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Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:27 PM

Anderson Cooper confronts John McCain about his Rice hypocrisy

It's not hard hitting journalism, but Anderson had John McCain on his show. He showed clips of McCain endorsing Condi Rice.
John McCain defends himself saying, "Four Americans died in Benghazi".
Anderson replies, "But thousands died in Iraq".
McCain defends himself with mumble-jumble.

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Reply Anderson Cooper confronts John McCain about his Rice hypocrisy (Original post)
LeftInTX Nov 2012 OP
Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #1
Dawson Leery Nov 2012 #2
dchill Nov 2012 #3
BouzoukiKing Nov 2012 #17
Jack Sprat Nov 2012 #21
BouzoukiKing Nov 2012 #23
MADem Nov 2012 #25
BouzoukiKing Nov 2012 #26
MADem Nov 2012 #29
Wounded Bear Nov 2012 #4
Blue4Texas Nov 2012 #5
USMCMustang Nov 2012 #13
dem4ward Nov 2012 #6
loyalsister Nov 2012 #7
sheshe2 Nov 2012 #8
SoapBox Nov 2012 #22
barbtries Nov 2012 #9
Ellipsis Nov 2012 #10
go west young man Nov 2012 #15
The Wizard Nov 2012 #11
Firebrand Gary Nov 2012 #12
NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #14
FreeBC Nov 2012 #16
gateley Nov 2012 #18
Cha Nov 2012 #19
Dems50State Nov 2012 #20
dennis4868 Nov 2012 #24
Ratty Nov 2012 #27
Filibuster Harry Nov 2012 #28

Response to LeftInTX (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:28 PM

1. Excellente! nt

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Response to LeftInTX (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:30 PM

2. John McCain: Bitter, Petty, and UNFIT FOR COMMAND.

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Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:38 PM

3. +1, +1000

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Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:36 AM

17. Unfit to fly, too.

The only aviator in U.S. Naval history to lose five aircraft and still retain his flight status. Of course, his daddy might have had something to do with that...

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Response to BouzoukiKing (Reply #17)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:56 AM

21. Five?

 

He must have bailed out every time a light came on in the cockpit.

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Response to Jack Sprat (Reply #21)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:07 AM

23. Well, in fairness, the one on his carrier...

...was not in the air at the time it was destroyed. And it is now clearly impossible to objectively ascertain what amount of fault then-Commander McCain may have had in that. Theories - from those who were there willing to talk about it - range from a childish afterburner prank that almost caused the carrier to sink, to great heroism in the face of an insane inferno with causes completely unrelated to his actions. Who knows? Only McCain knows.

But yeah - I don't believe there's ever been a Naval aviator who lost even two aircraft unrelated to enemy fire, and kept valid flight credentials.

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Response to BouzoukiKing (Reply #17)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:22 AM

25. I thought it was three--one in training, which should have washed him out into a SWO job,

once on the Forest Fire (aka Forrestal) which was a horrible fire at sea that is still shown to new recruits as a cautionary tale regarding what can go wrong and the right/wrong way to fight fires underway, and the third time was when he became a guest of the North Vietnamese.

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Response to MADem (Reply #25)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:36 AM

26. There's some dispute about that...

...I'll confess. One wonders why, and from what direction the disputes arise.

But, from Wikipedia:

"...during the early-to-mid 1960s, the planes he was flying crashed twice and once collided with power lines..."

And he went through the Forest Fire. And was shot down. That's five.

He was a lousy pilot. Or perhaps unlucky. In the military however - especially during wartime - there's no appreciable difference between the two. Results are all that matter.

But really - I don't think that after the first three (the power-line incident is another with conflicting reports... was he buzzing for benefit of companionship? or...? was the aircraft destroyed? or...?) he really should have been in the air. The first two, actually.

YMMV

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Response to BouzoukiKing (Reply #26)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:16 PM

29. No--no dispute--you're quite right. I don't know how I missed these earlier

tales during the last election; perhaps because there was so much Palin fodder about. Those "pre-Forest Fire" accidents, well, two of them, anyway, are news to me!

This article goes into detail: http://articles.latimes.com/print/2008/oct/06/nation/na-aviator6

McCain The Petulant Bully is not unknown to me--he had a somewhat abrasive and abrupt personality on a good day, before he decided he wanted to be the President. I'm guessing that hasn't improved over the years!

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Response to LeftInTX (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:40 PM

4. Condi Rice was head of the Nat'l Security Council on 9/11...3000 dead...

They made her SoS after the biggest fuckup in American history. Nobody seems to remember this.

I hate this shit!

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:49 PM

5. Anderson Cooper did, that's a start

Get it out there, besides there's nothing out there, our Rice is Ambassador to UN hardly the Nat'l Security Council, but yes, I hate their shit (best word) too

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:47 PM

13. Some of Us Do

 

They will continue to bet on the short attention span.

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Response to LeftInTX (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:51 PM

6. And whistling between his crooked teeth

 

he uttered that there is a difference between then and now. I'm like, hell ya there's a difference. Your talking outta yer ass this time!

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Response to LeftInTX (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:07 PM

7. Anderson Cooper does a pretty good job

He pushes everyone so I get annoyed when he comes down on my people, but I think he's pretty fair.

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Response to LeftInTX (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:10 PM

8. McCain is an Asshole n/t

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:57 AM

22. Ditto...

asshole.

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Response to LeftInTX (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:11 PM

9. not to mention fucking 911!

in republic land you drop the ball that BAD as national security adviser and you get a promotion to SOS. aargh

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Response to Ellipsis (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:26 AM

15. Wow. That vid says it all.

McCain seemed like a senile old man who was just trumpeting talking points. When he was backed into a corner he just got stubborn and stumbled over his words. Apparently the "Maverick" isn't very bright.

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Response to LeftInTX (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:35 PM

12. CNN needs to go after this with full throated to attempt to earn ANY of my respect back!

The Gulf Oil spill was the last time I watched anything on that network, in my opinion they revealed themselves to be about ratings rather than honesty.

Hopefully they can start to right the ship and calling GOP bullshit on their treatment of Susan Rice is a good start!

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Response to LeftInTX (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:48 PM

14. "But thousands died in Iraq" - exactly.

These people are up in arms over 3-4 people dead, but saw nothing wrong with hundreds of thousands being killed in a war that was launched on a blatant lie?

Really?

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Response to LeftInTX (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:27 AM

16. A battle against an obviously qualified woman of color

 

That should turn things around for the republicans!!!

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Response to LeftInTX (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:40 AM

18. Good on you, Anderson!

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Response to LeftInTX (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:48 AM

19. Good For Cooper! Thanks LeftInTX

McCain needs to go down on the junkpile of hypocritical whiny ass history

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Response to LeftInTX (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:48 AM

20. I was proud of Obama during the Press conf on this

 

He called them out by name which is why I was proud Obama did not back down one bit.

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Response to LeftInTX (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:12 AM

24. Anderson

Did an okay job could have done much better. He could have brought up Condi's 911 mushroom cloud comment to congress. Anderson could have played the tape of what Susan Rice actually said on MTP - that it appears based on the intelligence that it was a spontaneous protest and a militant group took advantage of that. Anderson could have said that Susan Rice was only telling reporters what the CIA told her. So he did okay but could have really let McCain have it if he provided more facts.

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Response to LeftInTX (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:38 AM

27. There was a time when McCain seemed like a reasonable republican

I didn't agree with his positions but he never seemed rabid about them. He's really gone off the deep end since 2004. I think his bitter all-consuming hatred of "that one" pushed him over the edge.

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Response to LeftInTX (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:54 AM

28. partisan crap Magoo. And you know it.

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