 #52
jpak Nov 2012 #55

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:02 AM

1. I think I'm going to like having King in the Senate.

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Response to cali (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:05 AM

4. Oh yeah - gotta love anyone named "Angus" in today's day and age n/t

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Response to cali (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:24 AM

6. I've seen affection for him by DUers in the past

But I know nothing about the guy.

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Response to eShirl (Reply #18)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:27 PM

34. Thanks for the Wiki link. I hadn't made time to check him out yet. I like what I see so far!

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 03:07 AM

45. I think he blows with the wind.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:04 AM

2. Smacking down McLame before he's even sworn in...I LIKE IT!!!

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:05 AM

3. Not to mention "petulant". And "peevish". n/t

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Response to Smarmie Doofus (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:11 AM

13. And poopyheaded.

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Response to dchill (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:02 PM

42. And sometimes pompous as well! n/t

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Response to ms liberty (Reply #42)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:46 PM

44. And a propinquity for the pusillanimous.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:19 AM

5. "The other party"

I know he has agreed to caucus with our side as an independent, but I like the wording anyway.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:28 AM

10. Yep ...

I listened to him discussing his decision to caucas with the Democratic Party and was mildly optimistic, as he continuously came back to his being an Independent; but this phrasing has me feeling better.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 03:10 AM

46. Me too ...

... but I've been told I'm cynical.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:10 PM

43. Jumped right off the screen, didn't it?

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:25 AM

7. + 1

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:26 AM

8. Oh yes. Angus is quite popular around here. (Maine)

I predict that soon, everyone will love Angus.


sorry, can't seem to find this on youtube:
http://www.hulu.com/watch/4109

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Response to eShirl (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:34 PM

29. That was the first time I heard him speak and I thought to myself "He's a good man and nice."

that was a very measured, reasonable thing to say. And I think most people would agree with him. The republicans are just making things worse for themselves with this stuff. Nobody wants to hear it. It isn't material to anything. Voters have already said that they are FED UP with this stuff...

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:27 AM

9. I llliiiiiiikkke it!

K&R

An intelligent man who speaks truth to power. It's going to be like having two Bernie Sanders! Angus King is a straight talker and shooter. It's going to be fun to watch the Senate again!

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:46 AM

11. PREMATURE IS SOMETHING NORMAL FOR AN OLD TIMER

 

The GOP is FOOL of old timers who are so premature they should be in DEPENDS

The FOOLS will step on there owe wits because there cognitive powers are dim versus their premature placing of their foot within their collective mouths.

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Response to ROBROX (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:43 AM

21. I agree!

But if you're posting about dim cognitive powers, you really need to proofread!

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:11 AM

12. Lose one crappy one and get a pretty good one.

 

The Senate lost Independent Joe Lieberman and gained Independent Angus King. How happy am I? Lieberman would have provided cover for his old buddy McCain. Joe's gone, McCain can't leave fast enough.

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Response to Please proceed (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:08 PM

36. Speaking of Lieberman, where is he?

I find it interesting that he's not there spouting this shit with his two little buddies, like he has been for the past 6 years. He is still in the Senate, and will be until January. Are McCain and Graham too full of shit even for him?

I understand Lieberman actually went to to the "hearings" they've been having, unlike Mr. I-Had-A-Schedule-Conflict, and his little toady, Miss Lindsay.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #36)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:30 AM

50. Getting ready for retirement.

Jomentum is done. I don't even think he is retiring in Connecticut. Good riddance to him. I put up with him as my Senator since I was in middle school.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:24 AM

14. I guess that answers the "who is he going to caucus with"question! "Other party"!!!

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:25 AM

15. Would someone explain to me

 

WHY McLame and Pretty Graham HATE Susan Rice....is it as Obama said, "She is an easy target?" No, I think there's more to it. It couldn't be such a stupid reason as Condoleza Rice doesn't want a Black woman with the same last name taking over SoS?

Do they have someone in mind for SoS?

The parents of Chris Stevens, the Ambassador at Benghazi asked that this situation NOT be politicized. Forget that.

And it was funny to hear both McLame and Pretty Graham give IDENTICAL responses about Susan Rice....and the responses were so very, very vague.

Are they trying to PROTECT THE TRUE reasons behind the Benghazi attack on 9/11????? Was this some sort of Repugnant rogue CIA attack???? These two repugnants have their knickers in such a knot over pointing fingers at someone...and is that to DIVERT attention from The Truth???

Can't these 2 asshats just do their job...like avoiding a drop off the Fiscal Cliff?

Go get 'em Angus!

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Response to femrap (Reply #15)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:28 AM

16. simple: Democrats are always, automatically wrong.

and the corollary, Republicans are always, automatically right.

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Response to femrap (Reply #15)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:41 AM

20. I'm

 

still curious about the two Democrats SE claimed would give cover to Graham's and McCain's partisan attacks by objecting to approving Susan Rice if she go forward? If there are two, then we would see where their allegiances are? Let's see the snakes that are in the bed of the GOP? The President is not Dumb and they have nothing here. Just a goose chase by sorry losers and the same obstructionist Bullshit!

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Response to John2 (Reply #20)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:17 AM

49. I still

 

can't figure out who SE is???

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Response to femrap (Reply #15)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:46 AM

22. Would someone explain to me

They want Obama to pick Kerry,...opening up that seat in Mass so Scott Brown can get back in....

Anyway, that's Lawrence O'Donnell's take.

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Response to femrap (Reply #15)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:46 AM

23. They want John Kerry for SoS.

Then Brown can take his seat in the Senate. They are discrediting any rivals to Kerry for the position. It's just partisan politics.

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Response to bluedigger (Reply #23)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:15 PM

39. John Kerry would be

 

better as head of DoD. Either one is OK. But I do hate opening that up to Scottie Brown. Is there anyone else in MA that could take over Kerry's seat??

I don't know...something stinks. And then both of these Senators miss the meeting about Benghazi and McLame throws anyone of his temper tantrums.

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Response to femrap (Reply #15)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:05 PM

26. Putting Obama in a bind

He names somebody else than Rice and people, including here, will say mcCain won and he caved.
He names Rice and has a hard fight when there are more urgent things to deal with.

Both would be great SoS, but as you can see, some have already starting to play McCain's game.

This said, it is possible that other GOP Senators will not play the game. http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/11/15/1194891/gop-mccain-rice/

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Response to femrap (Reply #15)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:05 AM

47. Susan & Condoleezza are relatives. I believe this was mentioned on a PBS Now episode.

Though that may have nothing to do with the attacks against her. Noticeably CR is not defending her cousin.

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Response to area51 (Reply #47)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:15 AM

48. I had no idea

 

they were related. That explains A LOT! It appears that Condoleza has it out for her cousin..."No way is there going to be 2 SoS from this family."

It's a damn shame Susan was scheduled to be that Sunday morning show. I believe anything she said would have been used against her.

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Response to area51 (Reply #47)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:40 AM

53. According to Wikipedia and BBC, they are not related.

"Despite having a doctorate, and being an African American, she is no relation of the current Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7758989.stm

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:32 AM

17. I like Angus already...nt

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:35 AM

19. McCain is thin skinned and does not take criticism well.

Does Angus King realize that.. Sen. Snowe had enough of the gobbers. King as an independent thinks he can reason with these people.Good luck with that.. If he does not adjust senate Gridlock, he'll just be a one term senator.

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Response to cyclezealot (Reply #19)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:51 AM

24. How do you figure?

He won his seat with a good majority and Mainers tend to show loyalty to incumbents. I think he'll be there as long as he wants, barring malfeasance.

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Response to bluedigger (Reply #24)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:00 PM

30. A goal of King was to

be an arbitrator between the parties , facilitate exchange , and work to end the gridlock. As senator, King might not be defeated. But, when he sees being an arbitrator with the make up of the Republicans in the senate- he just might not run for a second term. Olympia Snowe could not stomach much of the Senate GOP make up. You think Argus King will.?

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Response to cyclezealot (Reply #30)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:00 PM

35. Okay, I see your point now.

I thought you meant the electorate would not support him for a second term, but you meant he would be discouraged and not seek reelection. I wouldn't be that surprised if he chose to be a one-term Senator myself, and I suppose his effectiveness would factor into his decision. But it's too much conjecture at this point - he hasn't even been seated yet and we are wondering about his plans for 2018?

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Response to bluedigger (Reply #35)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 06:11 PM

40. If Snowe can't tame them as an insider to the party.

King certainly can't as an outsider.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:54 AM

25. Ba-dang-bish

first shot.

Bunch of premature grand poopy heads.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:15 PM

27. Didn't The "Eyeballs" Statement Come From Lindsey Graham?

It doesn't change the effectiveness of King's statement, which is spot on. The "taking a hardline position against a pretty distinguished diplomat was a bit premature" applies equally to McCain and Graham though.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:23 PM

28. Has the McCain family noticed that the Senator is showing signs...

.... of dementia?

As a veteran I'm tired of McCain getting a pass for what he says and does 40+ years later. Yes I know he was a prisoner of war. I respect that. But that doesn't give him a license to do stupid things today. Stupid like pushing Palin ("I can see Russia from here") onto a national ticket. That move alone showed me a clear lack of sound judgement.

Couple that with his buddy Sen Graham (R) S.C. and that is a whole bunch of stupid. They should both take a moment to listen and take some good advise from Gov. Bobby Jindal. They (GOP) need to stop being Stupid!

McCain IMO has more than used up his punch card he has carried as a POW. It has no more value. It has expired. He needs to add additional point to the card by being a statesmen who serves the American people. Not an angry old looser who appears to have some hatred for Obama and Rice. I might even ask myself is there a racial undertone to his contempt.

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Response to usaf-vet (Reply #28)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:57 AM

54. Senility

I've wondered that about McCain for a while now. He struck me during his run in 2008 as not being as sharp or focused as I remember him in the past, and he has become increasingly extremist after having been at least a pragmatic conservative for most of his career. Lately most reports show him as being irritable and occasionally confused, and I have to wonder if the presser he did during the briefing may have been a memory slip of fairly epic proportions. He is 76 years old, and seems older to me. I don't watch him that closely, but would be curious about whether other people have seen evidence of senile dementia.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:03 PM

31. I'm impressed with Angus King already!

We need more people to speak the truth like this.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #31)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:10 PM

33. King is going to give us a burr every so often. But he fights based on principle. I live in the

state across from his, but respect what I know about him. King is highly respected in his state of Maine.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:05 PM

32. What a refreshing change from Ms. Snow.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:51 PM

37. Wonderful for a Senator from Maine giving a shot of reality

to the immature Senator from Arizona.



http://theobamadiary.com/

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:55 PM

38. Years ago, I remember telling Angus that I wished he could run for President

And his wife sighed and said they were so, so tired of politics. Now look where they ended up!

I really do think he'd make a splendid President. Too bad it's an impossibility.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 06:18 PM

41. King won't be pure, but he'll be good. He's SMART, has integrity, & very popular up here in Maine.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:36 AM

51. Day-um!! I'm liking this guy more and more!!

So glad we didn't fuck this up like we did the Maine Governor election

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:38 AM

52. Good for King!

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:00 PM

55. Angus took Olympia Snowe's safe Senate seat away from the GOP

Hahahahahahaha....

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