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Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:19 PM

Turn on Ed Shultz right fuggin' now - the Petraeus scandal all started

with an attempt to smear the President - coming up after the break!!

Butter anyone????

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Reply Turn on Ed Shultz right fuggin' now - the Petraeus scandal all started (Original post)
malaise Nov 2012 OP
still_one Nov 2012 #1
2naSalit Nov 2012 #3
TeeYiYi Nov 2012 #19
Cobalt Violet Nov 2012 #27
gateley Nov 2012 #28
donco Nov 2012 #29
TeeYiYi Nov 2012 #33
2naSalit Nov 2012 #46
TeeYiYi Nov 2012 #48
malaise Nov 2012 #5
Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2012 #51
MoonRiver Nov 2012 #65
sasha031 Nov 2012 #2
malaise Nov 2012 #4
hrmjustin Nov 2012 #6
BeHereNow Nov 2012 #9
hrmjustin Nov 2012 #13
BeHereNow Nov 2012 #17
Skittles Nov 2012 #23
BeHereNow Nov 2012 #26
Skittles Nov 2012 #35
BeHereNow Nov 2012 #39
Skittles Nov 2012 #41
BeHereNow Nov 2012 #43
BeHereNow Nov 2012 #20
hrmjustin Nov 2012 #49
Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #10
NCarolinawoman Nov 2012 #21
OneGrassRoot Nov 2012 #8
BeHereNow Nov 2012 #12
malaise Nov 2012 #56
malaise Nov 2012 #55
eomer Nov 2012 #7
Ruby the Liberal Nov 2012 #11
Indpndnt Nov 2012 #16
Barack_America Nov 2012 #18
still_one Nov 2012 #24
nobodyspecial Nov 2012 #25
Ruby the Liberal Nov 2012 #38
gateley Nov 2012 #31
Ruby the Liberal Nov 2012 #37
eomer Nov 2012 #54
malaise Nov 2012 #57
Ruby the Liberal Nov 2012 #61
alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #60
Ruby the Liberal Nov 2012 #62
alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #63
Ruby the Liberal Nov 2012 #68
coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #14
malaise Nov 2012 #66
spanone Nov 2012 #15
BeHereNow Nov 2012 #22
aletier_v Nov 2012 #30
aint_no_life_nowhere Nov 2012 #32
aletier_v Nov 2012 #34
malaise Nov 2012 #58
robinlynne Nov 2012 #36
lonestarnot Nov 2012 #40
ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #42
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #44
BeHereNow Nov 2012 #45
ThoughtCriminal Nov 2012 #47
malaise Nov 2012 #59
rhett o rick Nov 2012 #50
KauaiK Nov 2012 #52
StrictlyRockers Nov 2012 #53
malaise Nov 2012 #67
deutsey Nov 2012 #64
Blue_In_AK Nov 2012 #69
AntiFascist Nov 2012 #70
Blue_In_AK Nov 2012 #72
malaise Nov 2012 #71
Blue_In_AK Nov 2012 #73
malaise Nov 2012 #74
Blue_In_AK Nov 2012 #75

Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:30 PM

1. I suspected that, especially since they went to cantor and no one else. What slime

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Response to still_one (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:36 PM

3. I have to wait

until it finishes the "on air" time slot then I can watch online. I live way out in the boonies and have no TeeVee. But I have been anxiously waiting to watch it all day, after that I can watch Maddow. They are the most realistic and honest journalists on the tube anymore... even though I watch online.

Thanks for the heads up.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:13 PM

19. Where do you watch online?...

I'm in the boonies too...no tv. I listen to Ed and Rachel on TuneIn Radio but I'd like to find a reliable online video resource...

TYY

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Response to TeeYiYi (Reply #19)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:28 PM

27. I watch here

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Response to TeeYiYi (Reply #19)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:28 PM

28. Try this:

http://blog.livenewschat.tv/

I used to stream MSNBC at work until they told me to knock it off. And I can't stream on my iPad so I can't double check it for you, but you should be able to find it from this page.

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Response to TeeYiYi (Reply #19)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:35 PM

33. Thank you Cobalt Violet, gateway and donco. Links much appreciated! …nt

TYY

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Response to TeeYiYi (Reply #33)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:31 PM

46. News worth watching...

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #46)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:45 PM

48. Thank you 2naSalit...

I usually get by pretty well with justintv or dishonline and a slingbox, but happy to have the new links to msnbc, etc..

TYY

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Response to still_one (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:38 PM

5. That's why Joe Scum is so visibly upset

and bawling about privacy issues because everyone involved is a ReTHUG and many have links to Rove and Rmoney.

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Response to malaise (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:22 PM

51. It back-fired

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Response to still_one (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:23 AM

65. Exactly! Cantor but not POTUS?

Give me a break.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:35 PM

2. I can't keep my eyes off your kitty video

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Response to sasha031 (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:36 PM

4. They are so cute

I found it on the 'internets'

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Response to malaise (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:38 PM

6. I love them too. I have 5 cats myself.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:54 PM

9. Had 5, but a coyote got my old man...Spider

Spider was the King of the Cats-
It's funny how the other cats seem to sense my grief and try
to compensate.

Cats are the most spiritual creatures on the planet, IMO.

And gymnastics?
Hell, I wish I could fly!
How do they
DO that anyway?

BHN

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Response to BeHereNow (Reply #9)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:01 PM

13. I remember My 2 year old cat died on the living room table and the other cats stayed with her for...

... some time. They are amazing creatures.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #13)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:09 PM

17. Yes, they are amazing creatures that too many take for granted.

I could never trust a person who didn't love cats.
They seem to have evolved among us with the perfect balance of
independence and devotion-
And someone please tell me,
HOW is it possible for any creature to jump seven feet in the air
and cross a gate only to land, with perfect balance, on it's invisible target on the other side?
Amazing just doesn't cover it IMO!
BHN

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Response to BeHereNow (Reply #17)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:19 PM

23. my cat Clancy is supposedly 80 years old in human years

yet he can still leap 6 times his height? they are indeed amazing

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Response to Skittles (Reply #23)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:24 PM

26. Skittles, what is the computation for cat years?

I know for dogs is 7?
Never knew what the kitteh ratio was-

And yes, 6 times his height is AMAZING.
I firmly believe the reason the coyote got my Spider
was because he could no longer do that- hip problems and all.
He did get his licks in though- I found plenty of coyote fur at the scene of the murder.

BHN

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Response to Skittles (Reply #35)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:01 PM

39. Oh man, I feel so guilty now...

Knowing that a cat's life expectancy doubles if they are kept indoors.

Spider liked to do his "business" in private- in the 13 years he was my buddy,
I NEVER, not ONCE, saw him "go."

He always excused himself around 3 or 4 AM to go do his business.
He always stayed in our fenced yard.

He was SMART.

He always came back within 15 minutes.
Ready to be snuggled and tucked back in to the bed next to me.

And then, he did not. That fateful night.

Mystery to me is WHY is he left the yard.

My neighbor, two yards away, found him, or what was left of him...

How I miss him.
He was the COOLEST cat EVER!
BHN

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Response to BeHereNow (Reply #39)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:06 PM

41. so sorry BHN

I had a cat named Spider too (named after that "spider mark" on the forehead), now long gone

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Response to Skittles (Reply #41)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:12 PM

43. Thanks Skittles, for your condolences.

We are so fortunate to have the love of any fur person-
It is so devastating when we lose them.
Unspeakable grief.
I know.

BHN

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #13)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:15 PM

20. Two years old? WTH?

That is a very early death for a cat-
What the heck happened?



So sorry for your loss...

BHN

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Response to BeHereNow (Reply #20)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:13 PM

49. She had a heart condition.

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Response to malaise (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:55 PM

10. They're TOO CUTE! Animal Planet has a show called "Too Cute." Each show...

has several groups of either puppies or kittens. It follows each group from birth through toddler stage. And the title is true. They're all TOO CUTE!

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:16 PM

21. That was one of the programs I watched to get away from politics.

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Response to sasha031 (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:52 PM

8. Same here...lolol

malaise, you're a trip!



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Response to OneGrassRoot (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:56 PM

12. A great trip! The Malaise.

One of my all time favorite DUers.
Hands down.

BHN

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Response to BeHereNow (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:38 AM

56. Back at you

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:37 AM

55. LOL

Love you back sis

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:48 PM

7. Details?

The "after the break" story must be done by now, did it deliver how "the Petraeus scandal all started with an attempt to smear the President"?

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Response to eomer (Reply #7)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:55 PM

11. Didn't see Ed's segment, but the story is that the FBI guy

that Jill Kelley reached out to about the Fatal Attraction emails (the guy who sent her shirtless pics of himself) is a total RW nut job. FBI pulled him off the case (and cut him out of the updates) because he was too 'close and personal' to it. Fearing that there was going to be a coverup, he fancied himself the Bob Woodward/Carl Bernstein of 2012 and took the scoop to a RW Rep from Washington State and Eric Cantor because he wanted the information public before the election and didn't think the FBI was going to continue to pursue it.

Now, its all kind of blowing up in his face as everyone within spitting distance is being shown to be a lunatic of the highest order, or corrupt, or just plain morally bankrupt. Now a second general (Allen) has had his confirmation hearing put on hold, general Petraeus has lost his career, and 4+ families have been upended.

All because RWNJ thought he had the "goods" on the administration.

Convoluted enough?

Edit - here is a better explanation: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021804759

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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #11)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:08 PM

16. That's a very straightforward explanation. Nicely done!

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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #11)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:12 PM

18. He's going to end up on a private flight to nowhere. nt

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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #11)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:20 PM

24. I think you did a great job of explaining it

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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #11)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:22 PM

25. "Goods on the administration."

Obama had nothing to do with it and no knowledge of it.

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Response to nobodyspecial (Reply #25)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:59 PM

38. Yep.

May have worded it badly - so I googled it. Actual quote about the motivation here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021811290#post37

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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #11)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:30 PM

31. "Fearing" that there was going to be a cover up, or praying for it?

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Response to gateley (Reply #31)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:58 PM

37. Last story I saw earlier quoted

a naturally 'unnamed FBI source' that said he went to R-WA (Green River guy) and Cantor out of frustration - because he was cut off from the updates, he thought they weren't pursuing it. As we know now (or as they are telling us), both Broadwell and Petraeus were questioned in Sept/Oct about this, but as RWNJ didn't know that, he leaked because he thought he had the October Surprise.

The word used in the quote was that these actions outside of protocol was due to his "worldview".

I googled "worldview + Cantor" and think it was this NYT article:

Ms. Kelley, a volunteer with wounded veterans and military families, brought her complaint to a rank-and-file agent she knew from a previous encounter with the F.B.I. office, the official also said. That agent, who had previously pursued a friendship with Ms. Kelley and had earlier sent her shirtless photographs of himself, was “just a conduit” for the complaint, he said. He had no training in cybercrime, was not part of the cyber squad handling the case and was never assigned to the investigation.

But the agent, who was not identified, continued to “nose around” about the case, and eventually his superiors “told him to stay the hell away from it, and he was not invited to briefings,” the official said. The Wall Street Journal first reported on Monday night that the agent had been barred from the case.

Later, the agent became convinced — incorrectly, the official said — that the case had stalled. Because of his “worldview,” as the official put it, he suspected a politically motivated cover-up to protect President Obama. The agent alerted Eric Cantor, the House majority leader, who called the F.B.I. director, Robert S. Mueller III, on Oct. 31 to tell him of the agent’s concerns.

The official said the agent’s self-described “whistle-blowing” was “a little embarrassing” but had no effect on the investigation.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/13/us/timeline-shows-fbi-discovered-petraeus-affair-in-summer.html?hp&_r=0

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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:35 AM

54. Thanks! (eom)

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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:39 AM

57. Yours is pretty good

but remember the Broadwell woman has that photo with Rove which he posted on Twitter.

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Response to malaise (Reply #57)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:20 AM

61. I filed her under "morally bankrupt"

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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:52 AM

60. He was NOT pulled off the case because he was NEVER ON THE CASE

He was simply the person who alerted the FBI Tampa office to the situation. He was never assigned any formal role in the investigation itself.

Think of it this way:

A beat cop notices that there are a lot of coming and goings to a particular house on his beat, and suspects that it may be drug house.

The beat cop reports this at a morning meeting, and his sergeant contacts the vice squad, who have a special drug task force for that neighborhood.

The investigation begins among the drug task force. The beat cop, while "initiating" the investigation, has no formal role in the investigation: he is still a beat cop and has not been reassigned to the drug task force.

The drug task force is investigating separately.

The beat cop cannot be "pulled" from the investigation, because he was never on it. That's the story with shirtless FBI employee. He reported a suspicious thing to relevant personnel within the Bureau, but had no formal role in the investigation.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #60)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:22 AM

62. Shorthand

See the link in my post above that I was paraphrasing from. They stopped allowing him to get updates on the case. Maybe "cut him off from the information flow" fits better?

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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #62)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:56 AM

63. Yeah, that's a good one

I like your description!

The upshot, of course, is that the dude was a meddling pain in the ass. Imagine having to be told to stop meddling by somebody in your own FBI office!

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #63)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:22 PM

68. And that meddling pain in the ass

thought he was going to take down the Obama administration with his super-secret knowledge. Little did he know he was unraveling the GOP at the top of the military.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:03 PM

14. Cute kitties! :) - n/t

 

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:28 AM

66. They are unraveling this ReTHUG yarn

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:06 PM

15. k&r...

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:19 PM

22. Back to the original topic...sorry, got distracted by the kittehs.

I'm not surprised at all that the whole thing was orchestrated to
undermine the President-
What PISSES me off is the fact that, we, the people, PAID for
their miscreant behavior!
BHN

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:29 PM

30. New Theory - Debt-ridden Twins circling Patreaus like sharks

and heroine Paula battling them away from their prey.

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #30)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:33 PM

32. Digging around for classified secrets to sell?

I'm still trying to figure out why the Kelleys would go millions into debt to entertain military big wigs and what could possibly be in it for them.

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #32)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:37 PM

34. cause n effect

Did they go into debt to meet bigwigs...

or did they meet bigwigs because they were in debt?

Was Patraeus trading favors via "contacts" and "contracts" to keep them quiet?

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #32)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:41 AM

58. I don't know where I read that they were involved in some military charity

I'm betting it was one of those that collected money for injured vets and stole it.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:44 PM

36. k&r. and I want to find this thread again.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:02 PM

40. Have to wait for the rerun. Thanks for those cute kitties.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:11 PM

42. What a soap opera...

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:14 PM

44. This is a hell of a soap opera

That none could peddle as fiction, but we could in the currents affairs section...amazing.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #44)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:24 PM

45. I can't wait for the Lifetime movie!


BHN

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:35 PM

47. I think "Plan X" is getting a little out of control now...

Was this all cleared with the Central Committee?

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Response to ThoughtCriminal (Reply #47)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:46 AM

59. No where is Kurovski when I need him

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:20 PM

50. The Repubs are looking for a way to impeach Pres Obama. nm

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:23 PM

52. I hope this leads to Cantor's ouster!!

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:25 AM

53. I love DU! Thanks, malaise! n/t

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Response to StrictlyRockers (Reply #53)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:18 AM

67. We love DU

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:10 AM

64. Not a word about this on CBS This Morning

and they dedicated a large portion of the show to the scandal.

Not that I'm surprised.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:31 PM

69. I've probably missed some things while I'm down here playing with my grand kids,

but is there any connection between this scandal and the confusion following Benghazi? I SO want some ammo to shut up my FB friend who won't let the Benghazi thing go. Could the CIA under Petraeus have purposefully given confusing or misleading information about what happened there?

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Response to Blue_In_AK (Reply #69)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:38 PM

70. Broadwell gave out classified information during a speech...

that the CIA was holding prisoners (defying a Presidential order) at the Benghazi site which ultimately led to the attack. The cover story is now that this information was based on a false Fox news report, and the CIA is denying that there is any truth to this. Meanwhile, the FBI is thoroughly searching Broadwell's home and has found a substantial amount of classified documents that she should not have been in her possession. Also, Petraeus is now resigned because of his affair with Broadwell. Obviously, this is about much more than just an affair.

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Response to AntiFascist (Reply #70)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:42 PM

72. At first I thought it was just about an affair,

but the more that's revealed, the more it seems like we've just scratched the surface.

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Response to Blue_In_AK (Reply #69)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:41 PM

71. Broadwell has also been photographed with Rove

Everyone in the scandal is a ReTHUG and many are wondering if it's not linked to the so called planned October surprise.
Mother Nature had other plans.

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Response to malaise (Reply #71)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:44 PM

73. Yeah, my few right-wing friends are clinging to this thing

like it's a fucking lifeboat.

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Response to malaise (Reply #74)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:41 PM

75. Thanks.

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