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Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:06 PM

Paula Broadwell warned Gen. Allen and other generals against "seductress" Jill Kelley

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Among the hundreds of emails exchanged between Allen and Kelly - Orr reports that investigators are focusing on one from several months ago. In it, Allen told Kelley he'd just received an anonymous email warning him to stay away from her.

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Sources say that the anonymous email came from Broadwell, Petraeus' mistress, who allegedly warned Gen. Allen that Kelley was "a seductress."

Broadwell allegedly sent similar warnings to other military officers at the U.S. Central Command, located near Kelley's Tampa home.



http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505266_162-57549505/sources-paula-broadwell-warned-gen-allen-against-seductress-jill-kelley/



That is a lot of nerve for one seductress to blow the whistle on another.

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Reply Paula Broadwell warned Gen. Allen and other generals against "seductress" Jill Kelley (Original post)
snagglepuss Nov 2012 OP
livetohike Nov 2012 #1
Liberal_in_LA Nov 2012 #5
sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #7
Liberal_in_LA Nov 2012 #8
riverwalker Nov 2012 #12
LisaL Nov 2012 #20
sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #23
Generic Other Nov 2012 #21
Anthony McCarthy Nov 2012 #2
sandyshoes17 Nov 2012 #3
riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #4
sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #6
snagglepuss Nov 2012 #9
sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #11
amandabeech Nov 2012 #14
sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #19
amandabeech Nov 2012 #24
sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #27
flamingdem Nov 2012 #30
riverwalker Nov 2012 #13
sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #22
aletier_v Nov 2012 #25
sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #28
flamingdem Nov 2012 #31
snagglepuss Nov 2012 #34
aletier_v Nov 2012 #32
flamingdem Nov 2012 #35
Raine Nov 2012 #15
BeyondGeography Nov 2012 #10
aletier_v Nov 2012 #16
GObamaGO Nov 2012 #17
Corgigal Nov 2012 #18
FSogol Nov 2012 #26
LisaL Nov 2012 #29
hifiguy Nov 2012 #33

Response to snagglepuss (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:12 PM

1. I'll bet the Lifetime Movie Network is writing the script already

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Response to livetohike (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:15 PM

5. lol. Paula is a Harvard, Westpoint grad, was colonel, yet she's behaving like a teen with a crush

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:20 PM

7. Maybe not. Maybe she really knew something about those women and was trying to warn

people.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:24 PM

8. Maybe but her own affair with the General damages her credibility

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:40 PM

12. I think so too n/t

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:13 PM

20. Sounds like she should have been warning Petraeus about herself.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:25 PM

23. That depends. Two gung ho military types, pro everything USA, having an affair is not

necessarily a threat to security. But two women whose credentials for having the kind of access they had, seem to be nothing more than the fact that they were attractive is entirely different.

They had no military or political connections that we know of, yet managed to insinuate themselves deep into the Military and Intel community. Maybe Broadwell suspected them of not being what they seemed to be and knowing the weaknesses of some of the Generals, having first hand experience with them, she may have been trying to prevent them being used by women as clever and 'seductive' as she was, but with different motives?

May be why all of her warnings were made anonymously as far as I can tell. She had basically destroyed her own credibility re the 'seductress' claim. That doesn't mean she didn't have serious reasons for concern.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:18 PM

21. The only person missing is the crazy crosscountry diaper wearing astronaut

I am starting to think these are what our 19th century counterparts would have labeled "camp followers."

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Response to snagglepuss (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:13 PM

2. She really used the word "seductress"?

 

Pretty cheeky for a "the other woman" to call someone else a "seductress".

My theory is that Holly Petraeus gave lover boy an ultimatum that he retire or else. She must be so tired of this shit.

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Response to snagglepuss (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:14 PM

3. Makes sense

This a.m. they were saying her e-mail name was kellypatrol, and they still sat there and giggled but didn't connect any dots.

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Response to snagglepuss (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:15 PM

4. Anyone want to bet that Jill Kelley is operating as a "madame"? Running a call girl (boy?) svc? nt

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Response to snagglepuss (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:18 PM

6. There may be more to that than it appears to be. Who are those women?

How did they gain the kind of access they had to top Military Generals and the Intelligence community? Who helped them initially to gain that kind of access? They were not military, not intelligence that we know of, just ordinary women yet at a time when our Government told us they had to spy on every American for 'security' reasons, these two twenty somethings, which they were when they first arrived in Tampa, had free access to the top Brass in the military.

Jill Kelley moved to Tampa in 2001. How did she get from being the wife of a doctor to being a confidante of Generals especially when every other American in her position was considered a possible security risk and treated that way?

Something is missing about those women. Someone had to give them access. Try inviting a top General to your house for dinner out of the blue and see what happens. At the very least you would be ignored, at worst you would be on a no fly list.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:31 PM

9. I think you're spot on to be suspicious of these two however there are

questions about Petreus odd behavior that indicate a lack of judgement, for instance Broadwell accuses Kelley in an email of inappropriately touching Petreus in an intimate manner under a table. Did Petreus tell her this? If not him who? If he did was he trying to make her jealous?

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Response to snagglepuss (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:46 PM

11. Maybe she knew his weaknesses, but was also concerned about the country.

She certainly damaged her own credibility, if that should turn out to be the case, by having an affair with him herself.

I just can't understand the access those other two had. Eg, I worked for a top Dem Fundraiser, very well known in the Dem Party. They hosted dinner parties etc in order to help Dems get elected and often had many top Dems at their home. But it was for a purpose, not just to socialize, and she and her husband have a long, long history with the Dem Party and probably the Repub party and with the Secret Svc who knew them very well.

But Jill Kelley's parties were not fundraisers, they were social events which seemed to have no other purpose. When she first arrived in Tampa she was in her twenties. You don't go from being an ordinary civilian/citizen to having the access she had without knowing someone. I would love to know who introduced them into those circles and vouched for them.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:51 PM

14. I'm with you Sabrina.

The lives of these two in Tampa just don't add up.

Also, the sister, Natalie, was married to a Bush appointee who was in Iraq early looking for deals, as far as I can tell.

Natalie also received a $300,000 loan from a Rhode Island Dem fundraiser who worked for Kerry, I think.

Both twins are now deeply, deeply in debt.

It just doesn't add up.

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Response to amandabeech (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:11 PM

19. What is needed is a real investigative journalist to try to find out who introduced Jill Kelley into

that most protected circle. Her attitude that she has a right to be protected from the press leads me to believe that someone gave her that impression. But whoever they are and whatever their purpose was, it looks like these revelations were not expected. And now it looks like she, Jill Kelley is being tossed aside. I hope she doesn't threaten to reveal anything for her own sake.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #19)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:27 PM

24. Who's the guy from Rolling Stone? Is it Taibbi?

I just can't get the name to pop into my pre-senile brain. No doubt it will come up tomorrow morning.

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Response to amandabeech (Reply #24)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:26 PM

27. Matt Taibbi, or Jeremy Scahill who is very good on foreign policy. The one who probably

would have the most inside sources would be Sy Hersch. I've been following Jeremy Scahill on Twitter but he seems as puzzled as everyone else, so far.

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Response to snagglepuss (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:46 PM

30. Yes, and lack of judgement by Allen who is about to be promoted!

They're going to let it go with him and I bet he stays in touch with Jill, dumbazz

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:42 PM

13. because of Natalie's now ex-husband, that's how

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Response to riverwalker (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:20 PM

22. Very interesting. Do you know the timeline of when Jill Kelley began her social gatherings

at her home? As I recall, but will have to check back, she and her husband were friends of Gen. Allen's for several years. I guess my question is, when did the sister marry this Defense Contractor guy. Their son is 4 years old, they separated after one year of marriage and she took custody of the baby. So it sounds like they married only about 5 years ago. And Jill seems to have been friends with Gen. Allen for a year or two before that, but don't take my word for it, I'm just going by memory.

What we need is a timeline. Another point, if Natalie was married to a Right Wing War Profiteer, how on earth did she get involved with a Dem Fundraiser? And we know she wrote letters to her ex using her connections to Dems to ask his permission to bring her son 'back' to Sen Whitehouse's place where he supposedly had such a 'great time' last summer.

So basically she goes from a Right Wing War Profiteer to a big Dem Fundraiser.

Later when I have more time, I am going to try to do a timeline of what we know. Thanks for that link, it is very interesting.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:47 PM

25. "she goes from a Right Wing War Profiteer to a big Dem Fundraiser"

She's just a money-seeking missile, political ideology doesn't matter.

I sure got that impression from the high-school days article.

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #25)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:29 PM

28. Maybe, maybe not. Top Generals and Intelligence people don't generally

exchange thousands of emails with 'money seeking missiles'. From what we know, Gen. Allen was very close to Jill Kelley and even from the war zone, was in touch with her through emails. Sorry, I think there is much more to it than that unless our top Generals and Intel people are the stupidest people on earth.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #28)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:49 PM

31. Just want to add that Jill was in everyone's business and that benefits Allen

who is out in the middle of nowhere, partially that he's homesick, partially he wants to keep an eye on things for entertainment and control purposes.

Both Generals seem to like to mess with the Wild Side. We haven't seen a photo of Allen's wife have we? She must "involved" in some way herself.

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #31)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 06:30 PM

34. Allen's wife for what it's worth looks almost identical to Holly Petreus.

Kelley strikes me as someone who is a hub of gossip. I once had a dear friend who was the male counterpart of Kelley. He was extremely sexual and people told him all sorts of extemely personal and confidential information. Being involved in interior design he had some mega-rich clients and for some reason he engendered incredible trust. I think people recognize people who are extremely good at "gosssip" so they jump on board, knowing that if they drop a few juicy details about themselves they'll be privvy to a lot of information so I think you are right on the mark about Allen wanting to keep an eye on things.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #28)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:51 PM

32. they've had twenty-plus years to hone their man-trapping skills :0

http://www.tampabay.com/news/military/macdill/jill-kelley-outraged-other-military-liaisons-with-her-flirty-ways/1261619

"Mark Rosenthal said he wasn't surprised to read news reports that a local FBI agent had become obsessed with the case.

"They're both pretty women, they're both really revealing, and they know how to talk to men," he said. "They can bring a man off-guard."


This story was interesting and convoluted
but now it's starting to get sad. The twins
have been play-acting for years and now the curtain draws to a close.

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #32)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 06:59 PM

35. They had a good run

lots of chances to bat the ball

Next victim! Probably an unsuspecting dentist or plastic surgeon.

Hmm this reminds me of that plastic surgery tv show that was out of Miami. Forget the name.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:56 PM

15. THAT is what I would like to know, it's infuriating that these people have that kind of access. nt

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Response to snagglepuss (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:40 PM

10. Meow mix

Low rent meow mix.

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Response to snagglepuss (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:56 PM

16. It takes one to know one :)

It's kind of a cool take, though.

So she didn't flip out from insane jealously,
not if she was contacting other officers.

Now I want to know why her driver's license showed up in a park.

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Response to snagglepuss (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:57 PM

17. Sounds like they were all trying to "collect them all"

Who got the set of Generals first?

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Response to snagglepuss (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:01 PM

18. US Centcom

is now your average local middle school. If I had a child serving in the army forces over in the middle eastern theater right now I would be both furious and worried. Good god, everyone should lose their job because of their judgment alone. Anything else is gravy.

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Response to snagglepuss (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:51 PM

26. Eliminate the competition!

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Response to FSogol (Reply #26)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:32 PM

29. Sure sounds like it to me.

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Response to snagglepuss (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:45 AM

33. This actually makes a marginal amount of sense.

Perhaps she knew something about these extremely oddly connected Evil Twins. There is some very fkin' weird stuff going on here.

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