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Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:50 AM

If you think you've seen everything, you haven't seen this. Oy.

After absorbing the reality of defeat at the polls all across the country in an election that saw gains on the state and federal level for Democrats, expanded the rights of LGBT Americans, defended the rights of women, and showed a clear repudiation of the GOP's platform, Republicans got together and decided they needed to do things differently.

...said no one ever.

9 lawmakers want to charge U.S. officials who implement Obamacare
By Patrick Marley of the Journal Sentinel

Madison - As Gov. Scott Walker contemplates whether to create a state health care exchange under Obamacare, he will have to contend in the coming legislative session with nine lawmakers who have said they back a bill to arrest any federal officials who try to implement the health care law.

Eight of the nine Republicans also have gone on record saying they also want to write a law that would see airport screeners charged with sexual assault if they conduct overly invasive pat-downs of passengers going through security.

All nine also told a tea party-aligned group they backed passing so-called "right-to-work" legislation; allowing people to carry guns without having to get permits from the state; allowing people to buy raw, or unpasteurized, milk; and blocking state funding for the federal Real ID law that requires states to develop more secure driver's licenses.

But their stance on the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, could cause the most fireworks in the upcoming session. Walker must decide by Friday whether the state will create a health care exchange under the health care law or leave those duties to President Barack Obama's administration.

The rest: http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/nine-lawmakers-back-charging-federal-officials-who-implement-obamacare-here-n47kl10-179180251.html

...but it's the South that's crazy, right?

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Reply If you think you've seen everything, you haven't seen this. Oy. (Original post)
WilliamPitt Nov 2012 OP
JaneyVee Nov 2012 #1
Warpy Nov 2012 #33
seabeyond Nov 2012 #2
txdemsftw Nov 2012 #6
MightyMopar Nov 2012 #17
seabeyond Nov 2012 #18
Geoff R. Casavant Nov 2012 #21
kenfrequed Nov 2012 #36
seabeyond Nov 2012 #39
cordelia Nov 2012 #41
seabeyond Nov 2012 #43
kenfrequed Nov 2012 #45
seabeyond Nov 2012 #46
cordelia Nov 2012 #29
calimary Nov 2012 #37
Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #22
Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #3
Stargazer09 Nov 2012 #4
thecrow Nov 2012 #34
pipewrench Nov 2012 #5
calimary Nov 2012 #38
lumpy Nov 2012 #7
BlueJazz Nov 2012 #8
californiamike49 Nov 2012 #24
calimary Nov 2012 #35
BlueJazz Nov 2012 #47
Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #50
Major Hogwash Nov 2012 #9
WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #11
joesdaughter Nov 2012 #44
dragonlady Nov 2012 #48
Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #52
mysuzuki2 Nov 2012 #10
hifiguy Nov 2012 #12
santamargarita Nov 2012 #13
ejbr Nov 2012 #14
EC Nov 2012 #15
calimary Nov 2012 #40
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #16
drm604 Nov 2012 #19
catbyte Nov 2012 #20
Ellipsis Nov 2012 #23
struggle4progress Nov 2012 #25
marble falls Nov 2012 #26
savannah43 Nov 2012 #31
marble falls Nov 2012 #42
Kablooie Nov 2012 #27
1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #28
Ishoutandscream2 Nov 2012 #30
berni_mccoy Nov 2012 #32
Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #54
LiberalEsto Nov 2012 #49
libodem Nov 2012 #51
ecstatic Nov 2012 #53
GitRDun Nov 2012 #55

Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:51 AM

1. This is what a party in its final death throes looks like.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:27 PM

33. I think so, too

They've lost much of the center and all they have left are extremists of various types, from rigid authoritarians to bigots to religious crazies to Ayn Randorrhoids, to that cadre of billionaires headed by the Koch brothers and who want to abolish all taxes on the richest and recreate Dickensian conditions for the rest of us.

Those various factions are becoming increasingly at odds within the party and there's a war going on in the upper reaches as blaming reaches a fever pitch after this loss.

Losing this election shook that party to its rotten core since Citizens United had given them every advantage and reducing suffrage should have pushed them over the top. Since it didn't, it was a repudiation of every top-down election strategy they have held dear for decades.

They're giving the distinct impression of a party ready to fall apart at the seams, sputtering on as a regional party but no longer fielding national candidates.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:54 AM

2. that is the thing. you are right on. the racial hate groups are not in the majority in the south

they are in calif and northern states. bigotry is across the nation.

we have asshole governors like these in states that are not the south.

voter suppression was happening in states that were not the south.

i agree with your point.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:07 AM

6. This^^

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:21 AM

17. When the south elects a Lesbian senator get back to me.

 

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Response to MightyMopar (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:22 AM

18. we have a gay woman as mayor in austin i believe. you? nt

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:39 AM

21. One in Houston too.

And her sexuality has been an issue exactly zero times in her campaigns.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:29 PM

36. Uhm

I think they were requesting a statewide office.

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Response to kenfrequed (Reply #36)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:33 PM

39. so? does it matter? why would it matter? all states then, who does not fit the requirement,

that EXACT requirement, then is a fail?

bullshit.

the point was made. that simple.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #39)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:36 PM

41. Yep. Absolutely correct.

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Response to cordelia (Reply #41)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:50 PM

43. i think he is talking about the FIRST openly gay woman senator in HISTORY. 49 states fail his test.

amazing.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #39)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:39 PM

45. I will elaborate

It isn't so difficult to elect gay and lesbian politicians to local offices in metro areas. I think tossing that out in response to the point about Wisconsin having an openly lesbian senator is a bit off.

I will agree that it is deeply troubling that Wisconsin is so badly jerrymandered that they have are having a teahaddist legislative revolt.

I disagree with the tone of the original point about somehow excusing the deep red nature of the south by tossing the mixed nature of a purple state like Wisconsin. The tone of the OP is a bit absurd and that is part of what the person responding with 'call us when you elect a gay/lesbian senator' was responding to.

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Response to kenfrequed (Reply #45)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:03 PM

46. i think holding the standard of one openly gay woman as senator to be indicative of a win in an

argument is extreme and ridiculous.

and factually, you can not argue what i posted in my original post. which is what the declaration came from

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Response to MightyMopar (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:05 PM

29. Had a lesbian mayor in my small rural

Georgia town. In the 1970s.

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Response to MightyMopar (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:30 PM

37. Welcome to DU, MightyMopar!

Glad you're here. We need you! Slowly but surely, we're getting there! Tammy Baldwin (although not elected in the South) is America's first openly-gay senator if I'm not mistaken. So there's a start. Let's make sure we don't lose any of the ground we gained last Tuesday!

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:42 AM

22. Wherever the district is rural and majority White in this nation, Teabaggery can flourish.

Suburbs succumb to this phenemenon, too, matters not North or South, dumbasses electing dumbasses.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:58 AM

3. Yeah, Will, we're all pretty nuts out here.

Personally, I attribute it to the Icehead Phenomenon.

Every winter the outer surfaces of our brains freeze over & cerebral cortexes (cortices?), having evolved in warmer climes, were never designed to handle the ice damage. How else can you explain people both voting Walker in and then failing to recall him?

In fact, the brain freeze is the only reason there are any year-round inhabitants in these parts. The freeze-up is usually complete by early December, so none of us have the neural equipment to notice much of anything until our brains start thawing in late March.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:04 AM

4. There are crazy people everywhere

Most of the time, you just don't see them.

These people have just tattooed a great big L on their foreheads.

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Response to Stargazer09 (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:27 PM

34. Or the Rmoney campaign symbol...

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:05 AM

5. Delusion 101

Republicans are still in denial

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Response to pipewrench (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:33 PM

38. Welcome to DU, pipewrench! They sure are.

So okay then! Let them stay on the road to the dead end if they simply must. Happy you're here. We have to make sure they STAY on that road if they're not gonna start opening their eyes and their minds. Better to see most of these spoiled brat-children hosed outta there so they can be replaced, hopefully, by more reasonable adults. Hopefully, as joe walsh goes, so go the teabaggers!

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:11 AM

7. The new GOP 'push' is to try erradicate any regulation/legislation in the name of

"freedom" in the attempt to make a point. Whether or not it is in the best interest of US citizens; like airport screening, health care (including raw milk availability), no gun regulation, no regulating driver ID, and God knows what else. Bad enough that they are attacking the US government by refusing to comply with government mandates. This is called rebellion.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:20 AM

8. In other news: Scientists have found that 9 lawmakers from Wisconsin are...

...primed to be called "The dumbest mothers-fuckers on the planet"

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Response to BlueJazz (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:49 AM

24. Amen, and I'll bet you ...

... all nine of them are dittoheads.

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Response to californiamike49 (Reply #24)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:28 PM

35. Welcome to DU, californiamike49!

Glad to have you with us! Fellow Californian here! My guess is you're spot-on. That's where many of these knuckledraggers get their ideas because sometimes they DO have to be driving around with their car radios keeping them company, and can't always be sitting in front of their Pox Noise boxes 24/7.

Let's all make sure that the gains we made, ACROSS THE BOARD last week, are protected and supported, and BUILT UPON!!!!!! Let's houseclean the House in 2014!

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Response to californiamike49 (Reply #24)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:23 PM

47. Welcome to DU !

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Response to californiamike49 (Reply #24)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:04 PM

50. Dittohead teabaggers with a Koch problem.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:22 AM

9. Will, at the RNC this year, Idaho's Governor Butch Otter cast all of the votes for Romney . .

. . adding proudly that Idaho was the 1st state in the nation to sue the federal government over the ACA.

Governor Otter was so sure that the ACA would be ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court that he told the Republican leaders of the state legislature not to bother with setting up an insurance exchange because it wouldn't be needed.

After the Supreme Court ruled that the ACA was indeed constitutional at the end of their session, Otter told the legislature's Republican leaders to hold off on setting up an insurance exchange because he was sure that Romney would be elected President, and that he would preclude enacting the full provisions of the ACA into law while working to repeal the ones that were already active.

Now Governor Otter and the Republican leaders of the state legislature are waiting to see if they should call an emergency session of the legislature to set up an exchange, or if they should just wait until January when they reconvene.

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Response to Major Hogwash (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:58 AM

11. Oy oy oy.

The stupid, it burns.

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Response to Major Hogwash (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:53 PM

44. $$$

How much did all of this cost the good people of Idaho ? How much does all of this spiteful obstruction cost all tax payers? The Speaker of the House has let symbolic repeals of ACA hit the floor over 30 times. How much does it cost ?

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Response to Major Hogwash (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:27 PM

48. Scott Walker followed the same path on the ACA

He also gave back the $38 million of federal money that would have paid for the work of setting up the exchange.

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Response to Major Hogwash (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:06 PM

52. Next they're gonna hold off a little while

waiting for the impeachment proceedings.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:32 AM

10. Go ahead. We'll see how it works out for them

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:01 AM

12. The Stupid Belt is not geographically contiguous.

It's more prominent in some areas, but concrete-headed dumbassery can be found in every state in the union with the possible exception of Vermont.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:03 AM

13. They double down on failure.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:06 AM

14. Well...that wasnt the onion n/t

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:11 AM

15. I know

when I saw this in the local paper this morning I thought to myself "I think it'd be better for the feds to set up the insurance exchange" . I feel that the way our state has become all they will offer is shitty insurance, so I'd rather let the feds do it. I DON'T TRUST THE STATE POLITICIANS.

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Response to EC (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:35 PM

40. Good point. This should be the same for everyone across all state lines.

I don't trust the state politicians either, especially those from Dumbfuckistan.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:12 AM

16. Well, you gotta admit

He is still waiting for delivery of the SCOTUS news by horse and buggy, that has to be it.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:34 AM

19. If they only have 9 votes for this, they can't pass it anyway.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:37 AM

20. In the immortal words of Bugs Bunny, "What a maroon..."

"Rep. Chris Kapenga (R-Delafield) is one of the nine from Wisconsin who told the Campaign for Liberty he would back legislation to declare Obamacare illegal and allow police to arrest federal officials who take steps to implement it in Wisconsin. He said he believes the health care law is unconstitutional, despite the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling that it passes constitutional muster.

'Just because Obama was re-elected does not mean he's above the constitution,' Kapenga said."

Um, psssssssst, Chris....come here...a little closer...that's close enough. A LAW IS CONSTITUTIONAL IF THE SUPREME COURT RULES THAT IT'S CONSTITUTIONAL, YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!! JUST WHAT ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH DID YOU THINK THAT WHOLE SUPREME COURT CASE WAS ABOUT/? JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE A LAW DOESN'T MAKE IT UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

Christ on a cracker. How does that idiot manage to get to work every day and not get lost?!?

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/nine-lawmakers-back-charging-federal-officials-who-implement-obamacare-here-n47kl10-179180251.html

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:43 AM

23. ...there's something in the water.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:57 AM

25. "They're Coming to Take Me Away Hahaaa!"

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:03 PM

26. They are right about this:they also want to write a law that would see airport screeners charged ...

with sexual assault if they conduct overly invasive pat-downs of passengers going through security.

Otherwise they're full of it.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #26)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:17 PM

31. I think their strategy, and I use that term loosley, is to appeal

to as many groups as possible. Thus the raw milk demand from them. Rove Lite. My first laugh of the day.

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Response to savannah43 (Reply #31)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:45 PM

42. I think you're right. Throw a handfull at the wall and see what sticks.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:03 PM

27. "Just because Obama was re-elected does not mean he's above the constitution," Kapenga said.

But because they were elected they have the right to re-write the Federal Constitution any way they like.

Sheesh.
And we thought in-breeding of Royals created insane leaders.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:05 PM

28. I suspect ...

this group of Nine are listeners of the garrett lewis Show. He had some guy on, the other day, from the Cato Institute who spent his time advocating the illegality of ObamaCare.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:14 PM

30. Do as President Jackson would do

If they attempt this, hang them. Radical, I know, but I'm sick of all of this treasonous talk.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:26 PM

32. Why are so many GOP politicians certifiably FUCKED in the head?

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Response to berni_mccoy (Reply #32)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:06 PM

54. Kinda like asking why there are so many lunatics on the psych ward.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:07 PM

49. Arrest them on what grounds?

Failure to teabag?

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:06 PM

51. They are trying to turn it into Idaho

We have been right to work for years. They went after the teachers union hard this election. Most of ALEC went down here with out a fight.

Just now we have a state bill trying to become law, to protect gay folks right to housing and freedom from discrimination at work. We are a very backward red state. I hope it will pass.

Where I live you can still be fired if you are outed at work. Land lords can refuse gay tenents a place to live.

No wonder my gay nieces and nephew fled back to CA, after spending the summer here.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:06 PM

53. omg. they really do want a civil war! nt

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:16 PM

55. I say let them go ahead and pass one of these laws!

Cheers to them

Soon enough some federal officials will show up...go ahead and arrest them!

Then we can have a highly publicized trial where the courts explain why these people are absolute fools for passing laws like that! That surprise will be followed by a voter huddle

Then they are outta there!

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