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Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:31 PM

Beautiful Twins At Center Of Petraeus Scandal Schmoozed With Elite And Racked Up Millions In Debts

Beautiful Twins At Center Of Petraeus Scandal Schmoozed With Elite And Racked Up Millions In Debts

by John Swain at the Telegraph (Business Insider)

http://www.businessinsider.com/florida-twin-sisters-at-center-of-petraeus-scandal-2012-11

"SNIP.......................................

Twin Florida socialites who are at the centre of the David Petraeus affair gained intimate access to America's military and political elite through their high-rolling lifestyles even as they quietly racked up millions of dollars in debts and credit card bills.

Jill Kelley, whose complaint over threatening emails prompted the FBI inquiry that has ensnared two top generals, is mired in lawsuits from a string of banks totalling $4 million (2.5 million), court filings obtained by The Daily Telegraph in Florida show.

Meanwhile Mrs Kelley's identical twin Natalie Khawam who obtained testimonies to her good character from both Gen Petraeus and Gen John Allen during her own separate legal battle declared herself bankrupt earlier this year with liabilities of $3.6 million, filings show.

The 37-year-old sisters have emerged as central players in the saga gripping Washington's national security establishment since Mrs Kelley was named as the "second woman" allegedly harassed by jealous emails from Paula Broadwell, Gen Petraeus's biographer and mistress.

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Reply Beautiful Twins At Center Of Petraeus Scandal Schmoozed With Elite And Racked Up Millions In Debts (Original post)
applegrove Nov 2012 OP
Johonny Nov 2012 #1
applegrove Nov 2012 #6
aint_no_life_nowhere Nov 2012 #2
rzemanfl Nov 2012 #12
aint_no_life_nowhere Nov 2012 #20
aletier_v Nov 2012 #22
aint_no_life_nowhere Nov 2012 #23
hifiguy Nov 2012 #45
Blue_Tires Nov 2012 #53
DURHAM D Nov 2012 #25
aint_no_life_nowhere Nov 2012 #30
orwell Nov 2012 #38
fleur-de-lisa Nov 2012 #44
flamingdem Nov 2012 #3
speedoo Nov 2012 #4
ellie Nov 2012 #8
bluestate10 Nov 2012 #9
HipChick Nov 2012 #14
aletier_v Nov 2012 #18
HipChick Nov 2012 #33
JI7 Nov 2012 #19
speedoo Nov 2012 #41
speedoo Nov 2012 #57
GP6971 Nov 2012 #10
JI7 Nov 2012 #17
hifiguy Nov 2012 #46
Mike Daniels Nov 2012 #42
corneliamcgillicutty Nov 2012 #60
alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #5
kentuck Nov 2012 #7
Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #11
busterbrown Nov 2012 #13
Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #15
HangOnKids Nov 2012 #27
Aerows Nov 2012 #51
Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #55
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CrazyOrangeCat Nov 2012 #56
ellisonz Nov 2012 #16
DURHAM D Nov 2012 #21
aletier_v Nov 2012 #24
DURHAM D Nov 2012 #32
BainsBane Nov 2012 #35
DURHAM D Nov 2012 #36
BainsBane Nov 2012 #37
No Vested Interest Nov 2012 #39
Mike Daniels Nov 2012 #43
Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #26
flamingdem Nov 2012 #34
leftlibdem420 Nov 2012 #28
lorasandoras Nov 2012 #29
Blue Owl Nov 2012 #31
Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #40
hifiguy Nov 2012 #47
snooper2 Nov 2012 #48
Aerows Nov 2012 #49
bklyncowgirl Nov 2012 #58
speedoo Nov 2012 #59
Sheepshank Nov 2012 #50
applegrove Nov 2012 #62
myrna minx Nov 2012 #52
no_hypocrisy Nov 2012 #54
bklyncowgirl Nov 2012 #61
Ken Burch Nov 2012 #63
aletier_v Nov 2012 #64
Ken Burch Nov 2012 #65
joeunderdog Nov 2012 #66

Response to applegrove (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:36 PM

1. Ever see the movie Grifters...

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Response to Johonny (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:38 PM

6. You don't have to wonder what she will do with her fame.

She'll turn it into money, write a book.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:37 PM

2. Close to $8 million in debt between the twins

How do you get that far into debt when you're a successful attorney and married to a surgeon?

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:51 PM

12. Who says she is a "sucessful" attorney?

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Response to rzemanfl (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:10 AM

20. At least it looks like she's employed

For a lot of attorneys, getting a regular paycheck is being successful. It looks like she graduated with a Juris Doctorate from a pretty prestigious law school, Georgetown Law and also has an MBA and a Master of Science according to her profile.

http://www.avvo.com/attorneys/33602-fl-natalie-khawam-1235319.html

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:12 AM

22. do you think her profile is real?

I'm kinda doubtful.

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:17 AM

23. Who can say for certain, about anything in this matter

Years ago I knew a very attractive blonde lady who worked for a big law firm in Los Angeles. Sometimes my firm's boss used to invite her out for coffee after a day in court and I'd tag along. Everyone including the judges thought this very sexy lady was a lawyer and she represented herself as such, with business cards. It turns out she'd faked everything, diplomas, letters of reference, bar certificate and her employer never bothered to verify with the state bar. Her law firm not only discovered her fraud, but it turned out she moonlighted for an escort service. She was a prostitute, a very smart and articulate one as she was able to carry out the charade for several months. She was suddenly warned by someone in her office that the jig was up and never showed up back to her office after a morning appearance in court.

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #23)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:46 AM

45. Practicing law without a license is an express ticket

to the hoosegow in most states.

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #23)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:21 PM

53. If you can look and sound the part, you'll get the benefit of the doubt

more than half the time...That's why professional party crashers still get in repeatedly

Off the top of my head, there have been more than a few stories (some real, some urban legend) including any profession you can think of: TV studio execs, professors, authors, doctors, pro athletes, surgeons(!), airline pilots(!!) where these frauds were able to work for weeks, if not months just because they got the benefit of the doubt...

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:26 AM

25. From Martindale-

Natalie Khawam, Esq., M.B.A., M.S. - Lawyer Profile

Update this Profile Natalie Khawam, Esq., M.B.A., M.S.
1005 Bayshore Blvd.
Tampa, Florida
(Hillsborough Co.)

Experience & Credentials

University Beaver College, B.A.

Law School Georgetown University, J.D.

Admitted 2006

ISLN 919952124


I think the address is Jill's house.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #25)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:43 AM

30. I think they're getting it from the Florida State Bar where she's licensed

http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/0/163A73B5A2C3FBE3852572060062EFB7?OpenDocument

I've been an attorney for 30 years in California and I've always listed my home address with the bar and never the address of my place of employment. I don't know what the rules are in Florida but I suspect if you have no "permanent" position with a firm such as partner and are simply an associate, you would more likely list a permanent address which is your residence. At her profile page, if you click on "lawyer's website" it takes you to the website of the law firm Trenam & Kemker where I assume she is (was) employed. Again Georgetown is a top flight law school, top 20 in the country at least, if not top 15.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #25)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:37 AM

38. Beaver College...

...

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Response to orwell (Reply #38)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:43 AM

44. I was thinking the same thing! - eom

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:37 PM

3. Yeah, good character

just like some of our allies in Afganistan who walk out fresh $100 bills on pallates..

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:37 PM

4. "Beautiful"?

Not based on the pics I have seen.

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Response to speedoo (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:46 PM

8. Yes, these guys certainly have a "type."

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Response to speedoo (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:48 PM

9. All of the women involved have big chests. Apparently, the Generals never got past that. nt

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Response to bluestate10 (Reply #9)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:54 PM

14. They look 'purchased'

I used to work in a plastic surgeon's office...not that there is anything wrong in augmentation, but some women get them too big for their ribcages, and it does not look good

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Response to HipChick (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:58 PM

18. "it does not look good"

It's not how it looks,
it's how it feels that matters.

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:07 AM

33. Silicone is better than saline

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Response to HipChick (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:59 PM

19. isn't the main sister involved in this married to a surgeon ?

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Response to bluestate10 (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:44 AM

41. And then there is the "twins" thing.

Jill and the sis are identical twins.

If so, that could add to their perceived "beauty".

Oh those generals can get very kinky, ya know.

And Jill looks pretty good in that pink dress in the article linked by the OP, much better than any other pics I've seen.

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Response to bluestate10 (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:24 PM

57. Yeah, big chests and the ability to fake orgasms well.

Plus the "twins" thing.......

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Response to speedoo (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:48 PM

10. My guess is

that's all in the sight of the beholder. Probably near sighted at best, with no glasses.

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Response to speedoo (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:58 PM

17. have you seen the Generals involved in this ?

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Response to JI7 (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:47 AM

46. Let's put it this way: Clooney ain't worried.

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Response to speedoo (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:55 AM

42. I guess if one is into the Kardashians they would find these two beautiful

As for me, from the pictures I've seen I don't find them to even fall into the "cute" category.

I didn't gravitate to a particular "type" during my single years but I can say with certainty that the twins wouldn't have been on my radar.

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Response to speedoo (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:38 PM

60. I'm with you on that. If the eyes

are the windows to the soul, these girls have the dark shades down ala eye makeup overkill.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:38 PM

5. Jay-sus

They are active in the G.O.P. social scene in Florida," said a Republican source. "They are fun, friendly and beautiful people and political folks like them. I guess they've hit difficult times". After being given a certificate at one event naming her an "honorary ambassador", Mrs Kelley is said to have begun using the title without the "honorary" prefix.


I'm guessing a lot of poor freeper types will be shocked to learn that there is a GOP social scene in Florida!



These people are cafone.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:39 PM

7. Next chapter...

They are first cousins to the Kardashians. And there will be a sex tape that will put Kim Kardashian to shame...

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Response to kentuck (Reply #7)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:49 PM

11. these are REPUBLICAN men. Let's not get crazy about their performances.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:52 PM

13. Can not fucking wait until the RealityShow starts. I'm thinking fall 2013...... N/t

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:55 PM

15. New reality show: The Wandering Generals

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:28 AM

27. Nah It Should Be Stiff With Stars

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:12 PM

51. I first read this as

"The Wandering Genitals"

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Response to Aerows (Reply #51)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:23 PM

55. That may be an even better title

That could cover all politicians and religious leaders and the military

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Response to Aerows (Reply #51)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:23 PM

56. !

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:56 PM

16. Intervening in custody disputes...

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:11 AM

21. Dated Charlie Crist???

They also have direct links to Florida's highest political circles, The Daily Telegraph has learned. Miss Khawam once dated Charlie Crist, the state's former governor, a Republican source said, while Pam Bondi, its Attorney General and a close ally of Mitt Romney, attended a function at Mrs Kelley's home.

The sisters are also believed to have attended the farewell party for Sir Nigel Sheinwald, the former British ambassador to the US, in Washington last year. Peter King, a Republican congressman for New York who was at the event, told CNN yesterday that he had met Mrs Kelley at "one or two events at the British embassy". An embassy spokesman declined to check, saying that it would take too much time.


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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:23 AM

24. total grifters.

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #24)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:06 AM

32. Check this out -

http://www2.tbo.com/news/breaking-news/2012/nov/13/2/jill-kelley-asks-for-diplomatic-protection-from-co-ar-563651/

Though she has the special license plate, it remained unclear Tuesday how she qualified for it.

Applicants must show proof they are members of the Honorary Consular Corps, which appears from the U.S. Department of State website to consist of representatives from foreign countries. Florida verifies that with the State Department, said Courtney Heidelberg, who is with the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles.

Florida has issued 107 such license plates.

Mark Toner, deputy spokesman with the State Department, said Kelley "does not work for State, has no affiliation with State."

His office referred all questions about Kelley to the Republic of Korea in an email received after hours.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #32)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:46 AM

35. she claimed "honorary consular" status in her 911 call

like it gave her some sort of diplomatic immunity. I thought she was an American citizen? So how can claim diplomatic status?

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #35)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:48 AM

36. Simple - she is crazy.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #36)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:04 AM

37. check this out

"Mark Toner, deputy spokesman with the State Department, said Kelley "does not work for State, has no affiliation with State."

His office referred all questions about Kelley to the Republic of Korea in an email received after hours."
http://www2.tbo.com/news/breaking-news/2012/nov/13/2/jill-kelley-asks-for-diplomatic-protection-from-co-ar-563651/

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #35)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:44 AM

39. Jill claims to be an honorary consul

for South Korea.
I've heard of these titles, but don't know how they get them. - Probably just knowing someone and asking for it.

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #24)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:58 AM

43. The 2012 model of the White House party crashers (the Sahlids?)

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:28 AM

26. Yeah, I gotta say that WHOLE article is worth reading. Talk about...

...and EYE opener!

PB

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:09 AM

34. Dated Charlie Christ huh? Well THAT explains everything

She is an escort, not necessarily for sex.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:29 AM

28. Poor Rick Scott (not)

 

This isn't even his fault, but so much of what's wrong with FL and with the GOP is. He's DEAD in 2014. The Democrats will win their biggest FL landslide of the post-civil rights era.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:32 AM

29. Spam deleted by Behind the Aegis (MIR Team)

 

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:48 AM

31. Anyone got a hankering for some Doublemint gum?

n/t

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:53 AM

47. A smarter and more ambitious Sarah Palin, squared.

High-toned grifters.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:05 PM

48. LOL, they didn't bleep out her phone number or address in the 911 calls,

Real clear in the third call

I'd post the number but you can listen to it in the video...For some reason the PTB don't like readily available phone numbers posted here


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http://www2.tbo.com/news/breaking-news/2012/nov/13/16/jill-kelley-asks-for-diplomatic-protection-from-co-ar-563651/

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:09 PM

49. Am I the only one

who thinks this is beginning to smell less like sex and more like blackmailing and potentially espionage?

These women are just too hooked into the intelligence community, still live in their mansions with buttloads of debt and one of them ran a fake charity for it to just be about sex.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #49)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:25 PM

58. Why not a lovely mix of blackmail, espionage AND sex--not to mention incredible stupidity.

I can forgive horny. I can't forgive stupid.

How in hell does the director of the CIA not realize that intelligence and law enforcement agencies can trace things like IP addresses in their sleep and using a G-mail account will not let him hide for long? It would not shock me if these were foreign agents though what govenment would let their spies get so deep in debt is beyond me.

Maybe it is just what it looks like "Real Housewives Meets the Brass"

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Response to Aerows (Reply #49)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:26 PM

59. Espionage requires a lot of guile and smarts.

I see no evidence of either requirement in this crowd.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:11 PM

50. Republican women, hell bent on appearances, living outside of their means.....

...there's not a whole lotta 'right' going on here.

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Response to Sheepshank (Reply #50)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:54 PM

62. The republican men are all about making $$$ nomatter who they

run over or what they destroy. Why would the women be any different?

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:13 PM

52. Who *are* these people?!

How did she get her "title" and WFH about these license plates? How much of their grifting and "lavish" parties have been at the tax payer's expense?

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:23 PM

54. Paula Broadwell would have had a best-seller if she had focused on the Twins instead of Petraeus.

This is really juicy.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #54)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:41 PM

61. If she manages to stay out of prison I predict a multi-million dollar book deal for Paula. nt

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:55 PM

63. It'd be a better story if they were Siamese twins and Petraeus was cheating on Broadwell with them

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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #63)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:59 PM

64. you havent heard the rest of the story yet

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #64)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:02 PM

65. ...I'm sure the REAL weirdness is just starting...

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:15 PM

66. Leveraged $4M? No wonder no one can get a re-fi.

WTF? How was she gonna pay that back? How does it get that far for her when people with good credit can't even get a car loan?

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