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Tue Nov 13, 2012, 04:04 PM

Next time you judge someone using food stamps...



Don't forget that if you own a fridge you are NOT poor according to Republicans... even if there is no food inside.

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Reply Next time you judge someone using food stamps... (Original post)
Playinghardball Nov 2012 OP
leftstreet Nov 2012 #1
Tribalceltic Nov 2012 #2
libdem4life Nov 2012 #3
azurnoir Nov 2012 #11
meti57b Nov 2012 #13
Tikki Nov 2012 #4
WinkyDink Nov 2012 #8
RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #5
Raster Nov 2012 #33
butterfly77 Nov 2012 #6
all american girl Nov 2012 #7
Skittles Nov 2012 #10
Skittles Nov 2012 #9
Ccarmona Nov 2012 #12
Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #14
gollygee Nov 2012 #27
Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #30
skydive forever Nov 2012 #15
Lokey Nov 2012 #16
WaitWut Nov 2012 #18
murielm99 Nov 2012 #17
Delmette Nov 2012 #19
WillyT Nov 2012 #20
etherealtruth Nov 2012 #21
UTUSN Nov 2012 #26
eridani Nov 2012 #31
mwooldri Nov 2012 #22
GreenStormCloud Nov 2012 #29
humbled_opinion Nov 2012 #23
Smilo Nov 2012 #24
rurallib Nov 2012 #25
maddiemom Nov 2012 #28
Warpy Nov 2012 #32
RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #34

Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 04:07 PM

1. People stop judging assistance when they're applying for it


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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 04:14 PM

2. Didn't that guy...

God, say something about "lest ye be judged" in his book?

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 04:17 PM

3. A good Rule of Thumb: There, but for the grace of God, go I.

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Response to libdem4life (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 05:22 PM

11. +10000 n/t

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Response to libdem4life (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 05:40 PM

13. Absolutely, .... words to live by!

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 04:21 PM

4. I'd hear something like that when I was a public school lunch cashier...Why is she wearing..

a gold necklace when she is on free lunch?

I'd say.."Which one of the gifts you've given to your granddaughter do you want her to hock?"
Then if they said something about grandparents giving money instead of jewelry or clothes
I'd remind the A-hole complaining that chances are the grandparents probably help out financially, when they can.



Tikki

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Response to Tikki (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 04:27 PM

8. Ha! I got that from a student! I looked at her and said, "Yes, I have jewelry. You know what I DON'T

have? YOU. I HAVE NO KIDS that cost money. I made that choice, so mind your own bees'-wax."

I could be brutal.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 04:23 PM

5. and Remember Goldman Sachs is making a killing speculating on food

 

and JP Morgan is making a killing taking a percentage of everyone's food stamp money for fees...

THAT is where people need to direct their anger.

Our food costs wouldn't be this high, and fewer people would need food stamps if they weren't purposely driving the cost of everything sky high with their Goldman Sachs Commodity Index that they introduced on the stock market for the purpose of ripping us off.

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Response to RepublicansRZombies (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:54 AM

33. Hear! Hear!

The 1% will squeeze every last drop they think they can get.

And Goldman Sucks is just PURE EVIL.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 04:24 PM

6. Kick&Recommended...

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 04:26 PM

7. In the 70's and 80' I grew up on welfare, food stamps, low income housing, medicaid...

at one time or another, so I would say we were on the poor side. My mom always said, we may be poor, but we don't have to look like it....and we didn't...

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Response to all american girl (Reply #7)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 04:32 PM

10. your mom is awesome!!

and she raised you well!!!

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 04:31 PM

9. HEAR, HEAR!

LOVE that gal

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 05:39 PM

12. HOPEFULLY

Obama will change the income disparity in this country.
It's real bad when military families have to use food stamps to feed themselves.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 05:43 PM

14. It wasn't that long ago when Right Wingers were OUTRAGED to hear about black people buying,...

$150 "sneakers".

They just ASSUME their tax money paid for them.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 07:05 PM

27. Yes I remember that

And that was the assumption.

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Response to gollygee (Reply #27)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:50 PM

30. Nothing lasts longer than Conservative hate....

....they still go on about "boat people".

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 05:44 PM

15. My daughter uses food stamps

because she is a foster mom. She is raising 3 kids that other losers couldn't raise themselves. Basically she is helping children, and she has gotten the "look" at the grocery store from people who judge without knowing what is going on.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 05:54 PM

16. Got in a discussion the other day..

on FB regarding this. Someone was complaining because they saw some folks buy some chips, candy and pop supposedly with their government card-and their tax dollars were paying for it, why couldn't these people buy nutritious food etc. I basically told them they should be more worried about corporate welfare. And of course they didn't like that, you can imagine how that went.
Irritates me that people are so nasty.

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Response to Lokey (Reply #16)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 06:19 PM

18. Every time I hear a story like this...

I generally answer the person telling it with, "At least that money is making a stop or two before it ends up in Switzerland."

I hope they get it, but I don't stop to explain.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 06:00 PM

17. I have to be careful myself.

I have been in their position, even though it was about thirty years ago.

I was behind a family in the grocery store. The cashier was having trouble getting their card (food stamps) to work. It was taking a long time. I think they were embarrassed.

I found myself standing there judging. God knows why. I am not usually like that. I reminded myself how lucky I am.

I am kind of ashamed to admit this.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 06:35 PM

19. i was on food stamps right after my divorce.

My income dropped to less than half of what I had made because I moved back to my home state. I still had my nice clothes and I needed to wear them, that's all I had except for jeans and that was not allowed in an office. I left work and had to buy some cookies because I was the Cub Scout leader and it was the night for the pack meeting. I got the "look" from another woman in the check out line. I wanted to scream at her. Here I was no child support, household income severely reduced, two growing boys who wanted to be in Cub Scouts. The other mothers just didn't have time even though some of them didn't work. I eventually got out of the public assistance program by moving to a different city for a better job, health insurance and a career ladder.

Hang in there, keep your head high. This to shall pass.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 06:39 PM

20. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!


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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 06:41 PM

21. We can use this when the anecdotes are paraded out

Sadly, there is always some DUer that needs to share their own personal "welfare queen" anecdotes.

Thank you for posting

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Response to etherealtruth (Reply #21)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 07:04 PM

26. Already in my e-mail to the local radio wingnut yak station. The dude has a daily anecdote

of the usual variety: "I saw a woman dressed to the nines with the best cuts of meat into the cart. I can only afford the cheap ones. She paid with food stamps. Then I saw her in the parking lot drving a (insert whatever luxury car brand here)."

Today's was a doozy. He said that YESTERDAY he personally saw a dude buy one package of gum with stamps and got back a hundred in change, then bought a second pack of gum for another hundred, and the radio dude took a picture with his phone and the dude and the cashier told him he can't do that and the radio dude said he could because it was a crime against public money.

The radio dude is a young dude who has said he is "poor," that he has "never lost my pride" by using public assistance, that "don't (food stamps recipients) have families to support them?"

Today he expanded into being against Unemployment Insurance but while it's still in effect to require drug testing for recipients on the grounds that they can't be in condition to work if they are on drugs and drug testing is in use for many jobs.

Funny how these wingnuts never focus on the "big time" robber barons like CHEENEE and corporate and military-industrial welfare.

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Response to UTUSN (Reply #26)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:48 AM

31. Why not just tell him he is full of shit, because there are no food "stamps" anymore

Your allotment is on a debit card, and how the hell would this jerk know it isn't a regular debit or credit card?

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 06:45 PM

22. I judge the foodstamps, not the user.

IMO no-one should have to be seen using food stamps. Even if it is a nice plastic card with the flag on it. I'd rather call it Living Allowance, and make it a direct deposit into a person's bank account (or card account that receives direct deposits).

And I guess Republicans have never heard of Freecycle. Some people do give away perfectly good working refrigerators.

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Response to mwooldri (Reply #22)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:00 PM

29. Sorry, but that is a bad idea.

The sad fact is that there is abuse of the various aid programs. The card slows that down. Direct cash handouts invite abuse. The use of cards for food aid greatly help prevent abuse and make sure the aid gets to where it goes. With computerized check-out scanners junk food (Chips, soda, etc.) can't be purchased.

Almost twenty years ago I was in Greenville, MS, overnight on the night that welfare checks arrived in the mail. Greenville had two riverboat casinos. I enjoy playing poker (low stakes) so I went to one of the casinos. I had been there before on previous trips and expected the usual very short line at the door. I was shocked to see the line stretching down the gangway and along the levee. They had a table set up at the door with a huge pile of cash and armed guards, cashing the welfare checks. I watched a bit, and saw very few cash the check and walk away. Since I didn't need to cash a check I was able to bypass the line. The place was crowded inside, with every slot machine seat taken and someone waiting behind for their turn to lose their money. Yes, I resented them taking the tax money that was supposed to help lift them from poverty and wasting it at a casino.

That was in 1995. I fully realize that those folks were likely only a small percentage of the people on welfare that were throwing their money away at a casino. But it did show to me that the system needed reform.

I AM NOT AGAINST FOOD AID PROGRAMS. Often they are used by families in temporary crises and help through some really bad times. Our granddaughter and her seven-month old baby are getting food aid now. She is 22, married early, had baby, was going to be a stay-at-home mom. Sorry-assed husband said he was tired of her and kicked her out. We are helping her out while she goes to a school to learn a skill. She lives with us rent-free. Her WIC and food stamps prevent her from being an unbearable financial burden on us. Once she learns a skill she will become independent and won't need food aid. Without the food aid she would likely be trapped in poverty. I would be an extreme hypocrite if I were against food-aid, or against other programs to help someone get out of a life of poverty. (She is trying to get government help to pay for the school.)

Her Mother married a 1%er, lives in a mansion, and refuses to help any at all.

But it is good that the programs are now structured to make abuse more difficult. Doing so helps keep the funds going to people whom it really helps.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 06:58 PM

23. I read this to a bagger at my job..

Now I am sick and furious, he actually said "What no child support? 2 jobs and child support and no way she qualifys for SNAP, oh and if she would have aborted that baby, which you support her right to do, than she would be just fine making enough in those 2 jobs to pay for herself, she is a taker."

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 06:58 PM

24. My Mum had a great saying......

Bought and paid for - washed and cared for - if you don't like it what do you stare for?

Raised poor with regard to material things - raised rich with the love of a great family

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 06:59 PM

25. I have always supported welfare, food stamps and unemployment insurance etc.

because someday i may need it, or my kids may need it or some other member of my extended family.
We actually pay very little to help out the less fortunate. And I see it as an investment in their future and the future of our country.

When you think long and hard about it, assistance along with good schools and training for adults only makes sense.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 07:21 PM

28. Calm down I've had 'foodstamps" and shopped and worked at Goodwill for some twenty years now.

I have a Masters degree and a lot of professional experience, in fact cost a lot to hire, but can do sub work any time. After twenty years, I'm more bemused than angry. I've done exactly as you have and agree it sucks. Time to reevaluate and know it won't be easy, but don't sink into depression.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:43 AM

32. In addition, most poor folks don't own that fridge,

the landlord does. That goes for AC if it's there. If you're poor, you can't afford to fill the fridge or turn on the AC, no matter how hot it is.

People might pay using food stamps and then load the food into a Lexus. That just means the fall has been really fast and the repo man hasn't found the car yet.

You won't get rich eating on food stamps. For one thing, the diet they afford is spartan, to say the least. For another, most people with kids find there's month left over with no money on the card, so they have to make use of the local food bank, rescue missions, and anywhere else they can feed themselves and the kids until the new money is deposited on midnight at the first of the month.

People getting food stamps need them. People who sneer at people getting food stamps are scum.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:04 PM

34. Why did they end 'Government Cheese' anyway? I use to help hand out these supplies at the Grange

 



The Government use to purchase surplus food at very low cost and just hand that out.

Food stamps put a lot of money in the pockets of grocery stores, Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan.

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