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Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:10 PM

I am disgusted...

first of all, this Paula person looks pretty oily and predatory to me. Second, what is this business about sending bare chested pictures to a married woman via email??? Third, why can't these guys who have my security and that of my country in their hands keep their minds above their belt buckles? I hear all this talk about the poor General, out there in the foreign boonies, fighting the good fight...nobody is talking about his wife, Holly, who had to keep the family together, raise his kids, take care of business while the General is roaming the world. I was a "waiting wife" as they called us during the Vietnam War, and I know how hard it is to be trying to keep things together on the home front. Bullshit to these guys and bullshit to these predatory women. This whole thing is just a disgusting, badly written soap opera. I wish Holly well and hope she kicks the General to the curb, he richly deserves it. Hubris, look it up, it applies here.

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Reply I am disgusted... (Original post)
Raven Nov 2012 OP
Sadiedog Nov 2012 #1
snagglepuss Nov 2012 #2
Raven Nov 2012 #5
Schema Thing Nov 2012 #10
amywalk Nov 2012 #14
awoke_in_2003 Nov 2012 #23
Schema Thing Nov 2012 #24
awoke_in_2003 Nov 2012 #25
hrmjustin Nov 2012 #3
roguevalley Nov 2012 #7
femrap Nov 2012 #13
southernyankeebelle Nov 2012 #4
pinboy3niner Nov 2012 #6
heaven05 Nov 2012 #8
BeHereNow Nov 2012 #9
LynneSin Nov 2012 #11
Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #12
femrap Nov 2012 #15
Indpndnt Nov 2012 #16
neverforget Nov 2012 #18
dangin Nov 2012 #17
SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #19
jeff47 Nov 2012 #20
joetubes Nov 2012 #21
secondwind Nov 2012 #22
TorchTheWitch Nov 2012 #26

Response to Raven (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:13 PM

1. You are not alone! nt

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:14 PM

2. Exactly how do you know the general (s) aren't the predatory ones?

Oh yeah I forgot it is always the other woman's fault.

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Response to snagglepuss (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:18 PM

5. Blame goes all around. I did not mean to

imply that the General is a "victem". He is an asshole. It is not always the other woman's fault but it does take 2 to tango.

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Response to snagglepuss (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:34 PM

10. nobody's "predatory". Humans love to fuck from way back.



deal with it.


female, deal with it.

male, deal with it.


humans are fucking machines. Like most animal life here on planet earth.


For all I know, Holly has been fucking the football team while Dave's away.

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Response to Schema Thing (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:57 PM

14. Lol.

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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #23)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:08 AM

24. lol, even I had no idea the scope!

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:15 PM

3. I feel so bad for the generals wife Holly.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:15 PM

7. she is by all accounts a great woman who

helps military families. I respect and like her. she's married to an asshole. I hope he hides in a hole. God bless you, Holi

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Response to roguevalley (Reply #7)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:55 PM

13. She works at the Consumer Agency

 

that Elizabeth Warren used to head up. A very intelligent woman.

Hope the little general is sleeping at Motel 6.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:17 PM

4. Raven you speak for all the military wives and husband who stay behind and take care of

 

their families. Not many people understand what the spouse and their families do when the soldier isn't there. I am sorry I don't give the General or any soldier a break. If the spouse is at home and is being faithfull to him/her then they should also be faithfull.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:29 PM

6. On top of all that, Holly Petraeus also has been leading a program for military families

The Consumer Financial Protecion Bureau has a new office to protect service members

Consumer agency will fight to defend service members' pocketbooks

Financially inexperienced members of the military are often taken advantage of by unscrupulous merchants, but a branch of the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau has their back.


November 02, 2011|By Jim Puzzanghera, Los Angeles Times

...


The federal government has launched an initiative to prevent companies from taking advantage of young, often financially inexperienced service members.

To head the effort, it has enlisted Holly Petraeus (wife of CIA Director and former Army Gen. David H. Petraeus), a longtime advocate for military families who said that as an Army wife she was once ripped off by an unscrupulous landlord.

"I think a lot of people are surprised to think of the military as a target for unethical business practices or abuses," said Petraeus, head of the military affairs office at the recently opened Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

"But the fact is that they have an absolutely guaranteed paycheck; it comes in twice a month, and they're not going to quit or be laid off."

...


http://articles.latimes.com/2011/nov/02/business/la-fi-military-consumers-20111102



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Response to Raven (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:24 PM

8. grew up

in a military family, born in Munich. There is a lot of strain on the stay on base/at home mom. I have a story. Maybe one day. 10-4 on your comments and to you Raven I give a.....

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:27 PM

9. +1000; and furthermore...

The fact that we, the people, paid for much of this debauchery
only adds salt to the wound.


BHN

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:36 PM

11. There are some men who have no clue how to keep the little head....

From controlling the big head

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:41 PM

12. Pat Robertson said today that it was okay that the general bonked another woman

because he is just a man
I guess his god said it was okay
Pat needs to be asked if it is okay for women to do the same thing as they are out being a soldier or staying on the home front .........

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #12)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:58 PM

15. Robertson....

 

isn't he dead yet? Karma will get his widdle dick one of these days.

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #12)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:59 PM

16. Funny how one of those pesky Commandments nearly got in the way, isn't it?

Until good ol' Pat put the fix in. The hypocrite.

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #12)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:01 PM

18. Guess the so-called man of God forgot the 7th Commandment

"Thou shall not commit adultery." It's okay though if you're a Republican. God forgives Republicans but damns Democrats to Hell or something.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:00 PM

17. Stop it

We need to stop caring about sex scandals. This makes us like republicans.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:24 PM

19. I agree, not only is she keeping things together on

her own as he is back and forth between the US and the Middle East, but she has taken on the care and guidance of so many other 'waiting wives' (never heard that before!) that would be lost without her. We lived through a ME deployment and if anyone thinks the role of the spouse is easy, mm mm no brother! Not even. She has definitely been on my mind and I appreciate you reminding everyone about her.

The reason she's on my mind is because the betrayal would be bad enough on its own, but the very public betrayal has to make it that much worse.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:39 PM

20. On "Bare Chested Pictures"

Imagine this email from a long-time male friend:

"Hey (close friend)! Here's some pictures from our vacation at the beach!"

oooooooo!!! Scandalous!!!!!!!! Why, clearly he should have worn a 3-piece suit to the beach instead of a pair of trunks!!!

While there's been ample reporting about the fact that there are "bare chested pictures", there is no reporting on the context of those pictures. It's heavily insinuated that they are lurid, but there's no actual reporting that they are lurid.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:48 PM

21. Lil helmet head

Lil helmet head doesn't have much of a brain but sure can control the bigger one

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:50 PM

22. I totally agree, and I know what it was like also.. I gave birth while



my husband was in Vietnam.......

I have read some very awful comments about Holly Petraeus, about her looks, etc. (not on DU), and it just burns me how women are still measured by their looks, even after a certain age.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:17 PM

26. God damn, I'm so fucking tired of this sexist shit

What is the "predatory women" crap? Are these generals so fucking helpless in the presence of an attractive female that they just can't think straight? And who was likely to be more predatory? The young attractive female underlings or the ugly, old enough to be their father, ego infested generals accustomed to the whole world bowing down to their self-imposed greatness? And in the military where the cultural norm is for women to be so hated and vilified that rape and sexual harassment are a constant theme and where the persistence of the culture comes from the top down?

This "predatory women" horseshit is what wraps women in burkas - it's the same exact mindset that believes that men in the presence of women are rendered entirely helpless and utterly unable to keep their dicks in their pants whether the women want their attentions or not and this is the fault of the women.

All throughout DU for days since the story came out is full of nothing but these women - not the idiot generals - blaming them for being predatory, spies, Mata Hari's, and described with all sorts of sexist terms (broads, dames, chicks, etc.). Barely anything at all about what these stupid ego-infested generals did to themselves and the nation. THEY were the ones with the responsibility. THEY were the ones who should have known better. THEY were the ones that should have kept their brains in their heads and their dicks in their pants.



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