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Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:51 PM

Christie Reverses Stand on Tax Increases After Storm.

Gov. Chris Christie, a Republican who has pushed aggressively for cutting and capping taxes in New Jersey during his three years in office, said Tuesday that people who lived in towns destroyed by Hurricane Sandy were likely to pay higher taxes to help rebuild.

“It’s got to be paid for,” he said. “There’s no magic money tree.”

In a 40-minute news conference in Trenton, Mr. Christie said he expected the federal government to do as much as it had done for victims of Hurricane Katrina on the Gulf Coast to help rebuild New Jersey. And he said that municipalities would be allowed to raise property taxes more than the 2 percent limit that he signed into law in 2010 to cover costs brought on by the storm.

“No one’s ever happy with higher taxes, but the fact is, what annoys people more than anything else is waste,” he said. “As long as they know that the money’s being spent in a way that’s helping to bring their town back to life, I think people will understand it’s got to be done.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/nyregion/chris-christie-reverses-stand-on-tax-hikes-after-storm.html?hp

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Reply Christie Reverses Stand on Tax Increases After Storm. (Original post)
elleng Nov 2012 OP
Kalidurga Nov 2012 #1
CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2012 #3
Agschmid Nov 2012 #13
Exen Trik Nov 2012 #18
Flatpicker Nov 2012 #30
Bake Nov 2012 #24
awoke_in_2003 Nov 2012 #32
cstanleytech Nov 2012 #34
snooper2 Nov 2012 #5
NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #19
PatrynXX Nov 2012 #25
Scootaloo Nov 2012 #26
Barack_America Nov 2012 #2
Tx4obama Nov 2012 #4
Mothdust Nov 2012 #6
ceejdre82 Nov 2012 #10
whistler162 Nov 2012 #21
ceejdre82 Nov 2012 #36
pnwmom Nov 2012 #23
iemitsu Nov 2012 #7
JI7 Nov 2012 #8
Major Hogwash Nov 2012 #9
bluestate10 Nov 2012 #12
John2 Nov 2012 #11
sheshe2 Nov 2012 #14
elleng Nov 2012 #15
sheshe2 Nov 2012 #16
4lbs Nov 2012 #35
Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #17
alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #20
bucolic_frolic Nov 2012 #22
veganlush Nov 2012 #27
donco Nov 2012 #28
Javaman Nov 2012 #29
Flatpicker Nov 2012 #31
benld74 Nov 2012 #33

Response to elleng (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:54 PM

1. Uh oh if he keeps this up...

He will end up with a D by his name. How will we handle that?

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:56 PM

3. How about we welcome him with open arms?

He might make a pretty good Democrat!

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:37 PM

13. +1 n/t

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:36 AM

18. Hey could play one well enough

And he'd side with us to further his ambitions, but he'd never be worthy of ours or anyones trust.

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Response to Exen Trik (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:01 PM

30. But that's most politicians

Through out history.

As long as he votes for our issues, I'd say take him in.

He's already a better Dem than Lieberman was.

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:33 PM

24. My dear Peggy!

Christie's still got a long way to go before becoming a D, but who knows? He might get there!



Bake

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:13 PM

32. One thing I will give that man...

is that he speaks his mind. I may disagree with him sometime, but I can respect a man who "tells it like it is" and is wiling to evolve.

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:36 PM

34. Considering he still supported Romney? I'll pass.

However I wouldnt object to Obama nominating him for the position of Ambassador to Germany, France or Japan.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:04 PM

5. nobody will make fun of his inability to put the Quarter Pounders down?

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:47 AM

19. Another DINO? I think the GOP needs more moderates, not fewer.

The whole problem at this point is that almost all the moderate conservatives have left the GOP. Either they've become Democrats (pulling the party to the right, which is another problem) or they've become independents. Either way, moderates jumping ship is exactly why the GOP is so extreme now.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:35 PM

25. think the storm during him into a Moderate

D no. R no. Moderate yes. which is where the Republicans (Reagan) used to be.

Nothing to it. When one faces such a thing. It may wake one up. without Revenue the Rich go bankrupt.

Course whats always misunderstood on Rich is shopping. Love going to Dollar General and finding BMW's usually current models in the parking lot. Yeah thats how they save money. They don't do Donald Trump . Thats the normal Rich. The VIP Rich not so much.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:39 PM

26. I'd rather he spearhead reform in the GOP

I like what he's doing... just so long as he's doing it over there.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:55 PM

2. Based on what property value?

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:58 PM

4. How about the land developers cough up some money, since it was stupid to build so close to water ..


... in the first place.



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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:07 PM

6. how about big shot

Donald Trump pay for it ?

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Response to Mothdust (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:11 PM

10. he can donate $5 million.....or what about Mitt...he has some extra time on his hands

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Response to ceejdre82 (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:23 AM

21. True and he has experience shoveling

worthless sh#t!

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Response to whistler162 (Reply #21)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:17 PM

36. and cleaning a football stadium...did you see when he said that, comparing Sandy's aftermath to

cleaning a football stadium after a game!

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:27 PM

23. It wasn't stupid a hundred years ago, when much of the shore was first developed.

Environmental science didn't exist as a field then and climate change wasn't on the horizon.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:08 PM

7. It seems, on the surface, like Christy may be softening up a bit on the

ultra-conservative approach toward governance but if you read closely his tone suggests otherwise, "No one’s ever happy with higher taxes, but the fact is, what annoys people more than anything else is waste,” he said. “As long as they know that the money’s being spent in a way that’s helping to bring their town back to life, I think people will understand it’s got to be done.” The implication is that when he sees a need for higher taxes "people will understand" but when a democrat sees a need for higher taxes he/she is advocating for waste.
He knows that government needs revenue but he, like other republican authoritarians, is sure that only he, or others who share his world view, can make responsible public policy.
What he is demonstrating however, is that he is a human being, who wants good things for his community and who is willing to be flexible in his governance to promote that goal.
That is not such a bad reputation for a republican governor.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:08 PM

8. Republicans seem to only see things when it happens, these people are the moderates

and then there are the others which probably make up the majority of republicans which is that what happened is because of the gays , godless country, socialism etc.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:09 PM

9. Reality hit Christie in the ass on October 29th.

No more posturing, no more bullshitting, no more Jersey shore.

Yeah, revenues are going to have to go way up in order to rebuild.
And Democrats call those revenues, "taxes".

Get used to it.

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Response to Major Hogwash (Reply #9)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:33 PM

12. Yep. I love how he has called out Gulf State aid twice. Wonder whether Jindal still like Christie? n

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:28 PM

11. Da!

 

Go tell your buddies in the GOP that, this country doesn't run on air. So Christie believes in Big Government now. The poverty rate would go up in New Jersey if they got their way. Northern Republicans use to didn't side with State's Rights Politicians in the South. They just hijacked your Party and called themselves Republicans. Now you got people like Todd Akins, Mitch McConnell and Newt Ginrich. These are Strom Thurmond and Jessie Helm's politicians. You add in Gary Bower,Pat Robertson and Mike Huckabee what do you have. Then you add Rush Limbaugh ( the Republican's Archie Bunker).

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:13 AM

14. Bye Bye Norquist and his pledge

Hello happiness!

Are they finally learning something! Please tell me they are.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:15 AM

15. SURE HOPE SO, she.

Lots of opportunities for 'them' to learn a thing or two, and seems as if some have done so.

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Response to elleng (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:17 AM

16. We can only hope!

Thanks for the post! We need good news!

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 06:25 AM

35. Rachel Maddow said today that the number of GOP Congressmembers who signed the

Norquist pledge is very low.

He's gradually losing his power and influence.

That's good for us!

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 03:17 AM

17. didn't he sign with grover?

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:16 AM

20. The entire GOP front is collapsing

Attack!

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:33 PM

22. Maybe Christie should address Congressional Republicans

No magic money tree?

Bwahhhhhhhhhh! I want my millionaire tax cut so I can buy a new yacht!

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:39 PM

27. hey I'm starting to like this guy

he knows how to talk

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:47 PM

28. Grovers not

gonna like this.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:22 PM

29. It appears as if christi is going to run for prez under Obama's platform. lol nt

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:05 PM

31. Just proves that Reality has a Liberal bias.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:22 PM

33. Is there an over/under line as to when Christie begins to act like his old self?

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