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Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:04 AM

Orson Scott Card has a meltdown.

The author of "Ender's Game" has a full-on right-wing meltdown.


Orson Scott Card, the author and National Organization for Marriage board member, lashed out at the media for covering up Obama’s lies and acting like Nazis!

Barack Obama is still a liar -- you didn't change that, you merely hid it.

Barack Obama is still the selfish, cowardly commander-in-chief who abandons American public servants -- you didn't change him, nor did you give him any reason to change.



If America had a Joseph Goebbels who would arrest any journalist who reported anything that would make the administration look bad, did you write or say or report anything during this election campaign that would have put you inside a jail cell?

Everybody at Fox News would have been jailed, and Fox News would have been shut down. But you already do everything you can to get people not to listen to Fox, so the actions of such a propaganda minister would merely make official what you already try to accomplish by other means.

Don't you dare say I'm lying or exaggerating, because the Democrats did try to shut down conservative talk radio, and you supported them in that effort, allowing them to get away with calling the proposed action "fairness."

You go along with the big lie every day. You did it obviously and openly in these last weeks before the election, allowing Barack Obama to conceal, cover up, lie -- all because, like good obedient party flacks, you knew that nothing was more important than keeping the Beloved Leader in power.



But far more likely is the other alternative -- that, faced with your monolithic groupthink, your insistent flacking for the Beloved Leader, your dishonesty that is equal to his dishonesty, your emulation of Pravda, the Republicans in Congress will give up, Fox News will drop the story, it will all go away, and the Beloved Leader will continue in power.

Then, when his appeasement of our enemies results in a nuclear explosion in Tel Aviv ... When more and more Al-Qaeda-style attacks kill more Jews and more Americans around the world ...



Just because brown-shirted thugs aren't beating your opponents in the streets doesn't mean you aren't every bit as much the enemies of democracy as any Nazi or Bolshevik ever was.

http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2012-11-08-1.html

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Reply Orson Scott Card has a meltdown. (Original post)
Archae Nov 2012 OP
gateley Nov 2012 #1
eqfan592 Nov 2012 #18
gateley Nov 2012 #21
Hugabear Nov 2012 #34
gateley Nov 2012 #36
Posteritatis Nov 2012 #24
Agnosticsherbet Nov 2012 #27
phantom power Nov 2012 #30
FVZA_Colonel Nov 2012 #2
tledford Nov 2012 #23
Sundome Nov 2012 #3
gateley Nov 2012 #22
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #26
TeamPooka Nov 2012 #4
Sundome Nov 2012 #6
TeamPooka Nov 2012 #10
Skittles Nov 2012 #5
SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2012 #7
kelliekat44 Nov 2012 #8
defacto7 Nov 2012 #9
Flatpicker Nov 2012 #11
Lex Nov 2012 #12
eShirl Nov 2012 #13
Lex Nov 2012 #15
sigmasix Nov 2012 #14
cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #16
Indpndnt Nov 2012 #20
Ganja Ninja Nov 2012 #17
randome Nov 2012 #19
closeupready Nov 2012 #25
Dawson Leery Nov 2012 #28
RomneyLies Nov 2012 #29
Gabi Hayes Nov 2012 #37
montanto Nov 2012 #31
obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #32
caveat_imperator Nov 2012 #33
ck4829 Nov 2012 #35

Response to Archae (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:07 AM

1. Damn. Liked so many of his books. Didn't come across as a hate-filled whack.

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Response to gateley (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:07 AM

18. Agreed.

I was really stunned to find out just how much of a whackaloon he really is. I even have an autographed copy of one of his books here in my house.

Oh well, I'm not getting rid of any of the Enders Game series of books no matter how crazy he is.

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Response to eqfan592 (Reply #18)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:29 PM

21. Haha! Don't blame you. But once I learn something like that, I can't read or watch without

that knowledge being front and center in my mind. Like the Mom on The Middle. It almost pisses me off that I think she does a great job with her character.

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Response to gateley (Reply #21)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:29 PM

34. Patricia Heaton does a good job with her character?

It's the exact same character she played on "Everybody Loves Raymond." At least that show had Peter Boyle and Doris Roberts.

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Response to Hugabear (Reply #34)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:14 PM

36. Never saw that show -- never have seen her in anything else.

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Response to gateley (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:37 PM

24. It's sad as much as annoying

I liked Ender's Game and will occasionally take it out again every couple of years, and found some of the other books in that setting interesting even if they did get pretty silly as time goes by (and, reading between the lines, some of the hate becomes more obvious there).

Haven't actually bought any of his stuff since I became aware of the extent to which the Brain Eater got him the last several years, though.

I don't like it when people I respected strive as hard as this guy has to lose that.

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Response to gateley (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:42 PM

27. He doesn't write about his own character.

And even hate-filled whacks don't see hate filled whacks as sympathetic characters.

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Response to gateley (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:53 PM

30. When Ender's Game first came out...

(lo these many years ago), there was a review of it in Asimov's SF, and the reviewer(*) was pointing out how Card's use of "bugger" as the villain tripped his homophobia spider sense. I remember thinking "seems like he's reading too much into that" - but Orson Scott Card did indeed turn out to be a homophobic wingnut.

(*) possibly Norman Spinrad, but don't quote me

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:10 AM

2. He's been a fucking nutbag for years.

He said secession or violent revolution would be an appropriate response to any government (local, state, or federal) passing gay marriage.

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Response to FVZA_Colonel (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:35 PM

23. Yeah, people here in Greensboro tend to avoid him and he avoids everyone...

...kind of a misanthrope.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:10 AM

3. Yes, I could tell from his books by the late 90's that he'd gone religiously wacko

This is sad because his Enders game series was very good. Anne Rice went religiously nuts too, only she didn't go right wing fundy.

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Response to Sundome (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:34 PM

22. I think she pulled herself back from the brink. If I recall, she was furious at

the Church's stance on gays, since her son is gay. Kind of troublesome she didn't see the oppression until it affected her own family, but oh well.

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Response to Sundome (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:41 PM

26. Her best books were written after she had a crisis of faith...

since she's recovered she just boring.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:11 AM

4. Ender's Game the movie is scheduled for release next year

have fun with this issue Summit.
They will throw him to the Twilight vampires....

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:12 AM

6. It's been scheduled for release for over a decade. Maybe this is a new one.

the last one has drug on and on.

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Response to Sundome (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:43 AM

10. directed by Gavin Hood the guy who did Wolverine.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:11 AM

5. he's a Fox News whack job

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:13 AM

7. It's not so much a meltdown as it is hate speech.

It's more of the same crap we see from Trump, religious wackjobs, talk radio hosts, and countless hate mongers. It's their normal behavior.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:14 AM

8. Do these people hear or read what they say?

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:23 AM

9. Delusion here, delusion there


Goodnight Moon, goodnight air,
Goodnight delusions everywhere!

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:46 AM

11. I'd

lost respect for him years ago when he went wacky.That being said, Isn't he a Mormon? Maybe Mittens losing caused him a break with reality?

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:51 AM

12. Like a tantrum from a 14 year old girl.

(My apologies to 14 year old girls.)

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:01 AM

13. did he damage his brain somehow?

seriously, what is his major malfunction?

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Response to eShirl (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:53 AM

15. yes, with Fux News

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:37 AM

14. kid's stuff

Card wrote that one story where there's this kid that no one, not even himself/herself, believes in. The kid has all kinds of adventures and slowly discovers that he/she is the savior of all human kind/intelligent life. Card has one or two stories that don't follow this plot device, but for the most part he's pretty obsessed with the whole "special, backward kid becomes powerful and important, acheives redemption" narrative. (I have my own theories about why that might be) But for the most part you can get the gist by reading "Ender's Game"- the rest of the stuff is just repeating the same plot devices with different names, technology and settings. He has another alternate earth series with a little boy and magic numerology as a back-drop, as well as some rather revealing alternative American history stories that feature clues about Card's world view.
I would suggest that as an author he's kind of a one-trick-pony. But he is published and has a readership-which is more than I can say, so be liberal with the grains of salt.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:00 AM

16. Mormon Right-wing loon Card is Romney's favorite author, by the way

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Response to cthulu2016 (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:06 PM

20. Ah, so someone's not going to be hanging out at the White House.

And he's seriously pissed about that.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:04 AM

17. You have to wonder how much longer people like this can go on ...

without harming themselves. This man sounds like he has a serious mental illness.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:14 AM

19. Orson Scott Card. Ray Bradbury. Clint Eastwood.

I don't think I'll ever be a 'fan' of someone I don't know personally.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:37 PM

25. Oh what a pompous gasbag.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:43 PM

28. Your church is lead by a former Nazi.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:45 PM

29. He's a REALLY CRAPPY writer, too. n/t

 

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Response to RomneyLies (Reply #29)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:25 PM

37. amen.....I tried one of his outhouse t p ers once.....made it about 5 pages. exCRUciatingly hack

as bad as anything I can ever remember.....really stunned anyone thinks it's not meretricious garbage of the lowest order

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:12 PM

31. because he's a full-on, right-wing nutjob, and always has been.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:14 PM

32. He's a Mormon and a total Wingnut

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:18 PM

33. Quite a bit of projection in that screed.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:33 PM

35. Not listening to Fox News is being a Nazi? Huh, wut?

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