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Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:24 AM

Can Obama salvage the rest of this failed second term

I was very pleased with the election last week, but after reading DU, I think we can safely conclude that the second term has been an abject failure.

The question remains whether, in the few remaining days of this second term, is there anything that can be salvaged, or have we hit the point of no return?

The second term was a heady several hours of optimism and hopes, which have now been dashed - kicked to the curb under the bus to slurp the final remains of vomit there.

I guess the only thing left to do is for him to order the invasion of Iran. Not once in the last five minutes has he clearly denied his obvious intention to do so.

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Reply Can Obama salvage the rest of this failed second term (Original post)
jberryhill Nov 2012 OP
still_one Nov 2012 #1
jberryhill Nov 2012 #2
satxdem Nov 2012 #7
jberryhill Nov 2012 #9
JoeyT Nov 2012 #14
Cha Nov 2012 #18
defacto7 Nov 2012 #25
Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #76
JanetLovesObama Nov 2012 #78
Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #81
Cha Nov 2012 #95
Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #102
Zorra Nov 2012 #84
msanthrope Nov 2012 #104
kentuck Nov 2012 #116
Dems50State Nov 2012 #3
jberryhill Nov 2012 #4
ReRe Nov 2012 #43
CakeGrrl Nov 2012 #5
jberryhill Nov 2012 #6
satxdem Nov 2012 #11
Chunk Nov 2012 #24
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #79
NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #31
Scootaloo Nov 2012 #48
SidDithers Nov 2012 #65
msanthrope Nov 2012 #105
TheMadMonk Nov 2012 #109
cui bono Nov 2012 #38
stevenleser Nov 2012 #74
obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #82
cui bono Nov 2012 #87
Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #89
cui bono Nov 2012 #91
Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #93
cui bono Nov 2012 #97
Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #101
Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #88
flamingdem Nov 2012 #8
SidDithers Nov 2012 #10
StrictlyRockers Nov 2012 #12
jberryhill Nov 2012 #15
Tx4obama Nov 2012 #13
jberryhill Nov 2012 #16
Scootaloo Nov 2012 #49
Cha Nov 2012 #19
jberryhill Nov 2012 #22
Cha Nov 2012 #23
ReRe Nov 2012 #46
Skraxx Nov 2012 #64
rzemanfl Nov 2012 #77
theKed Nov 2012 #112
Iggo Nov 2012 #29
Renew Deal Nov 2012 #33
treestar Nov 2012 #60
theKed Nov 2012 #113
tblue Nov 2012 #17
jberryhill Nov 2012 #20
cui bono Nov 2012 #36
ProfessorGAC Nov 2012 #54
treestar Nov 2012 #61
cui bono Nov 2012 #70
treestar Nov 2012 #72
leveymg Nov 2012 #80
treestar Nov 2012 #86
msanthrope Nov 2012 #106
leveymg Nov 2012 #114
cui bono Nov 2012 #90
Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #92
cui bono Nov 2012 #96
Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #100
cui bono Nov 2012 #103
Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #110
treestar Nov 2012 #118
Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #21
defacto7 Nov 2012 #26
outsideworld Nov 2012 #27
Iggo Nov 2012 #28
InsultComicDog Nov 2012 #30
Jamaal510 Nov 2012 #32
cui bono Nov 2012 #34
intaglio Nov 2012 #39
cui bono Nov 2012 #40
jberryhill Nov 2012 #68
cui bono Nov 2012 #71
jberryhill Nov 2012 #57
Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #35
argiel1234 Nov 2012 #37
ohheckyeah Nov 2012 #41
quinnox Nov 2012 #42
Scootaloo Nov 2012 #51
jberryhill Nov 2012 #69
msanthrope Nov 2012 #108
satxdem Nov 2012 #117
Mothdust Nov 2012 #44
mykpart Nov 2012 #45
JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #47
union_maid Nov 2012 #50
DetlefK Nov 2012 #52
Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #53
Hissyspit Nov 2012 #55
Fix The Stupid Nov 2012 #66
seabeyond Nov 2012 #56
wishlist Nov 2012 #58
Puzzledtraveller Nov 2012 #59
pampango Nov 2012 #62
gollygee Nov 2012 #63
grantcart Nov 2012 #67
Dr Fate Nov 2012 #73
Skidmore Nov 2012 #75
jberryhill Nov 2012 #85
WinkyDink Nov 2012 #83
Liberal_in_LA Nov 2012 #111
backscatter712 Nov 2012 #94
Politicub Nov 2012 #98
DCBob Nov 2012 #99
Bucky Nov 2012 #107
Chiquitita Nov 2012 #115

Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:27 AM

1. You are sarcastic, right?

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Response to still_one (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:30 AM

2. Hard to tell on DU, isn't it?

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:43 AM

7. yes.

People go completely manic, on the ledge, because Obama may or may not reform things. Nevermind the fact that we reformed medicare in the ACA without cutting benefits, actually improving on benefits, and expanded medicaid. That was all part of his secret plan to cut SS, medicare, and medicaid in his second term. Nice post by the way. Lol.

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Response to satxdem (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:45 AM

9. But wait until we find out who is praying at the second inaugural


The fun has only just started.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:53 AM

14. Actually that was kind of a big deal.

I'll admit people were a bit over the top with criticism in the first term, but that's one of the ones I don't think was. A guy that supports the death penalty for LGBT people isn't a good choice when so many of them worked so hard on your campaign. There are a whole bunch of Christian Democrats that would've positively jumped at the chance.

There's signal and there's noise in the criticism. Pretty much everyone can admit that. Kneejerk defense isn't any better than kneejerk attacks, is what I'm getting at.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:10 AM

18. I hope to hell that it's a

Wicken!

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Response to Cha (Reply #18)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:37 AM

25. I hope it's an atheist

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Response to Cha (Reply #18)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:26 PM

76. I never knew croquet enthusiasts had their own religion.







Perhaps you meant "Wiccan"?

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Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #76)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:28 PM

78. Your kitty babies are

adorable. I have 7 myself. Kitties are so much sweeter than people.

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Response to JanetLovesObama (Reply #78)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:08 PM

81. I raised those two by hand, they were ferals abandoned by their mother.

Missy and her brother Mu, the Tux. I bottle fed them from one week and two weeks old.


Missy helping me post on DU.




As soon as I get home, Missy and Mu both dig out their rattley mouse toys, and drop them in my lap to throw. They fetch them, bring them back, drop them in my lap, jump down and wiggle their butts waiting for me to throw them again.

We have their Mom inside now, along with two older brothers from two other litters Momma Cat had under our deck.

We are the crazy cat people in the neighborhood.

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Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #76)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 04:15 PM

95. Sure and I did! I should know

how to spell what I'm promoting at the Inauguration

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Response to Cha (Reply #95)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:03 PM

102. Oh, you're one of *those* people.






Around here, we call them "Malletheads".











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Response to jberryhill (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:32 PM

84. Good one! Those "silly gays"! Rumor has it that Pastor Phelps of the Westboro Baptist

Church will get the honor this time.


Wouldn't that just be be totally awesome? Maybe that would get us some of the hard core RW bigot evangelical/KKK vote next election! Fuck those silly LGBT folks/LGBT allies if they get insulted over something so trivial, right?
Bitter





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Response to satxdem (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:14 PM

104. Welcome to DU!!! Stick around!! nt

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Response to satxdem (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:30 PM

116. Excellent!

Very clever!

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:32 AM

3. Obama is still in the first term

 

Technically he hasn't been sworn in yet for a second Term.

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Response to Dems50State (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:35 AM

4. Well there you go - over before it even started

There's still time for us to demand he tell the Electors that he's changed his mind, and simply concede to Romney.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:11 AM

43. Now that reply made me chuckle

K&R "Over before it even started"

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:39 AM

5. It's like

this bizarre mirror image of RW spin: 'OK, he didn't actually do it in his first term - now he'll REALLY do the damage!"

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Response to CakeGrrl (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:42 AM

6. Yeah that was the plan...

Obama ran the first time, absolutely determined to screw working people, the elderly, and the disadvantaged.

But instead he figured, "I'll see if I can get re-elected, and then just go wild!"

He'll probably re-instate DADT just for kicks. I haven't heard him say he won't.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:48 AM

11. he may

Even start defending DOMA in court and start his secret plan to end the voter's rights act. . Since we have people on here who say Obama is a actually a Republican in democrat clothing, somebody even said Obama was to the right of Nixon today.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:35 AM

24. haven't heard him say he won't

 

Well there you go!!!!

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:29 PM

79. Thanks for starting an hilarious thread!

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Response to CakeGrrl (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:20 AM

31. I remember when people here INSISTED that DADT would not be repealed.

Then when it was, they insisted Obama wouldn't actually sign it.

Then when he signed it, they insisted it wouldn't actually be certified.

Then when it was certified, there was no acknowledgement. Just silence as we found something new to be outraged about.

It's like proving a negative. As long as he never cuts SS, people can continue to insist he's about to do it. Really and truly. Any day now. Just you wait. It's coming. Pinky swear! And when January 20, 2017 arrives and he hasn't done it, those people will take credit and claim he really did WANT to do it, but his hand was forced.

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Response to NYC Liberal (Reply #31)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 04:28 AM

48. I remember lots of stuff...

Remember how he was absolutely certainly going to sign SOPA into law?
Remember how he was absolutely certainly going to take us to war in Libya? Iran? Syria?
Remember how he was absolutely certainly going to omit contraception from the ACA?
Remember how he was absolutely certainly going to cut Social Security and Medicare... in 2010?
Remember how he was absolutely certainly going to lose the election because of the "enthusiasm gap?"
Remember how he was absolutely certainly going to approve the Keystone Pipeline?
Remember how he was absolutely certainly going to defend DOMA?


Ahhh... memories.

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Response to NYC Liberal (Reply #31)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:41 AM

65. This is spot on accurate, my friend...

Obama is absolutely going to do all this bad stuff, and when he doesn't, it's only because all the complaining kept him from doing it.



Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #65)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:27 PM

105. Not just the complaining, Sid! The complaining HERE. I am sure the White House reads

us daily! So they KNOW how disgruntled we are!

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #105)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 06:21 PM

109. Good odds we have a real Agent Smith or two kicking around...

 

...the place. Doubtful though that we're any where near as influential as we think we might be.

That said, we're our own little Facebook like gift to the TLA(gencies), and we're a fair distilation of the moderate left, so to that extent I'm sure we have influence.

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Response to CakeGrrl (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:45 AM

38. No, it's more like, we saw how he "negotiated" in his first term, he better not do that again.

Thankfully he seems to have changed his tune so far. Hope he means what he says and keeps it up. And he better pull back SS and Medicare and take them back off the table.

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Response to cui bono (Reply #38)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:20 PM

74. He better not do it again or what? You won't vote for him next time? nt

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #74)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:12 PM

82. lol

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #74)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:51 PM

87. That's exactly the problem. That's why the Dem party keeps moving right. Because they can.

I always have to vote for the lesser of two candidates. Would be nice if we could ever get a true progressive running as a Dem for POTUS in my lifetime.

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Response to cui bono (Reply #87)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:56 PM

89. He's plenty "progressive" enough for most of us. Which is why he cleaned Romney's clock.

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #89)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 04:04 PM

91. He's center. Look at who he appointed in his first term.

There's so much he never did, so many Bushco policies he continued and even expanded. He's done some progressive things that are high profile, DADT, came out in favor of marriage equality, etc... but there's so much that is business as usual and very corporate and bankster friendly and war mongery that one can hardly call him a progressive. Progressive enough for you perhaps, but not a progressive.

This slide show on HuffPo shows a lot of things that are prime examples of how he is not a progressive.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/14/obama-tax-cuts_n_2131256.html#slide=1467992

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Response to cui bono (Reply #91)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 04:08 PM

93. And yet we "RE"elected him by huge margins. Get over yourself. There were alternatives for you &

the "lesser of two evils" crowd. They sucked. Their parties sucked. And they were rewarded accordingly. Perhaps some self reflection is in order. Maybe it's not the party. Maybe it's you?

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #93)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 04:29 PM

97. I really shouldn't respond since I can see you are not replying in good faith...

however....

You really think there was an alternative? Who? Who could have won? PBO was relected by a huge margin because he was the best of TWO candidates. Did you really want progressives to vote for the most progressive candidate? Why? So you could complain when PBO didn't get elected due to too many people voting third party? We both know that's not an option at this point and with our system.

I don't need any self reflection that you are prescribing. And if you really think the Dem party is progressive and just fine as a centrist party then that's all the more reason for me to raise my voice. I want the Dem party to actually fight for the things that are in their platform.

So you are really fine with all the things brought up in that slide show? Really??? Honestly???

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Response to cui bono (Reply #97)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 04:50 PM

101. I'm sorry, but what's in the platform that we're not "fighting for" (God I hate that term)?

And before you start spouting talking points, or some wishlist you downloaded from wsws.com, please stick to what's actually in "the platform".

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #74)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:54 PM

88. If he does, I won't vote for him again, either.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:44 AM

8. I want to see him kick McCain's ass

in his second term, oh that would be so great. He started today.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:46 AM

10. Brilliant...

Very well done JB.

Sid

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Response to StrictlyRockers (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:55 AM

15. No sir, I slurp

The "can't buy it in NYC" size.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:53 AM

13. This morning on one of the cable stations on the bottom of the screen the scroll said ...


something like: President Obama at xx:xx pm to give the first press conference of his second term

I guess some folks do not know that he is still in his first term until January 20, 2013.

I wonder how many uninformed republicans are going to go nuts when they realize that there will be an inauguration in January and also a parade and several inauguration balls - LOL

I can imagine hearing them already hollering about Pres Obama having fun and costing the taxpayers money!

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:57 AM

16. I wonder how many DUers will go nuts...

...when there is a prayer given at the inaugural. And likely by someone who believes in a religion of some kind or other.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 04:34 AM

49. A SLAP IN THE FACE!

Seriously though, inaugural prayers make me wish for real-life TiVo abilities.

I keep hoping for a fellow atheist to take office and be all like "spare me"

Someday, lack of belief in Sky-Demons will become an acceptable position for an American politician. *wistful sigh*

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:11 AM

19. Oooops!

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Response to Cha (Reply #19)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:17 AM

22. Does the idea of massive inaugural balls disturb you?

TX is right.

Obama will probably have the largest inaugural balls of all time.

And people will beg him to suspend his huge inaugural balls.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #22)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:29 AM

23. We have something big to look forward to, lol!

I still remember the last Inaugural Ball on DU when this certain poster(who is no longer here) went absolutely Bonkers because of the Cost of the Inaugural.

That might have been my first taste of pure unadulterated Poutage at the President from those on DU not happy with him being elected.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #22)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:25 AM

46. Oh God!

I just love it when I fall into these pockets of hilarity here on DU. ..."will beg him to suspend his huge inaugural balls."

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #22)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:39 AM

64. I Like Big Balls, Dirty Big Balls

O's got the biggest balls of them all. His balls are always bouncing, his balls are always full...

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #22)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:27 PM

77. Be careful or your tongue will poke a hole in your cheek.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #22)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:11 PM

112. teehee...balls.

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:05 AM

29. Oh yeah, huh!

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:34 AM

33. And most folks don't know Obama is in his first term until 1/21/13

Yup, Obama has an extra day in his first term.

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:35 AM

60. The ignorance is amazing, isn't it?

I have read comments on the internetz that R$, when they hoped he would win, would be President on Nov. 7. Now that's the Stupid talking.

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Response to treestar (Reply #60)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:13 PM

113. I would have been terribly amused

with Mittens and Queen Ann showing up to the White House November 7th with their suitcases.

"What do you mean he's got till the 20th of January to move out? Evict him!"

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:09 AM

17. What the hell

is this op about? Not cussing at you, and I realize you're being sarcastic, but . Are you looking for an argument? If so, why would you?

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Response to tblue (Reply #17)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:13 AM

20. Am I looking for an argument?

Why, no. If I was looking for an argument, I'd simply say something outrageous like "I trust Obama to make good decisions and to work hard to advance the interests of ordinary Americans."

But that kind of thing would merely be inflammatory.

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Response to tblue (Reply #17)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:41 AM

36. There's been several of these types of posts and it's so childish imo.

Apparently if anyone expresses any concern about the future and what Obama may or may not do they are not supposed to do that or those who insist on making this an us vs. them message board will post something like this. Then all the others with the same mentality come along and rec it and cheer it on.

You'd think there was no reason for anyone to be nervous about any future negotiations that will occur between PBO and the Rs.

Geez. So juvenile

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Response to cui bono (Reply #36)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 06:18 AM

54. Seems Like The Pot Calling The Kettle Black

Just saying.

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Response to cui bono (Reply #36)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:37 AM

61. With that, you've committed to being nervous about the future

For all time. So you don't know what it is to hope? What would it take? Probably a government you'll never see in your lifetime.

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