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Reply Message hidden by jury decision. (Original post)
The Doctor. Nov 2012 OP
quinnox Nov 2012 #1
The Doctor. Nov 2012 #4
marions ghost Nov 2012 #15
quinnox Nov 2012 #28
marions ghost Nov 2012 #37
The Doctor. Nov 2012 #2
BanTheGOP Nov 2012 #3
The Doctor. Nov 2012 #11
seabeyond Nov 2012 #42
cali Nov 2012 #5
The Doctor. Nov 2012 #12
dae Nov 2012 #13
brewens Nov 2012 #6
Laurian Nov 2012 #7
seabeyond Nov 2012 #8
marions ghost Nov 2012 #25
spanone Nov 2012 #9
WolverineDG Nov 2012 #10
The Doctor. Nov 2012 #16
ceile Nov 2012 #17
Paladin Nov 2012 #24
LanternWaste Nov 2012 #14
The Doctor. Nov 2012 #19
LanternWaste Nov 2012 #26
Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #18
The Doctor. Nov 2012 #23
Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #27
Paladin Nov 2012 #20
WI_DEM Nov 2012 #21
WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #22
The Doctor. Nov 2012 #31
WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #35
w8liftinglady Nov 2012 #29
WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #32
Ganja Ninja Nov 2012 #33
peace13 Nov 2012 #41
txdemsftw Nov 2012 #30
The Doctor. Nov 2012 #36
txdemsftw Nov 2012 #38
OKNancy Nov 2012 #34
aikoaiko Nov 2012 #39
Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2012 #40

Response to The Doctor. (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:06 AM

1. K&R

 

I'm getting tired of this, and what in the hell do they expect, that the backwards ass southerners who are having a meltdown over the election, who are talking about secessions, and being even more of a crazed lunatic and rabies-like insane than usual, what, we (meaning most DUers) aren't going to comment and condemn it? OF COURSE we aren't talking about the liberals who happen to live in red states, we are talking about those right wingnuts who all live in the damn South, and who are frothing at the mouth right now over this election result. I don't get this at all. You should only be offended if we were talking about you negatively, which we clearly aren't.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:10 AM

4. It's one of two things:

 


The victimhood complex, which I've seen way too many people deploy against DU over the years in order to garner cheap sympathy for a non-plight they've not-suffered here.

And trolling for the purpose of convincing Red State DUers that DU is hostile to them.

Either way, it's utter fucking bullshit and should be stomped right the hell out whenever we see it.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:20 AM

15. Talk about the wingnuts in the North, Mid-west, West--OK?

--then you might have a point...

TIRED of the never-ending scapegoating of the South, esp on a Dem/Lib site. Nasty, negative & unproductive.

Intolerance and hypocrisy drips from these posts.

So go away with your pious disclaimers and your patronizing "you shoulds".

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Response to marions ghost (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:27 AM

28. Come on, you know as well as I do that there is a hell of a lot of good reasons

 

the South gets a lot of heat from many DUers. It's because of crazy shit like talking about seceding right now, and who is leading all this crap, Deep South states like Texas. What, are we supposed to ignore all the idiocy from the right wing cro-magnons down there? Pretend it doesn't exist? Come on. There have been a lot of fresh examples in the news stories coming in every day in the election aftermath, it is hard to ignore.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #28)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:35 AM

37. BS

Like I said--if you're not from Vermont, check out your own wingnuts.

Some of those Northern cro-magnons are just as scary. Lotsa seceders in Maine, PA, upstate NY, Ohio...

Guess what it's a national problem. But you'd rather target Southerners. Must be kinda bored today, huh?

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Response to The Doctor. (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:07 AM

2. No! Really!

 

Let's hear from the people whining about all this 'bashing' of them.

It's NOT HAPPENING.

Yes, DU makes fun of 'Red States' because of the stupid politicians and morons that MAKE those states 'Red'. NOT because of the Democrats and Liberals that live there.

Your effort are NOT in vain!

You are NOT persecuted here!

I'm sick and tired of reading all these divisive and BS threads claiming otherwise.

And YES, I can provide links to the bullshit I'm talking about.

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Response to The Doctor. (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:09 AM

3. Start providing the links, please N/T

 

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Response to BanTheGOP (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:17 AM

11. Unlike the temper-tantrum throwers, I can actually point to the bullshit.

 


Here's where one DUer claims that her efforts to influence her Red State neighbors were "shit on" by DU:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251200155

No examples, no links, not even an anecdote. Just a wild accusation that DUers "shit" on her efforts.

Absolute fucking garbage.

Now I know that your request was strictly for the purpose of getting a reason to alert on me for 'calling out' another DUer, but I don't give a rat's ass.

You go right ahead and do that so that six random people can see how full of shit those accusations are.

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Response to The Doctor. (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:38 AM

42. yes... people arguing your point are " temper-tantrum throwers". very mature.



that really wasnt about randomly insulting others. really. nah.

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Response to The Doctor. (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:11 AM

5. wow. what a thing to get so outraged and self-righteous about.

Not to mention this just looks like you're picking a petty fight.

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Response to cali (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:18 AM

12. The fight wasn't picked by me.

 


When people stop making bullshit claims about DU, I'll stop fighting back against them.

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Response to cali (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:18 AM

13. Must be having a rough morning.

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Response to The Doctor. (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:12 AM

6. I'll admit to making comments that might be offensive to southerners in general. Like

making fun of Haley Barbour. Saying I can never understand a word of his gibberish and that he sounds like a hawg shit in his mouth! No offense meant to and southern liberals of course. I always think those guy embellish the down home accent to play the rubes anyway.

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Response to The Doctor. (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:14 AM

7. I live in a very red state, and am never offended by characterization

of my state as backward thinking and racist, because its true. Because I live here, I know that there are truly good and decent people in the state who seek change.

I am frequently embarrassed by the political representation in my state that perpetuates the status quo by appealing to the fears and ignorance of many in the state who have never had the opportunity to know any other environment.

A double edged sword.....somewhat sympathetic to those who have never had an alternative experience to measure the origins and depth of their prejudices, yet distressed by the ensuing lack of progress.

I recognize my state for what it is and hope for better in the future, but I am not defined by where I live.

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Response to The Doctor. (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:15 AM

8. being a calif living in a state i dont particularly like, i know there have been too many times i

have had to come to the defense of texas for ridiculous comments made about this state (or the people), which i really resent.

and yes. there have been flat out call outs on southern living folks. that lumps all as a whole. that is offensive to those living in the south. not to mention a lot of rhetoric that only purpose is to insult.

you are wrong.

and no, i am not, cannot go searching for links, any more than you can prove your statement.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:25 AM

25. +++++ agree

The bashing is relentless. Especially after elections.

It's just shit-stirrin' nonsense by people who refuse to look at the makeup of their own state.

To these agitators: Unless you live in Vermont, STFU.

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Response to The Doctor. (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:16 AM

9. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Response to The Doctor. (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:16 AM

10. I guess you automatically block all the Texas threads, huh?

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Response to WolverineDG (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:20 AM

16. That was a pretty pointless comment.

 

Do you think you actually said something meaningful there?

You've made an attempt at 'irrelevant' and succeeded. Please re-read the actual point of the OP so you can make an informed comment.

Thanks.

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Response to WolverineDG (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:20 AM

17. +1

Seems there's a Texas bashing thread at least once a month.

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Response to ceile (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:24 AM

24. Try Once A DAY. (nt)

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Response to The Doctor. (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:19 AM

14. The one does not deny the other...

I've read posts limiting criticism to only republicans living in southern states, I've read posts inviting criticism to anyone who lives in southern states.

The one does not deny the other... and that you have not recognized it appears to be selective perception by you, rather than evidence of "rampant and artificial temper-tantrums designed to tear us apart."




However, I do understand that we often prefer to deny things that do not validate our own perceptions; and more often than not, refer to them viscerally and with emotion on our sleeves rather than engaging in actual discourse. And though that sentiment is "it's crap, crap, and more odious crap", I gather it's part and parcel of human nature.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:21 AM

19. Great, then you have links to the crap that these people are complaining about.

 


Where DUers bashed our Red State brethren without others shouting them down.

I'd tell you I'd wait, but I know damn well you don't have shit.

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Response to The Doctor. (Reply #19)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:25 AM

26. Again, I imagine we deny things which do not better validate our own personal opinions

Again, I imagine we deny things which do not better validate our own personal opinions. I invite you to do a search... which is precisely what I would have to do to pull up the threads I've both referenced and engaged in. Easy-peasy, chucky-cheesey...

However, as it seems your primary motivation is merely emotion at this time, might I suggest you simply cool down, do a search, and then allow yourself a wee bot more objectivity before you engage in more absolutism... just a suggestion is all.

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Response to The Doctor. (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:21 AM

18. Here's a link to a harassment of Red State DUers on DU:

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:24 AM

23. Wow.

 


'Insipid' doesn't even begin to describe that pathetic attempt at, what... Humor?

You just earned yourself a straight train to ignore.

Buh-bye.

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Response to The Doctor. (Reply #23)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:26 AM

27. Unfortunately I missed the straight train. Can I pick up the local instead?

Hello?


Hello?


Is there anybody out there?

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Response to The Doctor. (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:21 AM

20. Oh, Puh-leeeze.


You're kidding right? South-bashing on DU is a regular feature, and Texas-bashing is constant. And I will shut up about it when this regional prejudice is no longer tolerated, here. You want links? Link yourself up to the next two or three threads you see which deal with the South in general and Texas in particular. "Shit that simply isn't happening" my fifth-generation Texan, life-long liberal Democratic ASS........

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Response to The Doctor. (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:22 AM

21. If there are DUers from the south who post this stuff it is pretty small and not

worth having a thread or having a fit about.

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Response to The Doctor. (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:23 AM

22. I've seen a lot of it over the eleven years I've been here.

A lot of it.

I'm sensitive to it because half my family is from Alabama. My father, for one, has worked for the Democratic Party since before Bobby Kennedy died, and did so in Alabama.

Call me a liar.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:31 AM

31. Where?

 


DU is not friendly to our brothers and sisters in 'Red States'?

I won't call you a 'liar', but what I will call you is 'smarter than that', which is to say: "Smarter than to suggest that DU does not overwhelmingly sympathize with the plight of liberals and Democrats in deep red places.

My contention is VERY specific. So much so, that I've been typing rather than turning off the offensive '700 Club' which popped up on my TV 20 minutes ago.

Hold on....

Better.

You of all people should be able to recognize the methods of sowing divisiveness. DU is NOT a place where Liberals or Democrats are persecuted simply for living in a red state. Anyone who makes so many of those claims that they cannot back up are full of shit.

THAT is what I'm talking about.

If you really claim that DU facilitates and does not condemn such persecution of our brave brethren, then YES... you are a liar.

Period.

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Response to The Doctor. (Reply #31)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:33 AM

35. Post 29

If you can read all that and still cling to your thesis, then I'm pretty sure you're just out to stir shit up.

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Response to w8liftinglady (Reply #29)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:32 AM

32. Woop.

There it is.

The posts themselves are one thing. The rest of the comments are yet another.

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Response to w8liftinglady (Reply #29)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:32 AM

33. Don't forget to include this thread too.

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Response to w8liftinglady (Reply #29)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:38 AM

41. Most of those are over a year old and posted to the old site.

Do you have any recent concerns. With the new alert and jury system I don't understand why there are problems now.

I know there were scads of posts about stupid Ohioans during the election. I know there are stupid ones and can do nothing about it. I also know that I am not stupid so I don't take the comments seriously.

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Response to The Doctor. (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:31 AM

30. Hell,

I've only been here a short while and I've seen TONS of posts bashing the Southern states. And I'm not even talking about the posts/threads where the OP specifically mentioned ONLY the Republicans in those states, I'm talking about the ones where the states/entire regions are bashed as a whole.

I'm not going to make threads about it, but I sure as well will stick up for us good people in these states whenever I see this trash...and I don't care if that makes me 'unpopular' around here or not. I love my state and I'm not going anywhere.

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Response to txdemsftw (Reply #30)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:33 AM

36. Please read for context.

 


Yes, the southern states get bashed here NOT because of the Democrats that live there.

You know what? I'm sick of explaining what I've already explained. Please Re-read the OP again before commenting.

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Response to The Doctor. (Reply #36)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:37 AM

38. I'll comment when I feel like it..

and I did read your shitty post. You're not going to intimidate me because you make lame threads bashing other people and calling people liars. Make work on some, but not on me.

I am not looking to be 'popular' around here anyway.

Thanks.

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Response to The Doctor. (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:32 AM

34. I call bullshit on your bullshit

One poster in particular has a bug up his butt about Oklahoma. I have no idea what sparked it.
Read this thread and some of the comments
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021644954

A quick search also gives us this:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021660144
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101647368
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021700607

Now, you could say it isn't bashing the individual, but this kind of bashing sure doesn't bring unity.

My favorite: you need to move.
This one has to be the stupidest comments ever.

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Response to The Doctor. (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:38 AM

39. OK

I think the "let them secede" variety say fuck the south and all who live there.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1318152
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=40633
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1788647

And saying "Oh, these comments are not directed at blue Southern state residents" just rings hollow.

eta: I just noticed this is in GD and it should probably be in meta.


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Response to The Doctor. (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:38 AM

40. I hate the south...

but only because their damned footballs teams keep beating the Big Ten in bowl games.

Other than that, I can be pretty much live and let live...

Kidding about the whole "I hate the south" thing, by the way, especially now that we've got Urban Meyer above the Mason-Dixon line.

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